Looks like I would have to call their phone# to see if a dealer is still around.I bought mine something like 15 or more years ago.Also bet the price is up there in space.But it is a good vacuum.Think the bags should be updated to Filtrete style bags and maybe the top enclosed for allergy folks.
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cleanairhybrid
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Allergy Bags
Hi Rex,
Sorry about that, my mistake on your location. The same Phone number, toll free should work from your location.
We do sell units via shipping or direct to home in person. Either way can be arranged depending on how far the distributor is from you.
There is actually a choice of two different bag styles, the open top 'tri star' bag we call them Stormy bags or the Patriot Hybrid Allergy bag - just as you mentioned, for allergy sufferers that want a sealed disposal without dumping dust and stuff everywhere.
Pricing is flexible, depending on the packages chosen and options - such as Mini Wessel for Upholstery and Car interiors or air turbine brushes for soft floors. I literally have a spare parts catalogue that comes in two pages.
If you need a 15 foot electrified hose, stretchy 20 foot retractable hose, and a menagerie of tools for cleaning just about anything.
http://www.air-lion.com
Hi Rex,
Sorry about that, my mistake on your location. The same Phone number, toll free should work from your location.
We do sell units via shipping or direct to home in person. Either way can be arranged depending on how far the distributor is from you.
There is actually a choice of two different bag styles, the open top 'tri star' bag we call them Stormy bags or the Patriot Hybrid Allergy bag - just as you mentioned, for allergy sufferers that want a sealed disposal without dumping dust and stuff everywhere.
Pricing is flexible, depending on the packages chosen and options - such as Mini Wessel for Upholstery and Car interiors or air turbine brushes for soft floors. I literally have a spare parts catalogue that comes in two pages.
If you need a 15 foot electrified hose, stretchy 20 foot retractable hose, and a menagerie of tools for cleaning just about anything.
http://www.air-lion.com
blackheart
Well-known member
Bags
Hello Kyle,
Rex is referring to like a hepa style bag often made of polypropylene and cloth like in feel. While the allergy bags provide a closed top they are still a paper bag. We collectors tend to be very finicky about our bags. They sent me a sample of these bags a while back and while it was alright I've much preferred using vacuum America clean branded hepa TriStar bags yes I know the bag collar isn't the right shape but they do work, retain airflow better, and keep my cloth bag cleaner. Schottler should really look into getting genuine hepa bags made. A machine in this price point should definitely have them.
Hello Kyle,
Rex is referring to like a hepa style bag often made of polypropylene and cloth like in feel. While the allergy bags provide a closed top they are still a paper bag. We collectors tend to be very finicky about our bags. They sent me a sample of these bags a while back and while it was alright I've much preferred using vacuum America clean branded hepa TriStar bags yes I know the bag collar isn't the right shape but they do work, retain airflow better, and keep my cloth bag cleaner. Schottler should really look into getting genuine hepa bags made. A machine in this price point should definitely have them.
Here goes----I ordered a Patriot from the factory in California.The machine is currently being shipped to me.Good to know about the closed top bags.I still think they need to go to the spun weave cloth HEPA bags as everyone else has gone to.The paper bags are now obselete.Anxious to try this machine and see how different this is to my old one.And it was sold to me at half price.And plan to use my Volt powernozzle with it.Guess the Raleigh place is no more-the factory said there wasn't a place in NC that sells Patriot vacuums anymore.
cleanairhybrid
Member
New Bags
Hi Rex and Devin,
I'm so glad the factory could help you out! We really do exist, honest.
I understand now what you both are looking for, and have suggested it.
It is the next generation of the true HEPA bags that are cloth not paper.
Schoettler is always innovating, so if I get something like that in inventory I'll post about it.
I'm glad you got the current promotion, they are priced to move and I think it's a fair deal for the machine.
I kinda like the color myself, and the way the design is set up.
Did you get a machine with the display or just the mechanical one without digital display?
Kyle
Hi Rex and Devin,
I'm so glad the factory could help you out! We really do exist, honest.
I understand now what you both are looking for, and have suggested it.
It is the next generation of the true HEPA bags that are cloth not paper.
Schoettler is always innovating, so if I get something like that in inventory I'll post about it.
I'm glad you got the current promotion, they are priced to move and I think it's a fair deal for the machine.
I kinda like the color myself, and the way the design is set up.
Did you get a machine with the display or just the mechanical one without digital display?
