Newly designed Sebo Felix synthetic bags ?

[oliveoiltinfoil]

I was waiting for someone to say that, that the more germs we kill and the more we protect ourselves from these allergy inducing pollens and dust, the weaker we become. I consider myself a very clean person, but I do not believe in these antibacterial sprays that some people use to spray down their worktop counters several times per day. I use just warm to hot water and bleach a couple of times per week and just some washing up liquid and a cloth daily, as did mg parents and touch wood, we have never contracted any horrible viruses and or any allergic reactions to dust or dust mites. This is not to say don't clean and live in squalor, but modern vacuum cleaners, and certainly sebos filtration is more than adequate for the average person health and wellbeing.

 

[marcusprit]

I was brought up exactly the same way as you olive oil but sadly I did develop allergies.So like I say there may be some truth to it but there are many other factors and a lot more research on the immune system is needed.

 

[sebo_fan]

A lot of the time though, a few "modern households" seldom wash the daily damp cloth that goes over worktops etc. That's when the breeding of bacteria and germs gets to go around the whole kitchen, which second to the toilet should be the most hygienic area in the home, in my opinion.

So very few actually put their cloths into the washing machine. Mine get thoroughly washed instead of paying out for new ones. Until they finally disintegrate, that's when they get turfed. I also have microfibre cloths as well as sponges - which can also be machine washed.

 

[marcusprit]

Oh yes i know Nar. Ewwwwww Ych a fi! I like those cloths to be washed regularly too.

Maybe i have OCD! Cleanliness is next to godliness as far as i'm concerned.

 

[turbo500]

Going off topic for a moment...


 


My mother was a disinfectant queen. Everything got cleaned with disinfectant - usually the pine scented stuff. And bleach in the bathroom. I haven't adopted the same habits. I tend to use just a generic kitchen spray (great for keeping kitchen grease at bay). The only thing I use disinfectant on are the bathroom, kitchen and utility room floors. The toilet gets scrubbed with toilet duck, flushed and then bleach poured down it and left for a few hours.

Factually, of course, bleach on its own isn't a very good cleaner. It's a great antibacterial agent, but not a great cleaner. It doesn't have any cleaning agents in it at all. So if you're using bleach, it's always better to wash the surface first with a spray cleaner or hot soapy water to remove the actual dirt and then bleach to kill bacteria.

 

[sebo_fan]

LOL my late father was the scientist in the home - but everything that was dirty had to be washed down with Dettol or Savlon. All in the days before sprays were ever invented with antibacterial agents.

My late gran, the cleaner thought of a wiser concept and thus my childhood was forever reminded to wash dirty areas down with good old Zoflora compared to horrid Dettol. I wasn't a fan of bleach either, but I preferred staying with my gran because Zoflora is definitely better than Dettol in terms of putting up with the smell.

When I worked in a coffee shop many years later i couldn't abide cleaning out the Taylor ice cream machine - bloody Milton fluid - again, the stench of bleach.

 

[marcusprit]

Steam cleaning is another option.

 

[turbomaster1984]

Some bleach facts

In the UK theres 2 kinds of bleach

Thin - this just disinfects
Thick - this cleans AND disinfects due to its soap and detergent ingredients.

Both bleaches are one of the safest chemicals to use around pets full stop.
Far safer than any anti bac, multipurpose or disinfectant.

Thick bleach when diluted correctly is the best one to use for cleaning floors, greasy cooker tops, toilets, drains and washing out greasy manky dishcloths between laundering.

Both bleaches are very safe to use in areas where pets live as once the cleaning solution is dry on the surface it leaves behind common salt.

No need to rinse.

Steam cleaning I've yet to be convinced. Never found it effective. Nor am I convinced of the hard floor washers. Those brushes harbour a load of nasty crap and spray water around skirting boards which end up in those being cleaned almost everytime I use the darn thing. Not to mention they don't cope with uneven floors and leave too much excess water in grout.

If you think a bucket of hot bleachy water is filthy then your not changing you water often enough. Thick bleach has dirt suspension ingredients so if your spreading the dirt back onto your floor you have used your water for far too long or not added enough bleach.

 

[sebo_fan]

I know bleach is an industry favourite... but

Bleach isn't for everyone though Chris, no matter what kinds there are.

Bleach and Jeyes Liquid (the outdoor equivalent) can often induce coughs and/or sneezing, even breathing difficulties from some buyers. It isn't safe on skin either.

