My new eco Henry HVR 200-A2

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matt8808

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I won't bore you all to death too much, I'm sure we all know the basics about Henry, however they have made some interesting changes.

Firstly the motor is now only 580 watts down from the previos versions 1200. The motor sound is quieter than previous Henry machines I have owned and the suction is still just as strong! I'm amazed at how much suction it manages to produce given the low power input. I have the Airo brush (turbo brush) for it too and it spins it powerfully, even on plush carpet. The motor sound, although quieter than previous versions, has the traditional quality sound to it that we come to expect from Numatic. It's more of a quiet hum and definately not a high pitched whine.

It's also worth noting that the motor produces almost no heat. I can vacuum the entire house from top to bottom in one go and the exhaust air is barely above room temp!! I guess that this is due to the motor running slower with the lower electrical intake? Either way I've never known a clean air machine run so cold.

The main body of the machine is the same as the previous version regarding the bin and filter. Numatic have gone back to the simple on/off switch design and dropped the high/low setting switch - something that pleases me greatly as it will surely help boost the already fantasic reliability of these machines. It's also one less thing to go wrong. I mean you can't get any simpler than a motor with an on/off switch can you? They've stuck a 'power on' indicator light in place of the high/low switch... something that reminds me of the very first Vax machines.

The underside of the motor housing is slightly different, and the fan chamber of the motor looks more of a dome shape. This probably partly explains how they have halved the motor power and retained the same suction power.

The floor tool is different too. It reminds of a Miele floor head and works SO much better than previous Henry floor heads. I'm a little dissapointed to see a plastic base plate on it though given the machine is designed for commercial use. It will be interesting to see how the new nozzle stands up to commercial use and I dare say they will at some point start fitting a stainless steel base to the new style floor tool. Either way the new style floor head does a fantastic job and I'm really really pleased with the results it gives. It really sticks to the carpet! I'm finding I dont really feel the need to use the Airo Brush.

The small tools are the same as previos versions.

One thing that has changed though. Something I've only ever seen on cylinder Sebo machines before, is the hose!

Can you tell from the pictures?

It starts off as the 'normal' width at the working end and gets wider as it nears the machine. Sebo call this a cone shaped hose and claim it improves suction and reduces blockages. There is no mention of this as a feature from Numatic, however it is a good feature that helps explain how the suction is so high from the low power input. It's as if the power is being funnelled down the hose to the floor tool.

That's about all I can think of really so here are a load of pictures...

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My local Asda has this model on sale for £95, though it's more online. They originally had the old 1200 watt model which sold out and I was surprised to see the new version at the same price. My Asda only sells the Henry during a Home Event and if any are left when the event is ending, they get reduced again, so I'll keep my eyes on that and I may get a bargain.
 
I love numatic. I have massive respect for them for still producing thier producs, and thier beloved Henrys in England! And they dont just assemble them here, they are near 100% made here. They process the plastic pellets for the bodies, the bearings, the stainless steel, not to mention the motors and everything else. I am glad to see the union jack on the boxes and instructions. Basically a bonus that thier vacuums are beautifully built and incredibly reliable. A great video on Numatics factory below, talking about how manufacturing in Chard is more efficient than in the far east, due to quick deliveries and so on;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/legacy/daveharvey/2011/03/made_in_chard_the_somerset_fac.html

Due to the BBC coverage, Numatic say their recognition and sales were boosted!;
http://www.chardandilminsternews.co.uk/news/8908301.Chard_firm_Numatic_boosted_by_BBC_coverage/

Also about Numatic testing. Really funny to see those Henrys going round and round and getting disy ahahha!


As regards the hose being similar to SEBO, I would be surprised if there is a tie up some how with SEBO and Numatic. Both are similar companies in the sense they specialise in the more commercial aspect of cleaning, they also make their products in the country of origin. The only reason I say this is because there is a couple of Numatic upright vacuums which are SEBO G2 and G3 (or G1's, not too sure). Numatic are big in Germany, enough to dedicate a website which looks nicer than the English version !

http://www.numatic.de/produkte/numatic370/

They seem like a very legitimate, genuine company that are more content with giving people a nice product rather than making massive profit. Under £100 for a British built vacuum at that quality is a steal and many people would be happy to pay more than that I am sure. I love my George and am seriously thinking of getting one of these new models. Looks like a nice machine dude. Hope you are happy with him ! If only they would make a power nozzle version, an updated one from the Henry hound.
 
Oli - Its a SEBO 370 - Numatic are obviously being given permission to use SEBO's vacuums in Germany - it reiterates SEBO's private label distribution such as with WIndsor in the U.S and older Karcher uprights as well as cleaning companies.

