Sounds like the 'Lux Guardian Platinum may be worth looking at.Sounds like 'Lux is raising the bar here.At some point may be a nice vacuum to add to my collection-gotta pay for some others first!
My New Aerus Vacuums
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williamr1248
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My New Aerus Vacuums
Dan,
Thanks for posting the information on the new Aerus!
It sure looks like an improvement over the last machine. We have lost our Aerus store in Indianapolis. I sure hope they have not waited too late for the new machine to come out. I would not be comfortabel buying one when we do not even have an Aerus store in the area.
Your machine looks great! It would be hard for me to go back to the bag vacuum after having the new Rainbow.
I agree with Mark in that with my recent Lux machines,the automatic control seemed to be worthless unless yo want to leave the bag in the machine until it is packed and I do not want to store the filth for weeks.
Thanks so much for the pictures and keep us informed of it's performance as you have had a chance to use it. It looks beautiful in the picture!
Dan,
Thanks for posting the information on the new Aerus!
It sure looks like an improvement over the last machine. We have lost our Aerus store in Indianapolis. I sure hope they have not waited too late for the new machine to come out. I would not be comfortabel buying one when we do not even have an Aerus store in the area.
Your machine looks great! It would be hard for me to go back to the bag vacuum after having the new Rainbow.
I agree with Mark in that with my recent Lux machines,the automatic control seemed to be worthless unless yo want to leave the bag in the machine until it is packed and I do not want to store the filth for weeks.
Thanks so much for the pictures and keep us informed of it's performance as you have had a chance to use it. It looks beautiful in the picture!
Hey KirbyLoverdan
I have the Guardian Upright for almost two years now, I like it, but don't love it. My complaints are with the separate tools, dated design, and some air leaks out of the bottom near the duct. (Does it emit any particles back into the air? Is it sealed?) Always wondered about this... Also, do you know if Aerus is coming out with a new upright? Your new canister looks nice, much improved than what was being offered..... I think one of the challenges is Aerus needs to get its name out there! period! I live on Long Island and we have just about three dealers here, the rest closed down over the years, but very pushy and sleezy store owners, make for a bad sales experience, that's why Aerus has not seen my repeat business. Ive been contemplating a switch to Miele or Riccar, but not making any rushed decisions yet. Would like to see what will be rolling out. The Platinum aside, I find the rest of their line up not as quite or refined as a Miele or Riccar
I have the Guardian Upright for almost two years now, I like it, but don't love it. My complaints are with the separate tools, dated design, and some air leaks out of the bottom near the duct. (Does it emit any particles back into the air? Is it sealed?) Always wondered about this... Also, do you know if Aerus is coming out with a new upright? Your new canister looks nice, much improved than what was being offered..... I think one of the challenges is Aerus needs to get its name out there! period! I live on Long Island and we have just about three dealers here, the rest closed down over the years, but very pushy and sleezy store owners, make for a bad sales experience, that's why Aerus has not seen my repeat business. Ive been contemplating a switch to Miele or Riccar, but not making any rushed decisions yet. Would like to see what will be rolling out. The Platinum aside, I find the rest of their line up not as quite or refined as a Miele or Riccar
Also, in Long Island, not sure how New Jersey is, but they sell Miele very well here. The vacuum stores stock them three times over any other brand. Riccar and Simplicity with a decent line up is hard to find as well. Many of the stores are not that pleasant to shop and demo in either...very shanty! I don't know if its just Long Island people or the demand for premiums vacuums is not here. How lucrative is it to open a retail store?
It looks like the hose handle is slightly shorter on the Guardian Platinum than it was on the previous models? It still looks bulky however. I had a 6500 and a 9000 and I hated the bulky handle and wands. They were great if all you wanted to do was vacuum the rugs or floor but for above the floor cleaning it was just too bulky and heavy to use so I ended up getting rid of both of them. Otherwise I like Electrolux a lot. Is the Platinum any quieter?
Gary
Gary
kirbyloverdan
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George & Gary
The Upright is not sealed so unless you have major alergies it holds the dust pretty good I know the first generation HEPA filters didn`t fit properly as the new one fits and is sealed to the machine .
