My new rather large toy

[gsheen]

I got this monster today

Its a wap Turbo d

This monster uses three phase power.

 

[gsheen]

Top View

 

[gsheen]

The motor

Its a 380 Volt 3 phase motor with 2000 rpm

The Blower is a 3 stage vacuum pump It moves 5200L of air a second.

 

[gsheen]

The wall socket

 

[tolivac]

WOW!!!COOL!!!Almost resembles one of the three ph 380V blowers in one of our transmitters!Certainly one super sized vacuum!The power connector is sort of strange-never seen one like that.Is that a genset near the wall of that building on the other side of the Mercedes?You will probably need that genset to fire up your new MONSTER vacuum!Don't see a logo on the genset-but looks Caterpillar to me.

 

[gsheen]

Hi Rex

That a Cummins diesel Generator. Its not a very big one but is handy if the power goes out. Makes a huge racket when it comes on as my office is just accross they way.

That socket is just one of the normal 3 phase plugs we get here. I have 3 phase in my building so its kind of handy. Most factory's and business parks have 3 phase here

 

[tolivac]

Interesting--A yellow Cummins genset-usually they are painted a grey color.Caterpillar uses their unmistakable "Caterpillar Yellow"or is it "Harvest Gold" to appliance guys.Glad your place has 3Ph power so you can run your new "toy"Glad you have sockets to match the vacuums plug-just wasn't famaliar to me.Not a usual NEMA plug we have in the US.The place where I work has 3Ph as well.Lots of it!Can you make a video of your new vac firing up and picking up stuff?Would be neat to see.What type of filters does it use?

 

[gsheen]

Hi Rex

I will take a pic of the inside of the geny on Monday. Its a grey blue on the inside. I also thought it was a CAT when I moved in.

We hardly get the Nema plugs Mostly these one's They work well.

See filters below.

 

[gsheen]

The plug again.

My home has 3 phase power too, But most older homes here do. But USA homes also have 3 phase in the basement for the dryer normally dont they?

 

[collector2]

Hey Gareth

3 phase in the US and Canada is only used commercially. In homes we have dual voltage 120/240 with dryers and stoves running on 240V. (Incidentally 3 phase systems here are generally 120/208 volts with a few large buildings using 380 for lighting or large motors)

The household comes from a center tapped transformer so you have two live lines which deliver 240 between them and a center tap grounded (earthed) or neutral line. From either of the live lines to the neutral line is 120 V.

Doug

 

[gsheen]

Hey Doug

Thanks. In SA Our Voltage is 220-240 v Most Modern houses only have that. Some old homes like mine have 400v for some or other reason.

At my Factory I have 220v, 380-400 v 3 phase and heavy duty 3 phase 600 v. I have never used the 600v but recently almost bought a huge wap high pressure washer at an auction that used 600v It was a massive machine the size of a small car. They used to use it for cleaning trains. A farmer out bid me

 

[davetranter]

3-phase connector

Is a BS6363 or CEE23 standard connector. It is now the standard connector for industrial/commercial use on this side of the 'Pond'. It is available in various voltage/current configurations, colour-coded for voltage. Red (as shown) corresponds to 380-440V. Blue is used for 240V (mainly single-phase). Yellow for 100-120V Single/3-phase (CTE). I (think) Green is 50V and purple is 24V, but not sure. I'm sure the relevant information must be on the 'net. Current capacities are 16,32,63, and 125 Amp. That one 'looks' to be a 32Amp.

There are also high current 'Camlok' connectors available in a similar housing (single terminal circa 500Amp)

Hope this helps

Dave T

 

[gottahaveahoove]

In a word:

"YIKES"

 

[gsheen]

Dave

Thanks for the info. We used to have this one in SA but it was outlawed.


John Yikes is a good way to describe it.

 

[cb123]

How many amps of pressure does that hot momma push?

 

[gsheen]

HI Calem Its pulls 32 amps

Gareth

 

[suckolux]

all VERY interesting!

 

[davetranter]

Beast!!

It's a beast by any standards!! Video please!!!!!!

All best

Dave T

 

[gsheen]

I have never done a vid, Will try one tomorrow if I get a chance

 

[tolivac]

Some REALLY large mansion type homes in the US are often equipped with 3Ph 208/120V mainly to run the HVAC system.Multifamily units such as apartments and condo buildings are fed with 3Ph 208/120-but the apartments are single phase.The units are split up on the 3 phases and large building systems-again the HVAC that is used in the building common areas runs on the 3Ph.Or the whole building is cooled in the spring and summer by chiller units running from the 3Ph supply.One apartment building I lived in was fed with 480V 3Ph-the chiller ran from the 480V another transformer in the basement stepped the 480V to 208/120V for the apartments.Most single family homes are fed with the 240/120V single ph supply.You can get rotary and solid state convertors to convert the 240V to 3ph power to run a 3Ph tool in a workshop or similar-one freind I know has a rotary convertor in his place so he can run a 3Ph motored lathe and lilling machine in his home shop.He bought the convertor from of all places-a pawn shop for like $5.00.

 

[gsheen]

I am going to be hooking this thing up in my workshop as a central vacuum. I just got some more 5 core cable and a new switch box so I can mount this monster and leave it in one spot

 

[tolivac]

Impressive and really large filters in that vacuum-looks like it been tried out a little-some lint clinging to the filters.Yes,that machine would make a nice shop dust collector.Seems like its drum could hold many gallons of debris.Really neat machine!

 

[gsheen]

Yes it is second hand.

New they cost around $ 3600.00 new. I got this one for a good price.

The nice thing is that their is very little to go wrong on these machines as their are no real wear and tear parts other than the filters and the belt driving the turbine. The motor and blower bearings last ages although a fresh pack of grease is always good every year or two. The motor spins at 2000rpm and the blower at 8000. They are designed to run 24 hours a day non stop.

When I worked for wap this machine was sold with a 24 hour a day 365 day for 5 years life span minimum. They never seem to break unless you do something stupid.

What also makes them nice is they are mainly stationary so bumps and scratches are very few even for its age.

 

[gsheen]

New switch box installed just need to add the covering to the trunking.

 

[Deleted member 5000]

That big red plug is a 32A 3 phase IEC60309 "Ceeform" plug. Very commonly used in Europe for heavy duty applications. Appears to be common in Africa too then.

It's red because it's intended to be used with 380-480v. There are also single phase blue ones for use with 200-250v and yellow for 100-130v.

http://plugsocketmuseum.nl/IEC60309_1.html

 

[madman]

lol thought they were talking about the Merc until I scrolled down.

 

[huskyvacs]

Let's make a turbodiesel vacuum cleaner, lol

 

[gsheen]

lol thought they were talking about the Merc until I scrolle

Madman
I Miss that Dam car so much, was such a awesome ride