Have a look at previous thread where I commented on the same Numatic models/German website http://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?24135
 
The plastic Wessel Werk floor head that is supplied with this new Henry is similar to the plastic ones that SEBO have been including with their basic SEBO K1 series for many years. I find it very durable, so I don't think you'll be losing out much over the stainless steel version. Infact, you might find it a great deal easier to push along the floor with.
 
I have the Lewis version as I like the colour and he's a bit different to the run of the mill red Henry. Personally I have cleaned the house twice with him and find it too much like hard work, bulky, gets stuck on funiture and I think the suction is rather lackluster although it only a small motor I suppose. Plus points are he is quiet but I think my UltraOne is quiter and my Miele too and they can be turned up the odd time you need a little more power. One last thing push fit tubes I do not like mine feel rather loose!

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Hi! Very very nice Numatic you have there! Great purchase and I'm sure Henry will serve you for a very long time.

As for the hose, it kind of is similar to the one on my Yellow HVR200A, it definitely looks much newer than my HET200A. Must be something Numatic developed over the last 2-3 years.


Brandon.
 
While a Miele or something else might be easier to wheel around obstacles, they would not be suited to what I want this machine for. It's for jobs I don't want to gunk my new kirby up on. So far it has seen daily use in our house, its vacuumed a large Saxon era church and has also cleaned 3 cars. I had to change the bag yesterday and I've not even had it a week! It's a machine that is desined and intended for commercial use, and from time to time thats exactly what it is going to see. Not had an issue with the stainless steel tubes feeling loose so maybe yours are faulty Ultraperformer?

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Well, speaking as someone who has owned a LOT of vacuums over the years and a die hard upright fan I have to say I love my Lewis that I got in June. I've had no trouble at all with the extension tubes coming apart and find the suction more than adequate. The airobrush is one of the best air driven tools I've used as is the carpet/hard floor tool. I did buy a mini turbo brush from Amazon to use with mine as I have a cat who seems to cast his body weight in fur every day. Even my partner likes Lewis, no mean feat as he has grumbled about every other vacuum in some way or another. I think Lewis will be a member of our little family for sometime yet :-)
 
Why not use the DC07 Animal or DC07 Origin?

Correct me if I'm wrong, Matt, but I'm guessing Tayyab that he didn't usse the DC07's because the Henry is a far better vacuum AND because Matt wanted a chance to test out his new machine.
 
I Think the dc07 would clean better but I would definitely rather have the Henry and one thing I hate about turbo brushes as they slow down when you put them on flooring and And the Henry's is not too bad for that but the best her by brush is the Dysons it actually speeds up when it hits the floor is it never slows down it does a great job but I do like Henry I think I'm definitely going to get one
 
Actually, the DC07 is capable of commercial use, as how matt has demonstrated, and FYI I have used my Dc14 for lasted dusty, and it never burnt out, same with my dc08 origin which uses the same motor, but without a spindle, and that one has been kept outside for four moths, in the snow, been used for plaster, sawdust, gravel, you name it. And it has been bashed around, and that thing still worked fine.
I would rather use a DC07 than a Henry for commercial use, because the peter ones, and dysons nowadays dont suffer from snapping plastics, they are flexible, so are almost importable to break under normal use, or even commercial.
Yes hey are designed for domestic use, but Dyson can work better.
Dyson say dont vacuum up water, but you can.
Dyson say dont use for commercial use, but you can.
 
Plus I am not hating Henry, I used to hate Henry till I used my Aunties 2012 Eco Henry, and was impressed. They do last, and have good durable motors, so no prob there in terms of lasting.
 
You can vacuum water in a Dyson, just like you can clean up an asbestos spill with a straw. They're both terrible ideas. You're basing Dyson's wet/dry capabilities from a dangerous youtube video. What happens when that water reaches the cyclones? Ruined motors,a huge shock hazard (don't touch the water, it'll be like licking the wand of an Lewyt Electronic), and worst of all, MOLD. With all the junk those Dysons fail to filter from the air, the last thing you want is the cyclones becoming a mold farm because somebody thought their Dyson could be used on water.


 


Please, by 'flexible' you must mean 'poor quality plastics that could snap at any moment', the last vacuum I would a want in a commercial setting is a Dyson. Don't tell me they're nearly impossible to break under normal use, you've seen just how much that certain DC24 has broken in it's short lifespan. This Henry will be cleaning rugs long after the DC07 is failing to decompose in a landfill.
 

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