They are in the process of bringing out a new upright no news at
all about that .
The seperate tools do not bother me at all I guess owning uprights and canisters I use the canister for the tools and carpets and upright just for the carpets .
The handle is close to the old one just a bit thinner and lighter it`s the same set up on the Tri Star their other company .
I happen to like the wands they work for me because I like taking one section to clean stairs and furniture .
The Platnium is very quiet I think it`s quieter than a Miele .
Owning a store is very time consuming and can be a money maker but in my area they dont care about quality when WalMart sells a $29.00 vacuum thats all they care about . Thats why I closed my store and I sell on Ebay where people know Quality .
I know about NY vacuum shops a friend used to be Electrolux`s best sales man from Long Island and if you walked into his shop you walked out with a brand new Electrolux . It`s all about the $$$ and how many they can sell per day .
The Upright is not sealed so unless you have major alergies it holds the dust pretty good I know the first generation HEPA filters didn`t fit properly as the new one fits and is sealed to the machine .
They are in the process of bringing out a new upright no news at
all about that .
The seperate tools do not bother me at all I guess owning uprights and canisters I use the canister for the tools and carpets and upright just for the carpets .
The handle is close to the old one just a bit thinner and lighter it`s the same set up on the Tri Star their other company .
I happen to like the wands they work for me because I like taking one section to clean stairs and furniture .
The Platnium is very quiet I think it`s quieter than a Miele .
Owning a store is very time consuming and can be a money maker but in my area they dont care about quality when WalMart sells a $29.00 vacuum thats all they care about . Thats why I closed my store and I sell on Ebay where people know Quality .
I know about NY vacuum shops a friend used to be Electrolux`s best sales man from Long Island and if you walked into his shop you walked out with a brand new Electrolux . It`s all about the $$$ and how many they can sell per day .
JDrums0789
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I am a HUGE fan of the Aerus Electrolux Uprights. I have an Epic 3500 SR (the dark gray model) and it is my favorite upright to use. Lightweight, good suction, great brush roll. Its the triple threat! And its so easy to go from rugs to bare floors, and the Sidekick, well it just puts air powered hand tools to shame. If I didn't love Kirbys so much, I would only have Electrolux!
I would just love to have the new all white model! Maybe I'll be able to score a deal when they debut the new upright.
I'm imagining the new upright as the next evolution of the discovery design, black with the stainless steel. I bet its going to be a real looker!
I would just love to have the new all white model! Maybe I'll be able to score a deal when they debut the new upright.
I'm imagining the new upright as the next evolution of the discovery design, black with the stainless steel. I bet its going to be a real looker!
floor-a-matic
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I'm hoping to buy the Guardian Platinum & Classic canisters & Guardian upright soon.
Currently, I own a G, L, two 1205s (might also get a 3rd 1205 & a XXX) a B-8 shampooer/polisher/scrubber (1205-era) a Diplomat & a Super J.
I just can't be without Aerus/Electrolux! They are my family favorites & everyone loves Electrolux (Aerus) products.
Currently, I own a G, L, two 1205s (might also get a 3rd 1205 & a XXX) a B-8 shampooer/polisher/scrubber (1205-era) a Diplomat & a Super J.
I just can't be without Aerus/Electrolux! They are my family favorites & everyone loves Electrolux (Aerus) products.
kirbyloverdan
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Aerus is a
great Quality made vacuum cleaner . Like I said every family member owns at least 3 or more .
We have owned Aerus/Electrolux for generations along with Kirby .
great Quality made vacuum cleaner . Like I said every family member owns at least 3 or more .
We have owned Aerus/Electrolux for generations along with Kirby .
Hey guys...just to clarify the history here: though you may have a fierce loyalty to Electrolux vacs that were designed and built in the USA, there would never have been an American Electrolux company had the Swedish Electrolux parent company not decided to invest in a branch in North America. The REAL Electrolux company is indeed the Swedish parent company that innovated the cylinder vacuum over in Europe.
