New Dysons!!

[charles~richard]

The world's butchest vacuum cleaner...

I have a feeling that the Dyson's styling and aesthetics are being marketed -- almost subliminally, really -- to men. The machines look all rugged and manly and like machine shop tools instead of something as sissy as a vacuum cleaner <br
While their designs are, overall, cool and innovative - if a bit over the top - I think the lot of them is butt ugly. I don't like the harsh, garish colors, and the heavy-industrial look of them doesn't appeal to me at all. Just MY opinion mind you; obviously plenty of people don't agree or they wouldn't be selling the way they are. But I echo what someone else said - I'd only have one if someone gave it to me <br

 

[myhooverco]

Charles...I agree with you...I do not like the styling at all...and they just don't work well with that tiny agitator. Who wants to revisit that nasty dirt everyday. (I vacuum everyday and don't like the thought of having to dump the thing and clean it out...much easier to change a bag ONCE a week...simple...clean...easy...and cheap...bags from the employee sales center are like $0.20 each on average! <br
The gal at work got a dyson in pink! She loves it. I will have to keep you updated on her love affair with it. I think she is in the honeymoon stage right now. <br
I don't want one at all...any bagless cleaner...any brand <br
--Tom

 

[tolivac]

I can remember more than one Kirby salesmen mentioning that Kirbys appeal more to men then women.Women often don't like changing the attachments-like going from floor cleaning to the hose.On the Dysons-the hose and attachments are rather unfreindly to use-awkward.The Kirby hose is actually MUCH easier to use.I hope Dyson improves their hose and attachment design.From what I have seen around here-Dysons are NOT top sellers.Their appearence to me is UNUSUAL!-they do sort of look to "cheap" and platsticy.

 

[colovacman]

I have owned two Dysons and have given one away to a friend and will gladly part with the other. I love the way they empty -- the best of the bagless lot. But they don't seem to be great for my carpet. I hope that the new American version of both the upright and the canister will be better suited toward our carpets. As with most collectors on this board, it's definitely fun to see and use different machines -- Dyson included. The whole "bagless" trend seems to be a major turning point in American vacuum sales and consumers should reap the rewards of the competition that's out there.

 

[charles~richard]

"The whole "bagless" trend seems to be a majo

Well I for one certainly hope not! To me that would seem a huge step BACKWARD in vacuum cleaner dust management and disposal. <br
The idea of a sanitary, hygenic, disposable SEALED container of dirt originates with the Electrolux "wrapper" introduced in 1952 where a rubber membrane and cardboard finger seals the dirt inside when the paper bag is removed from the cleaner. And of course disposable paper (cellulose actually) bags go all the way back to the 1920s with the Air-Way uprights <br
I really don't get the point of all that hepa-this and quadruple-filtered-that (mostly sales hype I suspect), if the user is going to be exposed to a cloud of spewing dust particles when dumping the vacuum cleaner dirt from one open container [the vacuum cleaner's dirt bin] into another open container [the trash can] <br
Of course, this is slightly less objectionable to the water-based machines where one is obliged to completely dismantle the machine, then pour out filthy, disgusting looking wastewater, and then leave the works dismantled until it dries out - meaning you can't just "vac and go" as most people tend to do --- do their sweeping and then open the hall closet door and toss the sweeper inside ... as my mom loves to do! <br
Mama does not even unhook the hose and attachments, nor coil the cord up -- just pitches the entire lot into the closet and tosses the cord in on top!! And she has done that ever since I was a teeny toddler and she had her Electrolux E-Automatic <br
Not that I recommend that sort of treatment, nor do I do so ... but it makes me laugh imagining my mother faced with a pile of dripping wet sweeper parts to deal with every time she vacuums! I have a feeling it wouldn't be long before the lot was sitting at the front curb waiting for the trash collector <br

 

[myhooverco]

Charles...amen to your post...very well written! It is nice to hear some common sense!!! <br
--Tom

 

[compactc9]

I too like a bag that seals closed when taken out of the vacuum. It makes bag changing sooo much nicer.

 

[tolivac]

I can agree with Charles too-whats the point of the bagless machines-if they have a "HEPA" filter system-then when you have to dump it--you are exposed to the dirt and dust you were trying to aviod-and if dumpted inside-just spreads the dust you just picked up!I will stick with the BAGGED machines.Have had no problems of bags clogging or smelling.

 

[seamusuk]

As Miele says.........