Im a fan of steam mops on non porous SEALED floors. I agree that steam washer uprights with brushes are no good.

Steam mops are no probs on lino and no probs on tile either, though it has to be sealed to get the best out of it. No brushes to get dirty and the mop heads just gets chucked into the washing machine without conditioner otherwise the microfibres get ruined.

Having worked in a kennel when I was a teenager (another one of those school "work experience" things) we only bleached kennels, blankets etc once a week. It has to dry before dogs are allowed back in, as it is harmful on their skin.

A better alternative is good old fashioned clear water vinegar. It has a lot of great uses and has a surprisingly low scent, even when use with hot mops/cloths - compared to bleach.

 

[marcusprit]

I quite like my Vax steam cleaner you can use detergent with it if you want to

 

[marcusprit]

We have used white vinegar its very useful around the home.

 

[marks_here]

Kim & Aggie would be so proud of you guys!!!

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

I wash my microfiber cloths in the washing machine at 90. As hot as possible so it properly cleans it. Put it this way, to this date (touch wood) we have had no problems with illnesses in my household. Bleach is relatively natural, especially compared to anti bacterial sprays and things, not to mention being far cheaper. Quite often in life, the simple things work the best.

I have a Vax deluxe hardfloor washer and I always use hot water with a dash of bleach. My mother has the same thing but she uses flash detergent which I don't think is as good but she uses it as it makes the floors smell of lemon afterwards ahaha!

If we can get back to bags, I contacted sebo about them because I am that sad and have that much time on my hands or did at that particular point, and they said the bags are made of a new type of cloth which is more durable but more efficient and easier for the air to pass through. All good stuff.

I got a sebo stairs and pet or whatever you call it turbo tool from john lewis a couple of days ago from john lewis for £30. As far as "traditional" turbo tools god, I think the sebo one is the best. Don't know who they are made by, they look very similar to the miele ones. The are well made and decent quality unlike some cheaper ones which last a few months before either falling apart or seizing up! Excellent on the car. Proper grooms the pile of the carpet!

 

[marcusprit]

My favourite turbo brush is the Dyson tangle free

 

[sebo_fan]

SEBO and Miele tools are mostly supplied by Wessel Werk, including the turbo brush you speak of, Oli.

I had a Vax S2S whatever the hell it was called. Not for me. Far too heavy, far too cumbersome and the double tank idea was good in theory - neither tank came out properly without the use of a butter knife to edge it up and off. With the floor head crabbing along, I was never in much control of it, painful hand trigger to release the steam and all the while, soaking floors that took an age to dry.

Much prefer the cheaper Hometek mops and more recently the Morphy Richards "basic" steam mop. So much easier, so much lighter and does without the nonsense of anything complicated.

As for using detergent, I don't normally. But then it doesn't take much to spray cleaning liquid along a floor and then get the mop to soak it up.

 

[marcusprit]

Morphy Richards is a nice steam mop. The one you can release the little scrubbing brush which can be used to get into tight corners.

 

[sebo_fan]

Oli - there is no need to use 90C on cloths - infact hospitals use 40C for their washing - as long as the water is warm and there is detergent added (but not fabric conditioner for microfibre as it destroys the fabric and texture) they can get clean enough.

 

[turbo500]

Depends on the detergent. 40 degrees with liquid is just wrong.

I prefer hotter washes for things like bedsheets, towels and cloths. I absolutely can see a clear difference between washing a set of bedding on 40 and a set on 60.

 

[sebo_fan]

I seldom use a 60C wash, most of the clothing I own has to washed with a lower temp any way although bed linen, towels etc, again 40C is enough for me. I have seen no difference.

However, when I lived in London many years ago, the amount of detergent I went through was ridiculous and a lot of the washing had to be done at a higher temperature.

Infact when I think about it, every "wet" appliance had to be descaled every month! Back in the days of being a student, we didn't have "concealed" element kettles either. I do miss the traditional old fashioned stainless steel kettles though - they seemed to keep boiled water hotter for longer without having to re-boil again.

 

[madaboutsebo]

Good to see the updated and improved synthetic bags for the Felix are even better. Look forward to buying some and trying them out sees at the difference is against the first version of them!

I have to say the Felix Eco I tried in John Lewis with the Eco 700 watt motor was impressive. The demo Guy did put it on full power when I tested it on carpet was great. Least there is less heat from the machine now. Meant to check if it had the new updated synthetic bag in it!