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You mean by flexible poor quality

Is actually not true the reason I've made it flexible as it can except more Force and the dc24 is quite old model one doesn't have flexible plastic only recently started the flexible plastic and I know this as recently just ordered the DC 41mk2 and I asked do they get many DC 40 and DC 41 for repair and problems he said the only problems I've had with them is the little wheel on the brush bar housing and they did have a problem with the sideboard ball but that was fix and said they've never had a problem with the plastic on the new dc40 dc41 and dc50 and there is some proof that they might look cheap are anything but that and DC07 always used to crack and a break off if Dropped and I dropped a couple DC07 and they have broke and when I had my DC41I drop that A lot and nothing broke super sweeper don't forget you've had none of the new ones have no experience with them I have what I have seen a very good and very tough but Side the couple problems They have had one of the best license and ever created personally think Dyson only recently started making fantastic products and I would rather have a Henry the DCO seven as I just don't like the older Dyson can you please stop making judgements against Dyson when you haven't even got the new ones or have any experience :)
 
You bet I don't have any of the new ones, Dyson isn't getting my cash until he builds a vacuum that doesn't bend itself while in use! Why on earth would you want to vacuum with such a thing, you couldn't go 2 minutes without hearing plastic creek! 


 


Unfortunately Sebo Fan, the Dyson vs. (Pretty much every other brand) war has been going on since the dawn of Dyson, and it has no end in sight! 
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It might bend but it is never broken It's not Dyson versus pretty much every other brand never said Dyson is the best backing cleaner in the world it's just my preference sebo fan Mike soon bye so that his preference starts and what isn't ending because you keep bringing it up only respond to something when I find it offensive i'm not true you've made this Dyson War on for too long as go on everything about Dyson say some crap about it just makes it go on for longer you need to stay away From Dyson thread I don't go on to thead about Kirby and so crap about them and what I don't like about them as there is a lot but I don't need to say as I know it will upset someone and Everything you have to say something about dyson is not nice and is no need for upsets me and some other people you wouldn't like it if I said crap about Kirby so please stop saying all this crap about Dyson but obviously don't like them So you don't need to keep on saying it and stay away from Dyson threads
 
Sorry sebo fan I was not referring to you It was for super sweeper and i hard enough to write messages site is very hard to put four stops as I i've got A learning disability Cut me some slack.i'm not the one who's gone off topic i've just reply to someone's apply that I find not very nice i'll go back to the same and ignore super sweeper. but I I apologise :)
 
I've got dyslexia as well. I can't read very well at all I my computer reads everything for me.
 
Well! Ladies! Whats going on here then? Handbags at dawn? haha

To answer a few of your questions and comments....

No, the new Henry didn't come with one of the canvas shopping bags. He came with the standard 4 spare dust bags but that was about it. Not to worry though as I have a Henry shopping bag boxed away with my Numatic George.

I've had George for about 5 - 6 years now roughly? He was initially bought for the sole jobe of washing carpets as at the time we had two dogs.
On the grand scale of things given the time I have owned him he has had very little use. I've never really used him for dry use, apart from a short period that I used him for vacuuming the cars, as I find him too clumbersome and noisy for dry use. Superb machine all the same. 90% of his working hours so far have been for wet use, however he rarely gets used now as I prefer my Kirby Sentria2 for shampooing.

Our carpets are all pretty new and have no visible soiling, hence the Kirby system is more than enough for routine cleaning. I'm keeping the George though for things like wet cleaning the car footwells or any heavy jobs that require an extraction machine... for example one of the cats decied to go pee-pee behind the TV not so long back - George to the rescue!

The new Henry does have the standard clip by the exhaust outlet to hold one of the small tools, for example the dursting brush... Its not someting that I really use though and is not something I would miss if it were to be removed.


A lot of the comments above say 'the user has deleted this comment', so I can't read ALL of what has gone on, however to answer some of the Dyson questions...

The DC07 Origin is mine. It is currently at the back of the garden shed and isn't the most healthy machine in the world. In fact its pretty beat up and I'm teetering on the edge of binning it. I think it actually has about 2 years warranty left, however the condition is so poor I don't think its even worth trying to sell if I do decide to get rid of it. Maybe I'll get Dyson out to put a new motor in it (bearings are noisy) and keep it for any future MAJOR building work clean up jobs. Either way it owes me nothing at all.

