Oh dear, we've been vacuum shopping...

[spiraclean]

Nice one! Did you splash out on any of the optional tools to go with it, or will those be coming at a later date? Getting kitted out with the full kit and caboodle can be hard to resist!

That stuffed bag is pretty impressive, bit of a surprise considering the Panasonic isn't a half bad cleaner at all. As mentioned before I didn't get those results myself, but I feel that's more down to incompatibility with my carpet (which really seems to clean better with either a cylinder, or a low-to-moderate suction upright). The Sebo X is by no means short on suction, and has a nice stiff brush roller, so for the overwhelming majority of people it will do an excellent job. It's obviously working out nicely for you guys as proven by the picture, and it will be interesting to see how quickly the next bag fills and how long that takes to taper off to a normal level.

As for Kirby, while I like them, they are best suited to those who actually enjoy cleaning and have both the time and inclination to get stuck in. OK if you're prepared to go round the house once with the upright, then again with the hose setup for everything else, but not for those who prefer to switch back and forth between floor and above-floor cleaning before moving on to the next room. That's why so many used Kirbys of all ages often come with tool sets still in A1 condition with nothing missing... They rarely make it out of the cupboard.

 

[kirbymodel2c]

Hi Chris,

<span style="font-size: large; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">Hi Chris, I wasn't saying you was brain picking lol. I'd expect you to know more than the sale person. I'm talking about the public in general. Coming in wanting to know what's the best vac for pets, The weight and suction of something, How long it might last, Are spares available etc etc. Then once you've spent time answering all their questions  it's.... Ok "we'll think about it"

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<span style="font-size: large; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">Sometimes they come back sometimes they don't. So you don't know if your wasting your time or not with someone.</span>


 


<span style="font-size: large; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">One thing I don't tell the public is how to repair their vac. Why would I do myself out of money?? I'm a business not a charity

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<span style="font-size: large; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">Also if you did tell someone what to do esp over the phone and they do it wrong they blame you...."You told me to do it" So best to keep quite when asked lol.</span>


<span style="font-size: large; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">Mind you it makes you laugh when they phone you up and say...."My hoovers broke, What's wrong with it?" Let me just get my crystal ball.

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<span style="font-size: large; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">James

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[spiraclean]

James,

That does sound all too familiar I afraid. I used to work for a small independent chain, and while customers knew our service, delivery and after care was better, they would still insist they wanted to "think about it". Which meant buying it from Comet instead.

Wonder how that's working out for them now Comet have gone. Good luck with the non existent after sales service (which wasn't even all that great when it actually did still exist), I'm sure the twenty quid saving more than makes up for that.

 

[nycwriter]

Depends on the Kirby ...

As a New York City apartment dweller I never thought a "bulky, heavy" Kirby would be appropriate until I got my D80. It's actually smaller and lighter than my Fantom Thunder that I'd been using with no problem.

I can't speak to the Sentria since I've never used one in my space, though, but I'm assuming it has a wider brush roll then my D80, which would make it more tricky to maneuver through tight spaces.

 

[tolivac]

My Kirby tools don't get used that much-use one of my canisters instead-just use my Kirby for the WW carpet.I have used the tools on occasion just for the heck of it.Just have to be careful what I pick up.Since the motor and fan are turning faster with the hose-a quarter,pebble,could be a bad thing for the fan.Not an issue for canisters or the M1.

 

[alexhoovers94]

Get me a Hoover Turbopower!!!!
Non of this modern (cough, crap)

Please ignore the messy background!

 

[hi-loswitch98]

Is there still floor to vacuum in your house Alex?

 

[madabouthoovers]

AlexHoovers94 's house is gonna be featured on "Hoarding - Buried Alive" this year I believe - lol


 


(Buried alive by Hoover Turbopowers)!

 

[hi-loswitch98]

Haha Steve.

 

[alexhoovers94]

Currently not, no.
It is normally untidy but not this bad.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Alex - how come we don't hear much from you on VL these days?

 

[alexhoovers94]

College, work and cba, far to busy buying them!! LOL.
I have the yellow Turbo 2 on eBay now.

 

[madabouthoovers]

cba Alex? whats that?

 

[alexhoovers94]

It took everything for me to justify it!!
I have just bought a Panasonic MC-E43N, Electrolux Contour Z1410 and yet another Henry HVR200 and that U2602 and Turbopower Junior in the picture above.

 

[alexhoovers94]

Can't be arsed

 

[turbo500]

Alex, a few things you're forgetting.