It is fair to say that you prefer the products made between 1968 and 2007 by the American subsidiary of Sweden's Electrolux company and its heirs. And it's fair to say that you don't like a lot of the current vacs designed by that European company. But to remain true to historical facts, the real Electrolux is actually the Swedish company that now produces the Ultra Silencer and the UltraOne vacs - whether you like it or not. To be perfectly fair, one could also say that you prefer the vacs made by the Sara Lee cake company...Consolidated Foods.
Just to prevent any rewriting of history here....
It is fair to say that you prefer the products made between 1968 and 2007 by the American subsidiary of Sweden's Electrolux company and its heirs. And it's fair to say that you don't like a lot of the current vacs designed by that European company. But to remain true to historical facts, the real Electrolux is actually the Swedish company that now produces the Ultra Silencer and the UltraOne vacs - whether you like it or not. To be perfectly fair, one could also say that you prefer the vacs made by the Sara Lee cake company...Consolidated Foods.
Just to prevent any rewriting of history here....
kirbyloverdan
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Ummm I
know that history Brian . I have 2 Vikings made in Sweeden , they along with the European and American Cylinder tube shaped Electrolux/Aerus Vacuums are the best made in many Americans minds .
We now have the new Electrolux vacuums here since the person I dont remember his name sold the name back to the European Electrolux company . Those machine do not hold up as well as the old style Electrolux(Aerus)machines we are used to. Plus we know many of them to be Eureka Vacuums which are lower quailty vacuums sold in big box stores here in the USA . Yes we love our Sara Lee vacuums and baked goods thank you very much .
No one is trying to rewrite anything we are just LOYAL to our Electrolux (Aerus) we are used to and grew up with .You may like your Electrolux`s many Americans do
not . To each his own . I am not sure where you got us trying to rewrite history from ???[this post was last edited: 1/10/2013-22:32]
know that history Brian . I have 2 Vikings made in Sweeden , they along with the European and American Cylinder tube shaped Electrolux/Aerus Vacuums are the best made in many Americans minds .
We now have the new Electrolux vacuums here since the person I dont remember his name sold the name back to the European Electrolux company . Those machine do not hold up as well as the old style Electrolux(Aerus)machines we are used to. Plus we know many of them to be Eureka Vacuums which are lower quailty vacuums sold in big box stores here in the USA . Yes we love our Sara Lee vacuums and baked goods thank you very much .
No one is trying to rewrite anything we are just LOYAL to our Electrolux (Aerus) we are used to and grew up with .You may like your Electrolux`s many Americans do
not . To each his own . I am not sure where you got us trying to rewrite history from ???[this post was last edited: 1/10/2013-22:32]
kirbyloverdan
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Thank you
Mike I try to forget his name . It was a huge mistake on his part and very smart on Electrolux of Europe .
I remember when it first happened they were selling their rebadged Eurekas on QVC and they were using pictures of the USA Electrolux vacuums trying to say they are the same Quality which they never have been here in the USA .
Many people purchased the "new" Electrolux rebadged Eurekas and had no idea about what happened and hate Electrolux because of poor quality and they don`t know Aerus is our Electrolux vacuums of yesterday .It would be like Hyundai buying the Mercedes name and calling a Sonata an C Class Mercedes .
Mike I try to forget his name . It was a huge mistake on his part and very smart on Electrolux of Europe .
I remember when it first happened they were selling their rebadged Eurekas on QVC and they were using pictures of the USA Electrolux vacuums trying to say they are the same Quality which they never have been here in the USA .
Many people purchased the "new" Electrolux rebadged Eurekas and had no idea about what happened and hate Electrolux because of poor quality and they don`t know Aerus is our Electrolux vacuums of yesterday .It would be like Hyundai buying the Mercedes name and calling a Sonata an C Class Mercedes .
I agree Dan. I cringe when I see the the Electrolux name on those big box store vacuums.
Funny though any time I call my aerus store they still answer the phone with "aerus / electeolux". Any time a buy anything Including my platinum in October, I write out the check to Electrolux.. Funny they always take the check and don't say a word.
Funny though any time I call my aerus store they still answer the phone with "aerus / electeolux". Any time a buy anything Including my platinum in October, I write out the check to Electrolux.. Funny they always take the check and don't say a word.
