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The best feature of that model is the handle remote. Not enough cylinder vacs come with it IMO, and Miele should be doing better on this score - their vacs seem to be getting more basic and no frills compared to what the used to produce - ie the Revolution with full handle remote. Now there is very little in the range with a handle remote.


Even Samsung have managed to put remote handle controls on their latest cylinders - albeit crap ones that don't have many settings.


The remote handle is something I find very useful on the Sebo K3 I recently bought. I only wish all but the cheapest cylinder models came with them.


 


Remember also that the cassette is only a single cyclone, so will require the pre motor filter to be washed more often, so check it often!


Does it have an airflow restriction light?


The rear filter design reminds me of the Vax Power 6 I have, which wasn't designed to be stood on its back end.
 
Steve - I agree with you there about the Remote Control, it's sooooooo handy! If I need extra suction, or to turn it down, the controls right there in my hand. And it has 5 settings too which does help.

Oh & by the way, despite the fact that the Dust Box is only Single Cyclone, due to the sheer amount of suction power the machine produces, only very fine dust is let through the filter, in fact in the bin itself you see all of the little dust particles as they have been separated. In fact there are two filters, one a foam filter which protects the Pure Clean HEPA 13 Filter. On bagless models there are two but they are all washable. I have found with Daily use they have only needed tapping on the side of the bin & they're good to go.

Yes, it does have an air restriction light, it glows bright red if you put your hand over the end of the hose & an air valve opens up.

Sebo_Fan, they are Synthetic Bags.

I might have to put up a demo video tomorrow on Youtube.
 
HiLo - Any chance you could measure the length of the hose? Am wondering about how much hose you get on the TOL model.


For example, Sebo give you 2.1m, Numatic Henry gives you 2.4m etc


 


Also, its gone back up again on Hotpoint website, and also out of stock - its possible you bought the only one they had!


 


 

[this post was last edited: 3/17/2014-23:55]

http://shop.hotpoint.co.uk/sda/trolley-dual-clean-cylinder/p/F082706
 
Out of stock

With a 2200 watt motor and new laws coming into force in a few months time, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the last we will see of these cleaners before a lower wattage motor is fitted.

Frankly, I am amazed that such a new range of cleaners as been developed and put on sale with such a high wattage motor so soon to the changes which lie ahead. It's not like the new laws have been kept secret, so Hotpoint must have known.
 
Don't the laws only apply to vacuum cleaners produced in the EU? or does it apply to those sold in the EU. I think they can carry on producing old models for as long as they want with the high power motors, but cant produce any NEW models with anything higher than a 1600W motor. Its a bit of a grey area and I'm still not exactly sure how it will work, as there are still so many models still for sale over 1600W.


I know one thing - I cant find the bags for these hotpoint cleaners anywhere - nowhere sells them. I downloaded the manual for this vac and it has no bag specs or anything. I suspect you have to phone Hotpoint and pay a fortune for them - if they actually have any in stock that is.

[this post was last edited: 3/18/2014-05:14]
 
I have to disagree with the AEG/Electrolux vacs being well built. In my opinion they are among the worst out there. Very think plastic, rough edges, squeaks and just poorly finished and quite expensive for what they are, mind you I have only had two models - AEG nimble and the AEG upright with self cleaning brushroll ? Cant remember what it's called. Only had it one day then sent it back ahah.

As regards the ABS plastic bit, that can be a con, especially for Chinese made products. What they do is name the company/supplier of the plastic "ABS" so they can stamp that on the components. Quite often its just a very cheap material.
 
Yes Steve - I realise the mistake. I was going on what Sebo_Fan had said earlier in the thread about them being produced in Poland.
 
Hilo - that link for the bags only links to the Qualtex homepage, so not a lot to see there. Qualtex is a trade organisation that only deals with traders, not the public, so I cant get into the catalogue. How did you convince them you were a trader? What is the bag code on the bags that they reckon will fit, so I can google it to see who retails them.


It would help other potential buyers of these mysterious vacs if we actually knew where to buy the bags.


Thanks for measuring the hose - they don't specify hose length, or bag type in the specs.
 
Yes they are pretty skimpy(?) in details of the machine itself.

The bags code is HPTC00298811, but I'm not sure how far you'd get with the code. If you're wandering how I have an account, my dad is a registered member so anything off there I want he orders it, obviously I pay but sometimes you do get some real bargains like filters cut to fit the machine at 26p each are a steal!

Your welcome about the hose, it seems longer than that though.
 
I was trawling everywhere I could think of trying to find a bag for your machine - the closest I got was a Nilfilsk Bravo bag, but without knowing the dimensions of the bags, its hard to be sure - they look the same, but the bag collar could be a different size.


The bag code you give returns no results - so again, back to square one.


 


Why cant these manufacturers realise that if people feel that they cant get the parts or consumables for these machines, then they are hardly likely to buy them are they. I would have reasonably thought the Hotpoint could have had the bags for these machines on their shop website - but they don't, so it makes me wary. They didn't specify hose length as 1.5 M is the standard length for canister machines - most budget cylinders have a hose this length - which is why the Henry is such good value for its 2.4 m hose.


 


Had they advertised the bags for this machine, and it had still been £75, I'd have probably bought one, but now I will wait and see how things pan out, and if the aftermarket like "buydustbags.co.uk" ever get a substitute bag for this range, as postage is free on there if you spend over £10. I've used them many times and they always deliver - they are part of "Buyspares" but postage is cheaper/free, unlike Buyspares itself.



http://www.buydustbags.co.uk/
 
Thanks for the offer Hilo - but its the bag dilemma that's putting me off. WHats the model number of your swan petmaster, so I can check out bags for this on the above site?


Can you believe that obtaining bags for your vac is so difficult?


Hotpoint have no stocks of your model anyhow.
 
Are you sure? I just added another to my basket now & it said it was out of stock.

To be honest I prefer using mine bagless, obviously a bag comes in handy but it's quite cool seeing the amount of dirt it sucks up.

Sorry...I've forgotten the model number as I sent it back. I think you should be able to find them under 'Swan Petmaster' though.

I was onto Hotpoint for ages about bags but they never replied.
 

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