My latest aqcuisition - Hoover Ranger

[jmurray01]

NO NO NO! Genuine belts too.

I had a Genuine Hoover belt in my Ranger from January to August and it was still fine when I removed it but I decided to replace it just for good measure.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Jamie, is your Ranger a top fill tube or bottom fill? mine is the bottom fill tube with tight rubber band to hold the bag on. I am wondering if the U4014 was a top fill bag, whereas the 4002 was bottom fill. Its got a cheapo bag in it at the moment, do I need the Hoover H1 type bags? and the V5 belts?

 

[jmurray01]

Here is the complete brush roll for sale:


http://www.kencospares.com/inventory/brl08-brushroll-agitator-complete-hoover.html

 

[jmurray01]

And Bellow:

http://www.vacuumcleanersparesuk.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_HOOVERm.html

 

[jmurray01]

Mine is top fill.

Yes - H1 bags and V5 belts!

 

[gottahaveahoove]

The owner's manual

(leaflet) over there.... clearly states: For optimim perfoemance, it is impearative that you use only GEHUINE HOOVER parts.
They really DO make the world of difference. Non-HOOVER belts were used in a Convertible, and, it strained too much, etc...it was NEVER the same, again. THe Converyible was named that way because ,:All you have to do is insert the attachments and the motor clicks into high-speed. It "converts" into an above the floor cleaner. Thus....CONVERTIBLE. The Dial A Matic was a bit different. You could insert the hose to clean above the floor. But, THe DIAL set the suction strength. There were different strength for FLOOR cleaning, OR for TOOL use. You simply turned the DIAL. There is "lesson ONE' in American HOOVER. Quiz tomorrow, lol.
John

 

[gottahaveahoove]

bad spelling,

sorry, Arthur is on my lap. (Arthur is one of my cats, in case you were wondering about that).

 

[madabouthoovers]

Ah, right - I found that little switch on the underside when pushed it speeds up the motor to 600W - so thats what the "convertible means" my Kirby does this as well, speeds up the motor when the hose is locked onto the front.
Thanks for the links Jamie - have bookmarked them.

For the bit extra they cost, I'll order the Genuine bags and belts. Have found these bulbs (link) would they fit?

http://www.thelightbulb.co.uk/produ...SBC-B15-Small-Bayonet-Cap-Clear-Pygmy/i-15406

 

[jmurray01]

While you're posting a picture of that Ranger, upload one of Arthur too, I love cats.

Here is mine, now you show me yours!

 

[jmurray01]

Yep those are the bulbs.

 

[tommymilan]

To my experience Mod U 4002 was bottom fill and Mod U 4014 was top fill, the same top filling system as that used in later juniors, taking the same bags as previous models. the only other version of the "ranger" vacs was the commercial, grey with huge reusable cloth bag and later in the early eighties, mod U 4197 with USA top fill system (it was was a USA made vac) red hood , white handle and greyish plaid like bag with red details. See links!
Best Regards,
Tommy

 

[madabouthoovers]

I thought it might have been something to do with Top or Bottom fill bags - I dont know which type is more efficient, obviously most clean fan vacs top fill now, so a bottom fill bag is a novelty for me.
Bags and belts ordered here:
(good value postage at only 89p)
Will go to lighting shop tomorrow to get bulbs as I aint paying stupid postage for snail mail to smash em during postage.

http://www.buydustbags.co.uk/hoover...792,45785:495370&refine=bag&model_ref=1222111

 

[jmurray01]

Here is a picture from an eBay listing last year showing that the U4002 does indeed have the hood and bag that yours has which is original.

 

[vacbear58]

Actually

While Steve's 4002 does appear to be all original, the one in the picture above has a replacement bag


 


Steve, your 4002 does seem to be in very good condition and you are lucky that the cable hooks are both intact - these often get damaged or broken off all together. The headlamp lens would have originally been white, the discolouration of yours is very common with this model  - either the lens changes colour of its own accord or the colour bleeds in from the surronding hood.


 


Whatever, its a very nice find you have there


 


Al

 

[jmurray01]

So sorry, yes that does have a replacement bag.

I wasn't paying attention when I posted that, it was a spur of the moment thing.

So the lens would have been white (like my U4014) when new ? I presume the U4014 had a better quality lens then that didn't discolour ?

I know what you mean about the cord hooks. My top cord hook is fine, but the bottom one has a chip which leaves a jagged edge that I almost always scrape my hand on while wrapping the flex around the hooks after use.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Went to Asda today and found these SBC halogen bulbs, and they fit in the ranger well - remains to be seen how long they last though with all the vibration that they get when the Ranger is running. They are 28W and £2 for 2. Give a good light from the front of the Ranger too!

 

[madabouthoovers]

Here is a pic of the Ranger with the bulb fitted:

 

[madabouthoovers]

The light is not as bright as the photo shows - I turned the flash off on the camera, so its a bit brighter than in reality - but I am really pleased with the result, as the only Pygmy bulbs I could find in SBC were only 15W. I got some of these as well, in case the halogen ones blow very quickly. I know you can get 25W pygmy bulbs on Ebay but I dont trust postal companies to get them to me without breaking them, and you just dont know the quality of cheap bulbs on Ebay either!

 

[jmurray01]

Wow, that's bright!

My Ranger just has the standard fridge size lamp rated at 25W.

Bright enough for me, but I may consider upgrading some day after seeing that.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Jamie, honestly its not as bright as the photo, but the bulb has a much shorter , thicker filament than a standard pygmy, so I was thinking it might be more resilient to vibration. I wont be using the Ranger as a daily driver anyhow, as I vac every day having 2 cats, but I will post back on the subject if the bulb does die prematurely. On the subject of the hoover symbol, I have removed it, and re-stuck it with superglue, in a better position: