numatic 580 watt single speed models

[Dysonabsolute]

Hi guys, just had my het200 out of the box for the second time. Still really impressed with the power from such a small output motor. Assuming the wessel werk floor head contributes to the performance and also I have noticed the hose is very thick at the entry of the machine but not wand end similar to some dc08 models.

Anyway I am sure you are all aware that this 580w model didn't stay around for long and that they went back go the original style hi lo switch. Doesn't anyone know why they did this or has anyone approached numatic.

Also what was your favourite motor setup on the numatic machines? I had the 1200w autosave before this hetty. I must say I prefer the single speed and that large power light looks pretty cool. ")

 

[turbo500]

They haven't exactly gone back to the hi-lo models. The newer Numatic's are 600w with a 2 speed motor - no autosave.


 


I much prefer the 580w models over the previous 1200w models too and that new floorhead makes the world of difference on carpet.

 

[Dysonabsolute]

Well it's a hi lo switch.

 

[marcusprit]

620w on the high so is it 310w on the low? That's about the same power as a hair dryer isn't it?

 

[Dysonabsolute]

Hairdryer lol. Doesn't anyone still use the paper bags in the numatic machines? Are they any better than the cloth ones.

 

[marcusprit]

The cloth bags are better. They filter better and allow more airflow.

 

[turbo500]

That's about the same power as a hair dryer isn't it

Still more powerful than a Hoover Junior and they cleaned perfectly well.

 

[marcusprit]

Oh yes i like Henrys but 620w seems a bit low for a cylinder cleaner they need a bit more power to pull through a long hose. Uprights are fine at around 700w.

I think you might see more cylinder cleaners come with PN in future when the EU limit goes down to 900w

 

[turbo500]

Marcus, I assure you, the 580w version had MORE than enough suction to clean well.

 

[marcusprit]

Oh ok i'm glad to hear it

 

[sebo_fan]

As the owner of the Eco-Henry with 580 watts, the suction is just as effective as the older 1200 watt ones. Numatic have no worries - their sealed suction AND sealed dust bags seem to keep the power going.

It makes no sense to me why more cylinders will come to the UK with powered brush rolls though. Fine if the hose and brush roll are jammed on permanently; that way the brush rolls would have to deal with hard floor cleaning as well - but I think that defeats the purpose of a cylinder vacuum in general.

The easiest way of seeing how it would work is if brands are afraid that their pick up tests will be finally investigated and results fairly shown. I can forsee that a 500 watt cylinder vac with a powerful brush roll would justify a good enough rating, but one forgets that it isn't just carpet performance that these vacuums must excel in.

 

[vacuumlover]

I defiantly prefer the 580W. The auto save seemed to me (no offense!) a bit of a daft idea. I can clean fine with 580W

 

[parwaz786]

Am. I the only one who loves the Autosense?

 

[turbo500]

Am. I the only one who loves the Autosense?

Autosense = Hoover
Autosave = Numatic

And yes. Both were utterly pointless features

 

[parwaz786]

Oops. Well spotted Chris lol. Yes I did mean Autosave, I like it though

 

[sebo_fan]

How can you like it, if you have never actually owned a Henry that has it? Or have you?

 

[parwaz786]

My Aunty has one and I have used it loads and loads of times when I visit etc so I know what they are like

 

[vacuumlover]

@parwaz786

Yes i think you're the only one who likes it lol

 

[sebo_fan]

Does she have the same kind of carpets and layout as your home?