My first stereo
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nycwriter
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OMG ...
"Most of the few RR tapes I have came from radio stations-most are full of commercials sent by clients to be broadcast.The commercials would be transferred from the reels to carts."
OMG this was me in one of my first jobs in radio (KDKA in Pittsburgh)
ALL the commercials came in on reels. When I worked in "traffic" and "continuity", I had to listen to all of them, time them, make sure there were no editorial issues, and then send them down to production.
When I worked in production, I'd transfer each of them to their own cart (short for "cartridge" -- which were nearly identical to 8-track tapes, but only held enough tape inside for 30 seconds, 60 seconds, 2:30, etc.). They were a marvelous invention, really: pop it in, hit play, and it would automatically cue up to the beginning after each play.
With the exception of hour-long pretaped shows, KDKA put EVERYTHING on carts, even (when it still played music), songs.
"Most of the few RR tapes I have came from radio stations-most are full of commercials sent by clients to be broadcast.The commercials would be transferred from the reels to carts."
OMG this was me in one of my first jobs in radio (KDKA in Pittsburgh)
ALL the commercials came in on reels. When I worked in "traffic" and "continuity", I had to listen to all of them, time them, make sure there were no editorial issues, and then send them down to production.
When I worked in production, I'd transfer each of them to their own cart (short for "cartridge" -- which were nearly identical to 8-track tapes, but only held enough tape inside for 30 seconds, 60 seconds, 2:30, etc.). They were a marvelous invention, really: pop it in, hit play, and it would automatically cue up to the beginning after each play.
With the exception of hour-long pretaped shows, KDKA put EVERYTHING on carts, even (when it still played music), songs.
KOOL!!!Another KDKA man.At the VOA plant in Wash DC,there were a few guys that used to work there.Carts and cart machines-yes they were geat things-but alas-now carts are antiques.Glad I have a few cart machines in my equipment collection.One of my jobs while manning a transmitter site for a station in DC was to rebuild carts for the station and others sent in from other company owned stations.Got real good at it-even better than some of the commercial cart rebuild services!Now-if a cart didn't recue-Q tone not recorded on the tape at proper level.Most common--bad caps on the Q-board.Replace and no more "ring around the rosie!"For a long period of time-most of the airplay material was recorded on "carts"--DJ's loved them-or could it be "Cart-J's"?And program automation systems liked carts.But digital has taken all of the fun out of radio!!
nycwriter
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Amen, Rex!
I hate digital.
I hate digital.
Matt: I hate digital for the most part-but guess us analog guys are going to have to learn to live with digital.Cinema operators-some are saying the same thing when they replace their film projectors with digital ones.Hollywood has jumpted on digital now-no more film-the film labs are broken up-so no more motion pictures going to be relased on 35MM film format.All going to Digital Cinema Packages now-a hard drive instead of reels of film.And after the theater has loaded the DCP into their server-they get a KDM(Key Display Message) to allow them to play back the film they loaded-this is to prevent "copying-piracy"The DCP also includes trailers meant to be played back with that movie.The projectionist can select among the ones they want to play.The KDM's are only good for a set period of time-if the theater needs a longer time after booking the film-he requests the studio to send another KDM.
Joe!
I bought that EXACT same model Capeheart!! It was $39.00.(42.00 w/tax) I loved that thing.
I bought that EXACT same model Capeheart!! It was $39.00.(42.00 w/tax) I loved that thing.
Mike,Matt:Used to have a Scott LK48 stereo tube intergrated amp I bought from the trade in pile at McGuires Hi-Fi in Wash DC.The amp got lost in the Rapid City Flood of 1972.Loved that amp-indeed the sound from such a low powered amp was strong ,clean,powerful.Scotts secret was abnormally large output transformers in the output stage.The bass response was amazing for an amp that was only 24W per channel.combine it with high effiency speakers and you are in Hi-fi heaven!Would so love to run into another one of those amp---but alas the ones I have seen in some Hi-fi catalogs are over 2 grand!I bought mine for only 50 bucks in 1972!!Was the best 50 buck Hi-Fi purchase I EVER made!!!So miss that thing!!!Yes,records did sound so real played over that Scott-used it with a pair of Karlson speaker cabinets that contained Philips coax speakers!NICE-the speakers were lost,too.Bought them locally from one of my Dads freinds in Rapid City.He bought new speakers.Was less than what I paid for the Scott Amp.Used it with a PE turntable.
I still have 2 or those BIG Caliphones
and 2 SUPER Bogens.... Helen Keller could hear them (yesterday was her b day). I used them in ther dance studio in Philly., You could jack a discman into them, a boombox, loads of things that wereen;t even invented when these machines were made.
I'll post pics soon.
and 2 SUPER Bogens.... Helen Keller could hear them (yesterday was her b day). I used them in ther dance studio in Philly., You could jack a discman into them, a boombox, loads of things that wereen;t even invented when these machines were made.
I'll post pics soon.
nycwriter
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When I said digital ...
I meant digital, not necessarily dinging SOLID STATE.