The churches DC07 Animal is roughly 6 - 7 years old now, and as such is doing the typical Dyson 'thing' where the performance starts to drop off for no specific reason. Ideally it could probably use a new brush roll, new clutch or belts in the clutch and a new HEPA filter. All in all it's not really economical bothering with it given the high level of use and abuse it has had. It does them for surface cleaning and they're happy with it, so it will no doubt soldier on for a while yet.

And yes, the Henry is a LOT easier to use in the church when you're vacuuming for two hours solid darting between pews and vacuuming cobwebs from the stained glass windows ect
 
Can we please stop banging on about Dyson?

AMEN TO THAT! Thank God you said that before I did, Nar :P.

Seriously, does every single friggin' conversation have to have friggin' Dyson injected into it at high speed by the same friggin' people every friggin' time? That's too many friggin's, but you get what I mean.

Slightly disapointing that Numatic no longer include the handy tool bag. Does anyone know if you can still buy it online?
 
Yeah its a shame about the canvas bags as they're really handy for keeping all the extra tools and spare bags in...

Can anybody remember when Henry used to come with a Henry baseball cap?

If you can find one of these caps you should totally get one Chris... might help hide that hair-do of yours :p bahahahah MEEEEOOOOWWWWWWWWWW lmao

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Erm, no super sweeper, I have ALWAYSused dyson to suck upo water, models DC01 to DC25 so egg your facts right, please...
 
And there we go again, boys and girls, the same members throwing Dyson into the conversation where they don't need to be.

It's not recommended to suck water up with a Dyson, Tayyab. Mostly because the minute the water hits the top cyclones, it's going to get the filter wet and suck through into the motor. And then what? BANG. You should know that.

Having said that, you did just tell someone to "egg your facts right" and there's so much wrong with the sentence, I don't even know where to start. Gives a good insight into the level of intellectuals we have posting on here, doesn't it?
 
as I don't want to keep on going on about Dyson super sweeper just keep on going on saying how Dyson is crap any does it in every single thing even know it's not about Dyson anyone has their opinion but Best not to say it wouldn't hurt other people Offend them He just does not stop i will ignore super sweeper and his and not very Nice comments against dyson and I apologise and lupus we park if you see this you please stop with the Dyson hating I know you don't like them but you just continue and continue to say when everyone knows other people don't like Dyson but I don't continually says bad things about them on every single thread so please and again I apologise always try not to respond comments about Dyson and try and stick to the same but sometimes I just can't so again I apologise to turbo 500 and Sebo fan and matt8808
 
To my knowledge, a lot of those AA/ recovery motoring companies who help out motorists that inadvertently fill up their petrol led cars with diesel by mistake (and vice versa) and also the TA, swear by Numatics vacs that can suck out the fuel from car tanks. Of course one would imagine that it might be a Charles but also that the filter/motor would be properly protected.

Not that I am suggesting anything about sucking up fuel with a Dyson. I think any liquid and any electrical appliance is utter madness UNLESS the design purposefully allows liquid pick up, and even then you may still have to take precautions.
 
Goodness me, Parwaz786, you seem very hostile. You seem to only go on about dyson, yet this is a vacuum forum, not a dyson forum so have a little input in other makes of vacuums. Dysons, like Apple products (no mention of the new iPhone 6 anyone ;) are incredibly over priced and over rated. They are not terrible and some of their designs are quite thoughtful, but they are very over priced and the owners of the companies are quite corrupt and dis-honest to their customers, but hey, like beats headphones, because it is "a dyson" with fancy packaging a letter written on the side of the box so you know its a state of the art product, it must be fantastic.

Anyways, I love how we are all referring to our Numatics as he's and she's. I am going to get a John or Lewis in John lewis tomorrow as I need something tough and easy to use on my garage as it gets dusty through sanding and a few cobwebs etc, also be good for doings the cars I guess. Glad you like it ! And they are also British everything! Built, design and manufactured !!
 
Parwaz,

Now you and I do get on very well but please. This is not about Dyson. If you want to go ahead and suck up water. & use a Dyson for commercial use then go ahead. They won't cover it under warranty. You have seen my experience with their machines. Enough said on that one mister.

