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Wow. They have "invented" a Kenmore Direct Drive. Yawn. And, they've invented the air flow control on the power nozzle that was first brought out on the 1970's Compact vacuum. What's next? Oh yes, now they need need beater bars on the brush roller. So much for innovation.
 
Dysonman1

LOL! I thought that was funny! It's so true too. Also, I am interested on buying that Thunder and Fury.
 
Motor

Regarding the video of that machine, and the last few seconds of the video...

I see Dyson still persists in using a conventional suction motor in their uprights. So one must presume that the Dyson Digital Motor is unsuitable for their uprights.
 
Cautiously optimistic..

The new cleaner head looks nice, but I noticed the self-adjusting "bellows" are gone, so it's just sits on the carpet like the older models. If the brushbar is designed to still spin when cleaning bare floors, that means the brushbar will need to be really gentle, or hardly protrude from the sole-plate at all (sadly the latter is the likely scenario). If that's the case, the carpet cleaning performance will yet-again be compromised, despite looking like it means business. However, if that isn't the case, and the machine just has a huge aggressive brushbar that does an awesome job, then it looks like a winner. Dyson claims it's much quieter too!

I wonder if this model was made to meet the new stricter EU energy regulations? If so, the US likely won't get the same machine. We never got the lower-consumption MK2 models, but instead similar variants.

I'm still waiting to see Dyson's nifty self-cleaning shroud on one of their uprights!
 
Just spotted this on the Dyson Germany page

What in the world is going on here? This looks like some Hoover Triple Vortex complexity. Dyson touts that it's their best bin ever.

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@tolivac

I wish I could fully disagree with you. The Cinetic uprights are flawed, and most will die an early death due to choked exhaust filters (but it's not from clogging cyclones, it's from the lack of a pre-motor filter). However, in terms of bagless filtration, Dyson still leads the pack by a mile. They keep improving and patenting their cyclonic filtration along the way. Sure the DC07s, DC08s, and initial DC17s had issues with clogging cyclone packs, but they've long sorted out that issue. For me, on newer Dysons, I dislike having to reach into the bin to pull out dirt around the shroud if I had overfilled it. My experience so far with the "dirt ejector" Dyson bins has been terrific. I can't wait to see how this mysterious new setup works!
 
I just go by what I see and help Mike with at the vac shop here when customers bring in Dysons of ALL types saying---"Won't pick up" we find clogged cyclones,airpath,and of course filters CAKED with dirt.One Dyson airpath contained a pen and a bottle of fingernail polish!When Mike tried to pull the clog out with the pen,nail polish,and wads of hair the cap came off the bottle and made a mess of the bench.The "dirt ejector" flaps on the dirt container results in the "POOF" of dust when the machine is dumpted-right into your face!You almost need to suck out the containers and filters with a bagged vacuum to avoid the poof factor in the dysons-and most other bagless vacuums.I will stick with HEPA type cloth bags!They can hold more debris anyway.Too-many folks that buy Dysons and other bagless vacuums don't read the instruction books that come with them-they say to empty the machine after each use--like with a cloth dump bag vacuum.Instead the user treats the bagless machine like a disposable bagged vacuum and only dumps the bin when it is full or even PACKED with stuff.
 
This new Dyson is the same as all previous models - It is Junk just like every other plastic bagless vacuum. The cleaning ability is just mediocre due to it's flawed BAGLESS design.


 


Dyson's sell because of their shiny futuristic looks, but they soon get replaced when the cyclone and filters clog up.


 


 
 
For years I owned a DC14 (still have it). Really disgusting giving it a periodic good cleaning. The last time was the final straw that made me decide to get a bagged vacuum. My Miele is still spotless through-and-through.
 
I figured out how the new cyclone pack works

It's combination of Shark's current filtration system (a tight initial single cyclone that flings dirt away from the shroud.. notice the second bin-flap, and lip that would let dirt fling out into the bottom portion of the bin, the much smaller shroud, and narrower top chamber of the bin), followed by Dyson's patented Cinetic cyclonic system. Although I will ALWAYS advocate for a pre-motor filter in any vacuum, I bet this combination of both systems will yield excellent dust separation.

In the bagless market, Shark has by-far the best single-cyclonic system, and it's been copied by both Miele (their bagless canister uses the same separation principles that all new Sharks use), and funnily enough, now Dyson.

Very interesting to see Dyson of all companies give an engineering nod to one of their competitors. I thought they were the inventors!
 
Shark is another plastic bagless abomination that gets hopelessly clogged-the neck going from the powernozzle to the body.The powernozzle can't be opened for service-say to replace the belt.You have to buy a whole new powernozzle!!!A sick joke of a vacuum cleaner-yet folks buy them because of the flashy ads and pretty shiny plastic with the FAKE "Chrome"!!ANY used BAGGED vacuum will outperform those Sharks which perform like a minnow!!!
 
@tolivac

Trying may be believing. I own a few newer Shark vacuums, and frankly I've been pleasantly surprised by how well they perform. They're great! Most of them have narrow, but extremely aggressive brushrolls, and clean and groom like all my other fav vacs. They're also quiet, and I love the versatility with the tools and all the cleaning options. They're easy to empty and maintain, too. I still prefers Dyson's setup of an upright with a long stretch hose for stairs (where you just walk up the stairs and clean with the wand, instead of having to carry the machine with you, like Shark or others), but most consumers will likely find their Sharks more than satisfactory. Unlike Hoover and Eureka, Shark is actively learning from the feedback of their customers, and applying it to their products. Some of their new machines are fun to use, and do a great job!

Shark also introduced me to the "wand headlight," a feature an engineer and fellow enthusiast suggested a decade ago during a conversation. I thought the idea was a bit extravagant at the time, but now that I've used it in the Powered Lift-Away, it's proven extremely handy and beneficial!
 
I tried the Sharks at the vac place and WAS NOT impressed-another clacky,creaky piece of vacuum plastic.IE trying the customer machines after they were unclogged to see if they would work.Glad you are happy-I am NOT going to buy a Shark,Dyson,or ANY other bagless vacuum cleaner.
 
"I am NOT going to buy a Shark, Dyson or ANY other bagless vacuum cleaner. "


 


Neither will I!  I share that same opinion!


 


 
 
High quality vacuum

There is one premium alt instead of the China made Hoovers, vaxes, Bissells, Dysons and Sharks. The Miele Blizzard. I am not a fan of bagless (due to allergy and due to low quality) but Qualitywise it is great. Well that is of course for another thread.
 

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