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The C2 Complete (S5) is 6kg and the C3 Complete (S8) is 5.4kg. Not sure what the Sebo E series weighs? It has a 10.8m cleaning radius so similar to the C3 Complete which has an 11m cleaning radius.
 
I really have no idea why Miele continued with the S5 style after the EU regs came in. That would've been the perfect time to end that style. There is absolutely no performance difference between the C2 Complete (S5) and C3 (S8). The price difference isn't much either.
 
I dunno maybe some people prefer the rotating knob to the foot switches? Is the S5 built better than the S8?
 
Is the S5 built better than the S8?

They're both about the same. There's very little difference between the 2, apart from astethics.

Personally, I prefer the design of the S5/C2 Powerline, but that's no reason to continue production of 2 TOL machines. There must be some kind of logic to it, but I haven't figured out what it is yet :P
 
Haha i agree with you i think it's strange too! I like the blue colour celebration S8 very nice. But then blue is my fav colour.
 
Haha i agree with you i think it's strange too! I like the blue colour celebration S8 very nice. But then blue is my fav colour.
 
Speaking as an owner of both the S5 is slightly heavier and a bit more robust than the S8. Miele have counter acted this with a slight increase of the rubberised bumper on the S8 bodies, minimising body scratches compared to the S5.

The S8 also has no rotary dial control for suction speed and I rather love that there's a push button memory that the Miele will save on the S8 rather than having to press the speed after use, each time. Its a little thing, but I dont mind the change up from dial to press buttons. Im not all that bothered on how a suction speed looks; as long as a cylinder vac has one I'm happy.

Miele always wants to make money but since the recession I think they are just selling off the last of the bodies and machines; the S4 "Young Style" is proof of this; it appeared shortly after the blue S4212 was phased out and was a Curry's exclusive for a short time. Alongside that was the S700 cylinder vacs and after September 2014, few were also sold with the low rated motors.

Its all about making money, Chris; that's why Miele have introduced all these "older" vacuums on the market; not just to counteract a recession and thus giving buyers a wider choice, but also to finish off older production bodies.

SEBO are also doing the same; they're happy with sales of the K series and are selling the E series alongside the K series and in time will phase out the K, just as the D series did for the C series.

The Germans are not into wasting many a good design, particularly if it still sells well and if there is life left to give.
 
Of course Miele have also counteracted these old machines versus new by offering more components as well.

Only a few months ago they offered the now difficult to find "flex handle" XXL handle which allows any Miele S6 owner to double up the hose in a more compact way. It is also a bit longer than the standard bent handle and can also be retro-fitted to any Miele cylinder vac provided that the machine has double slots on the body. I thought about it but I ordered the Comfort handle from Miele in Germany as I find it far more comfortable to use than the bent handle on my S8.

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I'd likie a comfort handle. How much did you pay for yours Nar? I've seen them on Ebay for around £40.
 
One thought on the SEB228/SEB236 effectiveness dispute: the SEB228 (Wessel Werk EBK360) has manual height adjustment. A lot of people think this is inconvenient, but the consensus - such as it is - is that manual height adjustment cleans better.

I haven't used the SEB236 (or its rough equivalent, the Wessel Werk EBK340) much, but IMHO the EBK360 is really, really good despite the adjustment pedal being a little stiff. Maybe that accounts for the price versus ratings disparity?
 
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