Dan,
I am just saying that we should be careful what we label as the "real" company here. To me, the word "real" somehow means the original, authentic thing. We in North America bought the right to use a Swedish brand name on a certain line of American and Canadian vacs. We sold it back to the original owners in 2007. Can you imagine if some British vac collectors labelled their Candy Hoovers as the "real" Hoovers?
And it's not to say the "less real" or less original companies aren't producing good products. I am sure there are many European Candy Hoovers that could outperform some TTI Hoovers...
In truth, I am a loyal fan of the Eureka Williams company that no longer exists. But I am willing to give Electrolux credit for producing some great little vacuums, like my wonderful little Electrolux UltraSilencer Green imported from an Electrolux factory in Hungary. I challenge Aerus to produce a little powerful and quiet canister vac like that one for under $400 which is what I paid for it.
I am just saying that we should be careful what we label as the "real" company here. To me, the word "real" somehow means the original, authentic thing. We in North America bought the right to use a Swedish brand name on a certain line of American and Canadian vacs. We sold it back to the original owners in 2007. Can you imagine if some British vac collectors labelled their Candy Hoovers as the "real" Hoovers?
And it's not to say the "less real" or less original companies aren't producing good products. I am sure there are many European Candy Hoovers that could outperform some TTI Hoovers...
In truth, I am a loyal fan of the Eureka Williams company that no longer exists. But I am willing to give Electrolux credit for producing some great little vacuums, like my wonderful little Electrolux UltraSilencer Green imported from an Electrolux factory in Hungary. I challenge Aerus to produce a little powerful and quiet canister vac like that one for under $400 which is what I paid for it.
kirbyloverdan
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Well Brian
we here in America we call our Aerus Vacuums the "Real" Electrolux as we have yet to find a "New" Electrolux last over 50 years plus as my family still own and use today .
Like I said to each his own : ) Aerus here in the US is not known for building and selling "Inexpensive" vacuums . Im sure if they decided to go that route they could but thats not what they do : )
Most of us that know vacuums are not fans of the New Electrolux vacuums and its hard to go into a WalMart and see the Same brushroll and Attachments on a $59.00 Eureka and then go to Home Depot and see the Same Brush roll and attachments on an Electrolux selling for $400.00 .
I too miss the Eureka williams company the "Real" Eureka IMO also : )
we here in America we call our Aerus Vacuums the "Real" Electrolux as we have yet to find a "New" Electrolux last over 50 years plus as my family still own and use today .
Like I said to each his own : ) Aerus here in the US is not known for building and selling "Inexpensive" vacuums . Im sure if they decided to go that route they could but thats not what they do : )
Most of us that know vacuums are not fans of the New Electrolux vacuums and its hard to go into a WalMart and see the Same brushroll and Attachments on a $59.00 Eureka and then go to Home Depot and see the Same Brush roll and attachments on an Electrolux selling for $400.00 .
I too miss the Eureka williams company the "Real" Eureka IMO also : )
Not only wouldn't they last fifty years, but wouldn't have the same great horsehair tools, wouldn't deliver supplies and bags to your home personally, wouldn't come to your home to service your vac if needed and would pick up and rede liver your vac and leave a loner it ever couldn't be serviced in your home.
aeoliandave
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Dan, I agree. great Quality made vacuum cleaner. They really have paid attention to detail with this machine, it is worth every penny - a bargain even - and if I was in the market for a brand new 2013 vacuum canister this would be my choice over a Miele or other high end machine.
As an engineer I am impressed and satisfied with its design, versatility and robust construction. Plus it looks real good and purposeful.
Dave
As an engineer I am impressed and satisfied with its design, versatility and robust construction. Plus it looks real good and purposeful.
Dave
kirbyloverdan
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Mike and Dave
you guys hit the nail on the head . This is what we expect and are used to from our Aerus/Electrolux Vacuums . QUALITY decades long lasting well Built Vacuum Cleaners !
you guys hit the nail on the head . This is what we expect and are used to from our Aerus/Electrolux Vacuums . QUALITY decades long lasting well Built Vacuum Cleaners !
electromatik
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What great vacs. My ONLY issue with Aerus uprights is the lack of on board attachments. It wouldn't kill them to put them on board and attach the hose. Love the new Platinum.
electromatik
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By the way, Aerus has updated it's website and features a lengthy video about the Platinum and it's features. It appears more advanced than I thought. Apparently in "Automatic" mode it adjusts it's suction itself based upon the dirt it's picking up.
kirbyloverdan
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Christopher
the attachments clip between the the hose and the wands just like the TriStar vacuums .