Kyle
Don't have the vacuum yet,on its way Long way from Calif to NC via surface!They said it was the "current" version.What does the display show?I beleive the color of mine will be purple-like purple as well!Now if only Kirby would come out with a purple machine!
Bags
The bags the ones pictured above are good. I have one last bag I got from the original owner who sold it to me. Its performance is much better with those bags. I don't know but it's not a little power difference it's a big difference. I did completely unclog the wands but the envirocare bags and the VAC HEPA put in the machine wasn't running the vacuum to the level of performance the Patriot bags.
Les
The bags the ones pictured above are good. I have one last bag I got from the original owner who sold it to me. Its performance is much better with those bags. I don't know but it's not a little power difference it's a big difference. I did completely unclog the wands but the envirocare bags and the VAC HEPA put in the machine wasn't running the vacuum to the level of performance the Patriot bags.
Les
cleanairhybrid
Member
New Machine
Hi Les and Rex,
Yes, the closed top bags do provide better air flow than the standard bags. I don't have a number to exactly give, but I noticed the difference as well.
So the Unit will have either a metal service plate faceing upwards with the Patriot logo on it on a machine without the display or will have like a touch screen 'iPhone' sort of screen.
To answer your question, what does it do, several things.
In Service mode - Essentially checking filter performance is the biggest feature, showing reduced air flow and and over time it will tell you which filter to replace.
In Hybrid mode - It also has a 5, 10, 15 minute timer for when it's operating as an air purifier. So you don't have to leave it on and shut it off.
Standby Mode - In the standby mode you can pause the machine via the touch screen rather than the foot activated on off switch like manual units.
In normal operation it also has an air meter showing operating time and animations showing air flow.
Kyle
Hi Les and Rex,
Yes, the closed top bags do provide better air flow than the standard bags. I don't have a number to exactly give, but I noticed the difference as well.
So the Unit will have either a metal service plate faceing upwards with the Patriot logo on it on a machine without the display or will have like a touch screen 'iPhone' sort of screen.
To answer your question, what does it do, several things.
In Service mode - Essentially checking filter performance is the biggest feature, showing reduced air flow and and over time it will tell you which filter to replace.
In Hybrid mode - It also has a 5, 10, 15 minute timer for when it's operating as an air purifier. So you don't have to leave it on and shut it off.
Standby Mode - In the standby mode you can pause the machine via the touch screen rather than the foot activated on off switch like manual units.
In normal operation it also has an air meter showing operating time and animations showing air flow.
Kyle
cleanairhybrid
Member
Different Mode
This should be the image for the Hybrid and Standby modes
Kyle
This should be the image for the Hybrid and Standby modes
Kyle
luxlife
Well-known member
Actual photo of the machine.
Could you please upload a pic if you can. I’m dying to see the touch panel on the machine.
Could you please upload a pic if you can. I’m dying to see the touch panel on the machine.
I am waiting for the vacuum to arrive.No word from Patriot co as to when its supposed to arrive.Ordered last week.Keep in mind has to go from the factory in Calif to NC-cross country-by surface shipping figure at least a week?The Viper central vacuum I ordered is supposed to come today(Monday).Hadnen't gotten any new vacs for awhile.
cleanairhybrid
Member
Patriot Digital Display
Ho John,
I hope this helps, this is the display in normal operation mode with the air meter counter in the top right.
You can see the Green Hybrid Mode touch button, and the blue stand bye touch button, as well as the display will show an animation while using instead of the still image. I just don't have a link to a video of it in operation.
The Arc Engine shows a blue band when the unit is running, as it is in this still image.
Kyle
Ho John,
I hope this helps, this is the display in normal operation mode with the air meter counter in the top right.
You can see the Green Hybrid Mode touch button, and the blue stand bye touch button, as well as the display will show an animation while using instead of the still image. I just don't have a link to a video of it in operation.
The Arc Engine shows a blue band when the unit is running, as it is in this still image.
Kyle
luxlife
Well-known member
Looks very interesting!
Schoettler did a good job of integrating the lcd onto the machine. It looks just like it was made to be there and not like an afterthought.
Schoettler did a good job of integrating the lcd onto the machine. It looks just like it was made to be there and not like an afterthought.
Waiting for my Patriot to arrive.....So want to try this machine-sounds like as much fun as the Viper!
cleanairhybrid
Member
Fun Durability
Hi everyone,
John - I like the placement of it for a lot of reason. It's out of the way, not gimmicky, and durable.