That Henry looks amazing and I took am impressed they are produced in the UK in sunny Somerset, though I'd still like them even if produced in the Far East as the quality would be fine I'm sure. It's just knowing they invest in the UK factory force gives it that edge for me. These machines are incredibly robust and the suction is amazing for such a low wattage machine. Well done to Numatic for producing a lovely machine. That video clip is interesting too! I do remember a little kid being scared of those big eyes and smiley face ha ha ;))
 
I do like your Henry, indeed, hope it provides you with many years of trouble free service, enjoy.
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That Henry cap is ADORABLE!....I feel as if I lost some of my manly-ness by saying that! 
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I don't think Dyson is a bad guy, but I also don't think his products live up to their expectations. I have yet to try a newer model, and rely on others experiences with them, and my own experiences with the Dysons I have owned in the past. The DC07, The DC14 and the DC17 all failed to impress me. I don't hate Dyson, hate is a strong word. Part of me wants to go out there and buy the latest Dyson, to see what they are like for myself. But another part of me wants to stay loyal to the Kirbys, Hoovers and etc. That has served me right in the past.


 


..back to Nunatic, using the vacuum as a tank-emptier sounds like as bad an idea as the Lewyt Electronic! Has anyone seen the show '1,000 ways to die'? In one episode they showed two morons stealing fuel with a shop-vac...guess how it ended? Boom! Reminds me of the 'in-home Lipo-Suction' episode,I won't go into details, but they made sure to have a clear tube on the vacuum! 
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Well, I finally gave in : ) I knew that I would either buy a Lewis or a Henry - and it has to be Henry.

Like Matt I also received the Wessel Werk plastic sole plate floor head. It weighs around 650 grams compared to the Metal based soleplate sold also by Nilfisk which I bought online. Fits perfectly and the metal one weighs 700 grams. The metal plate aids gliding and doesn't feel as rough as the plastic one. Both floorheads have snap fit tool slider collars for the tool park at the back of Henry, so it's only a matter of swapping the collars around.

Only for the moment the John Lewis ones appear to come with metal sole plate based suction only floor heads. Also took the opportunity in NOT using the generic cleaning tools that come with Numatic. Would rather save them and use up the spare tools I have from other brands - crevice and pull down reversible upholstery tool and brush taken from my old Vax Mach Air.

I got one bag fitted and 3 spare HEPA Flo dust bags. Very happy owning Henry - he's just like my old James model but with longer hose and at last the cord rewind roller. He is a bit quieter at 580 watts and only a little lighter to lift. My tubes haven't fallen off yet - its a matter of screwing them ever so tightly to ensure a tight fit.

Even better now are the main locking slider mechanisms at the sides - they're not as plasticky thin and painful on the hands, so little by little Numatic have made improvements here and there.

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Sebo fan any chance you could take a picture of the box.I decided to get Henry extra it came in a standard box not like the box you're supposed to get quite disappointed as I always like to keep the box. Or you could just tell me if your boxes is just the standard box I was quite disappointed as I've always loved Henry's boxes

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It depends on what you term as Modern. To my mind, Henry isn't a modern vacuum cleaner - he is beyond modern! He's something different - He's a traditional tried and tested commercial model with only a few differences made for the domestic market - Less so now perhaps that the troublesome Hi/Lo switch has been removed.

Still today, there aren't as many well built alternatives that can offer the same excellent sealed suction and massive dust bag capacity not to mention widespread availability of bags or spares.

There are so many advantages to owning Henry - but in my opinion, only if you have the space to accomodate him. I'd have liked to have seen that "running" LED light have a change of colour like SEBO to indicate when the bag needs replacing or when there's a clog. That would have been more modern. Also a few more tool clips or something similar to the crevice/dust brush combination.

There is nothing wrong with any of Henry's tools - but you have to limit the 4 that you get to the 1 you will need the most and slide it onto the hook on the main body.

I was impressed the first time when I bought my first Numatic - the yellow James with the open tool caddy at the top and where the cord could be either lasso'd over the top or collected all up and stashed at the top, clumsily. The original James had a shorter hose and lighter aluminium tubes, but in my experience, the lighter aluminium ones were more difficult to remove than Henry's stainless steel ones. I think the newer ones still have the same kind of tooling, but the whole range now benefits from the Wessel Werk suction floor heads.
 

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