Yes this machine is very advanced compared to many other vacuums out there .
the attachments clip between the the hose and the wands just like the TriStar vacuums .
Yes this machine is very advanced compared to many other vacuums out there .
electromatik
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To be totally fair, the "real" electrolux doesn't exist. The original tank was invented by Axel Wenner-Gren, and he contracted it's manufacture. He called it a Lux at first. The ancestor of original vacuum is Lux International, not Electrolux AB.
electromatik
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Oh sorry Dan I meant the Guardian Upright. I wish they had on board attachments. I wish I had the money to buy one.
kirbyloverdan
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Christopher
The Aerus Lux 4000 and 6000 had tools on board I own a 4000 .
Aerus said customers did not like tools on board I find that hard to belive .
Very Interesting Lux international is a part of Aerus .
The Aerus Lux 4000 and 6000 had tools on board I own a 4000 .
Aerus said customers did not like tools on board I find that hard to belive .
Very Interesting Lux international is a part of Aerus .
electromatik
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I don't believe that either. That's Aerus' problem recently-arrogance. They want to tell consumers what they should want, instead of providing what they want. Most people love having everything handy. I knew Aerus use to have a built on hose and stuff. They say they sold the design to another company called ProTeam. I bet the new upright will be incredible if it's anything like the canister.
mark40511
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On board attachments
Aerus said their customers didn't like on board attachments??????
Well, I'm not one of them! I love my Epic 6500 but if there is one thing I can't stand, it's that there is no where to store the floor brush. I have it basically lying on the top as I vacuum and it falls and I have to pick it back up as I go. The whole point of quick disconnect is to have the attachments right there with you when you want go from carpeted to non-carpeted. When I first got this machine (which is my first and only Electrolux so far), other than my short lived experience with the Renaissance, I was pretty shocked there was no place for the floor tool, yet there is a place for the dusting brush and crevice tool.
Aerus said their customers didn't like on board attachments??????
Well, I'm not one of them! I love my Epic 6500 but if there is one thing I can't stand, it's that there is no where to store the floor brush. I have it basically lying on the top as I vacuum and it falls and I have to pick it back up as I go. The whole point of quick disconnect is to have the attachments right there with you when you want go from carpeted to non-carpeted. When I first got this machine (which is my first and only Electrolux so far), other than my short lived experience with the Renaissance, I was pretty shocked there was no place for the floor tool, yet there is a place for the dusting brush and crevice tool.
kirbyloverdan
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Mark
to solve your no place to put the Floor brush problem .
I always get another set of wands and keep the floor tool attached to that and I
hang it in the closet or you can just stand it somewhere .
Christopher , I here the new upright will follow the Guardian Platinum foot steps .
to solve your no place to put the Floor brush problem .
I always get another set of wands and keep the floor tool attached to that and I
hang it in the closet or you can just stand it somewhere .
Christopher , I here the new upright will follow the Guardian Platinum foot steps .
A little online research and....
The Platinum is basically a re-badged Sauber Intelligence sold in Australia. Also, Lux International seems to be the parent company, which probably holds the patents to design. Interesting, I guess Aerus LLC needed some ideas from Europe. By the way Aerus needs to fix its Shop Now/Buy Now part of the website...it lacks many parts, bags and filters for the new machines. Somebody in the IT department is falling asleep!!!
The Platinum is basically a re-badged Sauber Intelligence sold in Australia. Also, Lux International seems to be the parent company, which probably holds the patents to design. Interesting, I guess Aerus LLC needed some ideas from Europe. By the way Aerus needs to fix its Shop Now/Buy Now part of the website...it lacks many parts, bags and filters for the new machines. Somebody in the IT department is falling asleep!!!