They have a fun way of making the Patriot 'evolve' and I enjoy the design and modifications.
Rex, I can't wait for you to get your machine. Shipping is usually 5 - 10 business days and average 7 - usually. I hope you enjoy it!
I also uploaded a picture of the one page add we have for the display models. You can see where it is on the machine zoomed out rather than the closeup up above. Keep in mind this is the P3 and your P4 will be Purple instead of Blue.
Kyle
Hi everyone,
John - I like the placement of it for a lot of reason. It's out of the way, not gimmicky, and durable.
They have a fun way of making the Patriot 'evolve' and I enjoy the design and modifications.
Rex, I can't wait for you to get your machine. Shipping is usually 5 - 10 business days and average 7 - usually. I hope you enjoy it!
I also uploaded a picture of the one page add we have for the display models. You can see where it is on the machine zoomed out rather than the closeup up above. Keep in mind this is the P3 and your P4 will be Purple instead of Blue.
Kyle
Is the readout screen needed to use the Patriot as a vacuum cleaner-I don't normally use vacuums as air purifiers since I have machines made for this-and they have UVC bulbs to destroy bacteria,spores,and virus.Covid ones included.And air purifiers can move more CFM than vacuums-but of course no "suction" as a vacuum has for cleaning.And their air intakes and discharges larger than on a vacuum.
cleanairhybrid
Member
Non Display P4
Hi Rex,
On Display Units, when you turn the machine on - the display will come on - it
monitors filter efficiency and the air meter will count down showing the filter animation. It doesn't matter if the Medic-Air front purifier is on the machine in purifier mode or the hose in vacuum cleaner mode.
I use the timer on the green touch button to set count downs if I only have a certain amount of time like 10 minutes to get stuff done. One of my female customers turns the timer on because she says her kids have to clean for 15 minutes.
The machines without the display just have a metal service plate. Attached.
Kyle
Hi Rex,
On Display Units, when you turn the machine on - the display will come on - it
monitors filter efficiency and the air meter will count down showing the filter animation. It doesn't matter if the Medic-Air front purifier is on the machine in purifier mode or the hose in vacuum cleaner mode.
I use the timer on the green touch button to set count downs if I only have a certain amount of time like 10 minutes to get stuff done. One of my female customers turns the timer on because she says her kids have to clean for 15 minutes.
The machines without the display just have a metal service plate. Attached.
Kyle
My Patriot vacuum-Purple Heart Edition has the metal cover-no display.The vacuum arrived yesterday afternoon.Its a lovely deep purple-now if only Kirby would make one of theirs to match!!!As on another post on vacuum hand tools my Patriot came with FULL SIZE high quality tools with METAL locking connectors.This is one TOUGH vacuum!!!!Beginning tries like this machine.Its as much fun as the central vacs.Came with an adjustable floor height Wessl Werk powernozzle that has LED headlights.Haven't tried it yet.The vacuum came with another set of plastic wands to use with the hard floor tool.And of course the GIANT HEPA exhaust filter.--and several packs of Stormy bags!!!The Pony Express finally came thru from California!!And to put it-this vacuum is QUIET and VERY powerful!!!Possibly the BEST DTD canister you are going to find.Would have liked to see the demo and "proof" book!
panasonicvac
Well-known member
Glad to hear your first impressions about your new Patriot. I heard from another collector that it's the best canister with airflow that he's ever measured. So did you actually get to choose whatever color you wanted? Or is it just purple now that they sell today?
Anyways since this thread is about the Patriot, just thought that I wanted to show on what really got my attention about the Patriot. Even though it's an older video.
Anyways since this thread is about the Patriot, just thought that I wanted to show on what really got my attention about the Patriot. Even though it's an older video.
panasonicvac
Well-known member
Well, I guess I just answered my own question as I've just noticed on their Facebook page that the current Patriot is in fact purple. Not a bad look, I liked the color of the green ones the best.
cleanairhybrid
Member
Great Feedback
Hi Rex,
Congratulations on getting your new machine (non display).
They really are well built! I will pass the feedback on to our head office in California!
Alex, yes, all units in this P4 series will be purple. Until we change models in 3-5 years. It's really SREC's discretion.
Yes, that video is still valid and our head office is continually testing new models and updating their results.
