my new Vorwerk VK200

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There is no doubt that converting the Kirby to bare floor cleaning mode is a far more cumbersome process than the simple flick of a switch on the Vorwerk and the Miele. The German vacs are probably far easier to use in general, though you can't beat the deep carpet cleaning provided by a heavy self-propelled Kirby.
 
But that's only suitable if you have lots of thick, cut pile wall to wall carpets. If you've got a mixture of floor types, lower pile or Berber carpets, the Kirby is a waste of time.

There's no switch to change floortypes on the Vorwerk, it has an ultrasonic sensor underneath that detects the floor type & adjusts accordingly.
 
Very nice, I really wish we had the Vorwerk in the states. I can't see myself buying a Kirby Avalir new, there just isn't enough change from previous models. The Kobold seems to change frequently and looks very modern.
 
Both are great cleaners. The Kirby wins in the deep pile cleaning stakes and also for wider open spaces of carpet. However it's so god damn heavy and the rooms in our house are not that large, whist makes it very awkward to use. As we have 3 floors, above floor cleaning is important which is really where the Vorwerk comes into its own. The sonic sensor on the powerhead switches between carpet and hard floor settings without me doing anything.

In terms of dry vacuum cleaning, the Vorwerk offers so much more - waterless window/glass cleaning, the Lavinia mattress cleaning kit, motorised polsterboy for upholstery/stair cleaning.

I prefer the tool storage set up on the a Kirby. The hard case caddy is easier to carry around and the tools are more accessible and quicker. I also like that the Kirby fully becomes a cylinder/canister cleaner that can be pulled around on wheels - something Vorwerk could look at doing in the future with some sort of caddy like on the Shark uprights.

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I imagine the bag in the Kirby is much larger than that in this new Vorwerk, which probably means less bag changes. Also, the top fill configuration probably maintains better airflow as the bag fills. I can't imagine the airflow being that great in the Vorwerk as the air has to fight its way through the collection of dirt in the bottom fill bag.
 
It's a clean air machine. The digital motor is in the top of the machine. If you read the first post, I explained the bag set up:

The bottom fill bags, I thought, were the dumbest thing I'd ever seen. Bottom fill bags!? What is this, 1974? But they work really well. Basically, if you imagine turning a Lux 345 on it's head, that's how it works - it creates a cyclone in the bag which forces the dust and dirt to the sides, keeping a clear air path through the middle of the bag. It also has a little cover which snaps shut when you turn the cleaner off to stop dirt falling out.

The bag is pretty full but there's been no suction loss as the dust is building up on the side of the bag.
 
That is what I thought-a clean air machine.Since the bags appear to be cloth-it may not really matter if top or bottom fill-with the cyclone airflow.The Vorwerk would be an interesting vacuum to see-but don't think I will replace my Kirby with one.
 
Thanks Mark, I'm loving it!! I'm trying out the carpet freshener at my in laws tomorrow, I'll let you know how it does.

Totally off topic Mark, but the stubble suits you, keep it up. Just don't let it grow into a full blown dangling beard.
 
Yes let me know. The range of accessories are the best i've seen. They are a bit on the expensive side but still a great investment.

Haha thanks Chris my electric shaver packed in :)
 
That's exactly where I've found the Vorwerk to come into its own. As an upright, it's much lighter & quieter but doesn't pick up a whole lot more. Whereas above floor, nothing compares really
 
I am going to get one sometime. It's just such a cool looking cleaner.

There's not much else around right now that interests me.

Hopefully that will change.
 
Hi!
Are you by any chance Sorcerer on youtube?
We have one thing in common, we both own a Kobold VK200.
I did a lot of videos with it, but I would like to see your take on it😀 live.

If you are sorcerer then you must have been like 10 years old when you started making videos 🙂.
 
The Vorwerk just looks so practical and modern compared to the Kirby. Many people have an issue with using Kirby vacuums because of their complicated attachments, while the Vorwerk's attachments seem simpler to use while still being even more versatile.

I personally prefer dry compound carpet cleaning to dry foam, so the Kobosan attachment is neat.
 
Hej Jakob!

Yes, I'm sorcerer101567 on YouTube! I think my first video was in 2008 or so, so I would've been 18. I'm 27 now.

I'll try and do some videos when I can, things are fairly busy at the moment so I don't always get chance. I've got some holiday time booked off coming up so maybe then :).

Myles, you're absolutely right. In terms of dry vacuuming, the Kobold does everything that the Kirby does, but in a lighter, quieter and more convenient cleaner.
 
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