Bags ARE Best <br
The number of people with allegies that dont give a thought about how a bagless cleaner of any make is emptied never fails to amaze me lol. Even the way Dyson recommend (plastic bag etc) still leaves the dust exposed when removing the container from the bag <br
Any bagged cleaner-especially those with self sealing bags avoid the flying dust problem way better and If anyone wants clean easy dirt disposal I personally would never recommend a bagless of any make <br
Just my opinion <br
Seamu

 

[compactc9]

The DC17.

http://www.allbrands.com/printPage.php?cid=1248&i_id=&action=2&p=1

 

[swingette]

as one of the old Hoover adverts advised...

show me the agitator!

 

[convertible68]

I am another who prefer bags over bagless. Much easier to change (yes, even bottom-fill bags on uprights), no filters or bins to mess with, and you don't have to worry about emptying out after each use. We had a Wal-Mart/GE bagless upright a few years ago (which was probably Eureka-made), and over time, regardless of how often you cleaned the filter, it slowly began to lose power. We're now using a Rainbow D4C as our main vacuum, which, for all intents and purposes, is bagless. My mom loves it; she is amazed every time at the junk it picks up in the water. All this time I thought she would have been the last person to love a Rainbow, considering the fact that emptying and keeping the tank clean can be a chore. It does a fantastic job of cleaning but I do think it's a bit inconvenient, though. Although I've never had to use it in my room anyway...the Frankenvertible takes care of that. <br
However, if I *HAD* to have a bagless upright, it would be a Dyson and nothing else. I will definitely keep that DC17 Absolute in mind; NICE-looking machine. Hopefully the brushroll is better than its predecessors; if it is, perhaps this will be the model that I will "bite the bullet" for and purchase <br
All of the "standard" Dysons such as the DC07, DC14, etc. have absolutely no appeal to me. Noisy and flimsy, in my opinion. I did try a DC15 Ball shortly after it came out and the way it handled almost had me sold, as well as the fact that it was a very quiet machine. However, when the Best Buy rep dumped the contents of the bin on the floor to vacuum back up, it did not like the pile of dirt at all. Took a few passes, and some of it either scattered across the floor or stuck to the nozzle itself. It's a shame because except for the nozzle, I really like the overall design of it. Except for those retractible wheels, it seemed more "solid" than the others, <br
--Austin

 

[vintagehoover]

Dyson DC16 Root6 Handvac

From the UK website...

http://www.dyson.co.uk/range/feature_frame.asp?model=DC16-SY-STD&sinavtype=pagelink

 

[tolivac]

$549 for THAT!! Forget it!!!also-show me the brushroll.does it use the belt-ratchet system?when I visited one of the vac places here-he replaced another ratchet-belt unit in a Dyson-an $80 job.I'll stick to the $2 belt!!and you can change it yourself.

 

[vintagehoover]

The Dyson Airblade hand-dryer sounds interesting; I think the case of Dyson Airblade vs. ordinary hand-dryers is much more clear-cut than Dyson vacuum cleaner vs. bagged vacuum cleaners. I can't wait to try one! Just hope they're better made than Dyson's vacuums...a broken-down Dyson hand-dryer vs. ordinary hand-dryer isn't gonna impress anyone!

 

[compactc9]

For belts, just give me a geared belt that I won't have to think about for a long time.

 

[acerone]

Here's a really big picture of the DC18.. I want one of those....

http://www.whatsthebest-vacuum.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1160238515/40

 

[ahzeks]

Suprising Dyson Recommedation From a "Pro"

I had breakfast this past weekend with friends, one of whom works for the local university in the "Residence Life" department. He maintains and repairs the cleaning equipment (vacuum cleaners, floor scrubbers, extractors, etc.) that are used by the custodial staff in the residence halls. He also services the vacuum cleaners that are kept in the buildings for student use in their dorm rooms. The other friend was in the market for a new vacuum cleaner. Much to my suprise, my cleaning equipment repair friend recommeded a Dyson to my other friend. In the past, he had always only recommended Windsor or Sebo commerical models. When I asked him why he was recommending the Dyson, he said that it's because it is the only vacuum cleaner that the students haven't been able to destroy. He said they bought two of them two years ago for student use and he hasn't had to do a single repair on them. So this year, they bought several more Dysons to replace commercial machines that the students have managed to destroy. He said that the Sanitares and commercial Hoovers lasted less that a year in the hands of the students. And, while they held up much better, he said the Windsors/Sebos were always coming in for repair with broken handles, broken handle releases, broken bag covers, broken cogged belts (!) and almost always completely clogged from bag to floor nozzle, because the students never checked or changed the bags.