Yes, we are 120 CFM, continuously! The highest of any canister vac made!
At that level of air flow we can keep the filtration near 100%.
Kyle
Hi Rex,
Congratulations on getting your new machine (non display).
They really are well built! I will pass the feedback on to our head office in California!
Alex, yes, all units in this P4 series will be purple. Until we change models in 3-5 years. It's really SREC's discretion.
Yes, that video is still valid and our head office is continually testing new models and updating their results.
Yes, we are 120 CFM, continuously! The highest of any canister vac made!
At that level of air flow we can keep the filtration near 100%.
Kyle
luxlife
Well-known member
It's probably time for SRES to make a new video.........
None of the models in the video are current anymore and a few of those manufacturers have since improved on what they do make.
None of the models in the video are current anymore and a few of those manufacturers have since improved on what they do make.
blackheart
Well-known member
Highest airflow
Hey Alex, there was a time at which the P3 did hold the record for a standard canister (excluding backpacks) with a tested hose airflow of about 116 CFM, since then I have found two machines which surpass that at about 122 and 126.
Certainly not trying to detract from it 116 (with an unknown filter condition) is very impressive and surpasses all but two designs I've tested thus far.
Hey Alex, there was a time at which the P3 did hold the record for a standard canister (excluding backpacks) with a tested hose airflow of about 116 CFM, since then I have found two machines which surpass that at about 122 and 126.
Certainly not trying to detract from it 116 (with an unknown filter condition) is very impressive and surpasses all but two designs I've tested thus far.
cleanairhybrid
Member
Other MOdels
Hi Devin,
Can you tell me what those other models are that are 122 and 126 CFM for canisters?
K
Hi Devin,
Can you tell me what those other models are that are 122 and 126 CFM for canisters?
K
That big filter on the blower port is not restrictive?
blackheart
Well-known member
Yup
The Perfect C101, which has seemingly been discontinued measured around 122
and the Kenmore Elite canister with the inducer motor measured in at about 126
There was also the NSS M-1 Pig which measured in around 117 cfm but I don't really think of that as a standard canister due to it's massive size.
The Perfect C101, which has seemingly been discontinued measured around 122
and the Kenmore Elite canister with the inducer motor measured in at about 126
There was also the NSS M-1 Pig which measured in around 117 cfm but I don't really think of that as a standard canister due to it's massive size.
I ordered the Allergen bags for my Patriot-and these are an IMPROVEMENT over the standard Stormy bags.Were getting there!!Its hard to pick a favorite-the Patriot is on my favorites list!!Superb machine!!!!What kind of motors do these vacuums use-its very powerful for its size!!!!Almost like a central vac!And the Allergen bags came within 3 Days!!!And by Priority Mail!!!Schottler Reasearch-sounds like a good company and product!!Very well made high quality vacuum!Would recommend this one!Tools are first class-the WW powernozzle works well and has adjustable floor height.Also this vacuum works superb with the Volt powernozzle!
blackheart
Well-known member
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durango159
Well-known member
A model with the Wessel Werk EBK 340 or EBK360 power nozzle sounds exciting. Both of those offer very strong agitation and headlights.
I would not be able to purchase a model if it came with the Sebo ET-1 power nozzle as pictured. I've tried a few various brush rolls as Sebo offers bristles of varying stiffness. Sadly they all perform terribly. The agitator removal system for easy cleaning of the brush roll is great and they are made well with reliable parts. If only they made them with a stronger motor to agitate better.
I would not be able to purchase a model if it came with the Sebo ET-1 power nozzle as pictured. I've tried a few various brush rolls as Sebo offers bristles of varying stiffness. Sadly they all perform terribly. The agitator removal system for easy cleaning of the brush roll is great and they are made well with reliable parts. If only they made them with a stronger motor to agitate better.
Blackheart
Is this the perfect motor or the Patriot motor.
If you take off the front butt plug you're going to get at least 2-7 more cfms.
I'm not sure if the company founder is alive or one of his two children are running it. He went from IEC to tristar to REC. Where he went great machines are always produced. Tristan MG series is a joke.
Les
Is this the perfect motor or the Patriot motor.
If you take off the front butt plug you're going to get at least 2-7 more cfms.
I'm not sure if the company founder is alive or one of his two children are running it. He went from IEC to tristar to REC. Where he went great machines are always produced. Tristan MG series is a joke.
Les