- the Turbopower's haven't been on sale in 13 years
- the hose suction on them is crap
- even though they were good on carpet, they were hit and miss in the build quality, hence why there are so many U2194's and U2602's and virtually no 2336's.

Not everyone is an enthusiast for old appliances. My other half wouldn't have wanted some 25 year old upright with crap hose suction. He wanted a NEW vacuum.

 

[alexhoovers94]

And not everyone is enthusiastic about Sebos, which have a pathetic height adjustment that is awful and it constantly falls over when using the tools.
The Turbopowers hose suction is not THAT great but I wouldn't suggest the word crap.
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[sebo_fan]

No Alex, but at the same the Turbopowers that you grossly promote are PLASTIC. The classic uprights like the Hoover Junior and Senior get my vote.

Had I not been given my parents X1 Automatic I'd have been slow to buy into the SEBO name. Id have stuck with my Junior or Senior uprights.

Well done on the purchase, Chris. I knew you were going to buy a SEBO upright. Im not surprised at the amount of dirt the machine picked up. You should do up the old Panasonic and either keep it (as the current ones lack the beater bar stop function) or Ebay it.

I could never have a Kirby in my home. My home is large enough for it, but the hallways are too narrow and like Chris says, the amount of time spent taking the thing apart to convert it this way, that way is not for me. Fine if you're retired and have all the time in the world. Not for a 12 hour shift person like me though!

 

[hi-loswitch98]

Likewise I could not use a Kirby with all of the hard floors & short-pile carpets I have in my house!

 

[alexhoovers94]

Had I not been given my parents X1 Automatic I'd have been slow to buy into the SEBO name.

...oh deer, Such a tradgerdy if they hadn't.

 

[alexhoovers94]

Ryan

You and Chris are a right pair, it is like you bounce of each other (metaphorically speaking) when it comes to SEBO.

 

[sptyks]

SEBO is not for me

I would not be able to use a SEBO in my home. Because with my thick plush medium pile carpet, and the SEBO's ineffective auto height adjustment and barely average hose suction, it's just not for me.


Give me the powerful direct air suction, superior agitation and manual height adjustment of a Royal metal upright or a Kirby any day.

 

[turbo500]

Alex, I know that not everyone is as enthusiast about Sebo's, but in terms of modern machines, what else is there? In terms of deep cleaning, reliable and easy to use uprights, it's that or an S7.

As I've said a hundred times before, I've always found that this auto height adjustment works very well and the amount of dust and grit it has pulled out of my other half's carpets proves that. Based on your theory of the Sebo skimming the carpet, surely it wouldn't pick up much more than the Panasonic? And yet, it's half filled a bag. Go figure.

There's no hope for them, Ry. Even with the evidence plonked infront of them that the Sebo works well, they still argue it.

 

[alexhoovers94]

I can't be doing with modern vacuums they are just boring and tacky, I like the classic look. If I was getting any modern cleaner I would get a Miele S7 I think it is far supirior to the SEBO X-series urgh they are so bland.

 

[hi-loswitch98]

I can't believe really how a Panasonic Upright can miss so much? I guess the belt wasn't changed for a while maybe? Also I forgot to mention after I had cleaned the SEBO I gave it a test run around the house & it quarter filled the bag. I had never used an Upright that had done that before.

 

[alexhoovers94]

They are alright, but they don't stick to the floor very much, has a good brushroll but minimal agitation it skims the surface really due to that silly gimmick of a height adjustment.

 

[sptyks]

Are you guys familiar with the Riccar Radience? It's really a shame that they are not available in the UK, otherwise you guys would have a third choice for upright vacs. I know the Radience will outperform the S7. Not sure how it would do against the SEBO.


 

 

[alexhoovers94]

I must say though for todays standards the Sebo X-series has relatively poor suction.

 

[thekirbylover]

In terms of deep cleaning, reliable and easy to use

deep cleaning, good god chris, sebo's are okay but they dont deep clean at all, to be honest they dont really do ANYTHING, they are reliable being commercial and all, the only reason I ever use my x4 is because its comfortable to use however the tools are pretty much useless except the crevice tool, plus they literally ruin hard floors something that sebo say that they are designed for. Alex get out of the 90s with your bloody turbopowers, however I do agree that the suction on the x4 isnt really that good.

 

[alexhoovers94]

"Even with the evidence plonked infront of them that the Sebo works well, they still argue it."

Chris, I don't care if it is the best vacuum ever, the worst vacuum in the world or somewhere inbetween, I still HATE it.