New Vacuum Cleaner...

[hi-loswitch98]

Yes I am using it bagged because the bagless container is a faff to empty/clean. If you do want one, go for a bagged model because its cleaner, far healthier & you can fill the bags until they are like a brick.

 

[madabouthoovers]

I was just wondering if you still had it, as you were on about getting rid of it in earlier posts. I would imagine its much better with bags, as you are not forever emptying them. I can go weeks on end with bagged vacs without even having to look at the bag. So much more convenient - even if they do start to smell a bit after a while. The fabric bags are so much better than the old single layer paper bags of old - they never seem to lose suction.

 

[hi-loswitch98]

I do want to get rid of it, there are a few design faults that I'm not liking.

There is no bumper around the machine to protect it from bashing into corners.

It is a heavy machine & is hefty to drag around, hence why they put the trolley system on, except you can't use the trolley system because the hose is too short & the the floor tool sticks to the floor.

Because you have to put the machine in front of you to use the Trolley System, on hard floors dust gets blown around.

The Turbo Nozzle is cheap & rattly & the Parquet Nozzle Brushes get stuck in the grouting of the hard floors.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Wow, that's quite a review. I thought it would be a good idea to ask you again about this vac after you'd used it for a couple of months. I haven't had a look at the Hotpoint website lately so not sure if they have bags for these in stock now. Based on your findings, I think I'll pass on the idea of getting one of these - even though they come up on Ebay at really cheap prices. How did you find the remote control worked - did it always respond regardless of the position of the handle to the cleaner?

 

[hi-loswitch98]

Well it takes a few presses to turn on & off & to adjust the suction power. It's infra-red so you need to position it near the cleaner with nothing obstructing it.

 

[madabouthoovers]

And to quote the old Argos question - would you recommend this cleaner to a friend?

 

[hi-loswitch98]

Unless you are extremely careful with a Vacuum Cleaner, which I'm not

 

[hal2000]

Hi,

I purchased my SL C22 AA0 UK about 9 months ago. At the beginning the vacuum was working perfect. Unfortunately over the time, its performance dropped substantially.

1. Loss of suction. Even if I install freshly washed filters, they clog up so quickly that vacuum goes into safe mode during first use. I believe that somewhere is a valve which switch when certain pressure is reached. Does anyone know where this valve is and how to modify it?

2. I can't find anywhere pre motor hepa filter replacement. Everywhere I go only back end filters are supplied.

3. Pipe length regulator doesn't work. You can't lock the pipe at desired length, it became loose. I used a tape to prevent it moving.

Is there anyone who could help with the above questions?

Thanks

 

[turbo500]

1. Loss of suction

I won't be much help on this one I'm afraid, but I think suction loss is simply the curse of the low-efficiency cyclones. Unless advertised as multi-cyclonic/no loss of suction, almost all bagless vacuums will have this set up with the filter in the bin, coming into direct contact with the dust and dirt. These require cleaning after each use. It's a flaw of the design, I'm afraid.

 

[hal2000]

Washing filters doesn't do much of the difference. Vacuum goes back into safe mode during first use. After short time of using you can hear click and some whistle kind of noise coming form the cleaner. Is sounds like some sort of flap opens and lets extra air through. I am pretty sure that the safety feature which switches vacuum working mode is too sensitive.

If I knew how this feature looks like and where it is located I could play with it.

 

[turbo500]

If the suction release value keeps popping after the filters have been cleaned, the cleaner could be blocked somewhere else.

 

[sebo_fan]

I owned the SL C20 AA0 UK bagless Trolley for a point but then sold it to a friend months ago. He seems to get good power from it even though I explained the filter system, fully.

I dont know about the C22 model but mine came with twin HEPA filters, one inside the bin at the back that covers the secondary felt black filter that also has to be washed. ALL the filters have to be bone dry, including the main exhaust at the back of the vacuum.

If the suction pipe isn't working, good luck on getting a replacement. I found Hotpoint UK to be most unhelpful when it came to sourcing other parts for my vacuum and eventually they sent out a new floor tool several months later.

The good news is that the pipe and floor tools are friction fit 35mm sized fitting - so any Bosch suction tube available will fit the Hotpoint as a replacement. Miele tubes are also 35mm but they won't fit to the floor tool or Hotpoint's other tools properly because they require a lock switch on the fittings and being rubber cuffed makes the Hotpoint tools and handle to slide around and can't be properly tightened.

From what I can remember the suction valve is inside by the bin lid.

 

[hi-loswitch98]

Sorry to hear about your troubles with your Hotpoint Hal2000, mine was the Dual Clean model but I mostly used it bagged because of the mess involved with the dust container. Apart from cleaning everything thoroughly there isn't really much else that will help.

I also found Hotpoint's UK service useless, I was kept on hold for ages until I managed to speak to someone & they never reply to emails.

I haven't used my cleaner in months, but when I do I prefer it bagged because it's easier that way as you don't have to empty the container, wash filters etc. That's why I went for the dual model.

Also, are these cleaners still on sale with the EU legislation in place?

 

[sebo_fan]

The newer models with lower wattage motors are on the market but they were late to arrive after September 2014. Hotpoint offered a newer model to the one I had but because of the way they took far to long to respond to my problem, I just didn't bother. Even when asking about their bagged vacuums seemed to cause a major delay.

However, they are now listing user manuals on site with a catch - you have to supply your email address and the system site will automatically generate an email with an attachment of the electronic user manual. That's handy - However, Hotpoint also sent me ANOTHER email with another ruddy user manual attachment.

 

[hi-loswitch98]

Thanks for that.

I don't think they've taken off very well. But Hoptoint have been really slow even when calling them up about bags/filters/spares etc. They were good vacuums with the high wattages, I wonder what these new lower wattage models are like?

 

[sebo_fan]

I can't imagine they will be any different other than being quieter than the last ones. But that's one plus point regarding the Hotpoint models - my 2200 watt motor was quiet and easy to use at all hours..