I have to admit, after hearing side-by-side demos of tube amps versus solid state (with the signal coming from a vinyl record via a Pickering cartridge on a BIC turntable), I do detect a slight difference.
It's hard for me to describe, but somehow the tube signal sounds "warmer", but the Solid State (which incidentally was a classic Kenwood KA-7100) to my ears sounded more dynamic, and in many cases, preferable.
I chalk it up to the analog Solid State being what *I* grew up listening to.
My dad, however, grew up listening to tube amps and likes that "warmer" sound.
I meant digital, not necessarily dinging SOLID STATE.
I have to admit, after hearing side-by-side demos of tube amps versus solid state (with the signal coming from a vinyl record via a Pickering cartridge on a BIC turntable), I do detect a slight difference.
It's hard for me to describe, but somehow the tube signal sounds "warmer", but the Solid State (which incidentally was a classic Kenwood KA-7100) to my ears sounded more dynamic, and in many cases, preferable.
I chalk it up to the analog Solid State being what *I* grew up listening to.
My dad, however, grew up listening to tube amps and likes that "warmer" sound.
suckolux
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Oh Matt, I forgot what a young puppy you were! Stereos!!
I like the warmer-cleaner tubed sounds--what I grew up with.Both my Dad and Mom had tubed Hi-Fi systems.I listened for myself--McIntosh MC60 vs Dynaco Stereo 400-the "Macs" won!!Just better,CLEANER sound.Right now I am using an Onkyo receiver-very happy with it-one of the few SS amps I have liked.My "Macs" need new filter caps and so far haven't been able to find any.
d-jones
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Believe it or not this is my second stereo, and I only picked it up about eight years ago. My first stereo was an entry level JVC component system that I purchased in 1980 in Killeen Texas while serving in the military, but another guy in the barraks felt he deserved it more than I did so the whole thing disappeared one evening a couple of years later. I didn't bother with another until I got the Pioneer you see here.
kirbyds80
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I've never came across a childhood Item...
But I would like to get ahold of either a PowerMacintosh 6100, 7100, or 8100. Not only because they're a classic piece of Mac, but because they all came out March 1994 which is my birth year.
-Jay
But I would like to get ahold of either a PowerMacintosh 6100, 7100, or 8100. Not only because they're a classic piece of Mac, but because they all came out March 1994 which is my birth year.
-Jay
nycwriter
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DAVID!!!
Is that ... is that ... is that ... the HOLY GRAIL of stereo receivers?? The Pioneer SX-1980?????
Is that ... is that ... is that ... the HOLY GRAIL of stereo receivers?? The Pioneer SX-1980?????
d-jones
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Sorry to disappoint you Matt
But this one is two levels lower. It's an SX-1080. Above it in the line up were the SX-1280 and then of course as you mentioned, the ultimate Pioneer reciever - the SX-1980. I thought seriously about buying the 1980, but decided all that power(and extra cost) would have been wasted on me. This one suits me just fine, functional work of art that it is. You just gotta love the quality of some of the equipment from this period.
But this one is two levels lower. It's an SX-1080. Above it in the line up were the SX-1280 and then of course as you mentioned, the ultimate Pioneer reciever - the SX-1980. I thought seriously about buying the 1980, but decided all that power(and extra cost) would have been wasted on me. This one suits me just fine, functional work of art that it is. You just gotta love the quality of some of the equipment from this period.
nycwriter
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but ...
... the 1080 is essentially a clone of the 1980 but without the extra couple hundred watts of power, right?
... the 1080 is essentially a clone of the 1980 but without the extra couple hundred watts of power, right?
d-jones
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Along with the extra power there are a handful of addition functions on both the 1280 and the 1980 that my 1080 doesn't have. Back when I was researching which one I should buy I could have told you what those extra functions were, but too much time has passed now and I'm afraid I'm drawing a blank. Just for comparison you can see what the 1280 and 1980 look like in the links below, but the site doesn't really provide any detailed information about them.
http://classicreceivers.com/pioneer-sx-1280
http://classicreceivers.com/pioneer-sx-1980
I'm sure there are folks on this blog that could offer more usefull information on these guys. Maybe one of them will chime in here.
http://classicreceivers.com/pioneer-sx-1280
http://classicreceivers.com/pioneer-sx-1980
I'm sure there are folks on this blog that could offer more usefull information on these guys. Maybe one of them will chime in here.
electroluxxxx
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the 1280 and the 1980 were alot alike looks wise and were very similar with features. I own the sx-780 and love it. I however have been after a 1980 for a very long time but do not want to afford the Price tag that comes with it. Pioneer was in my opinion one of the best companies at the time offering everything people wanted. I own along with the 780 a pair of hpm 100's and two pairs of hpm 60s, with the CS-77A speakers.
the 780 runs the HPM-60s and the 100's are on a rotel. The cs-77a's do not get used. For some reason they are not as clear and detailed as the HPM speakers. I am a MAJOR Pioneer Nut and will agree with you on the fact that nothing is made like it used to be. Even Sansui back then was not as reliable as the good Ol' pioneer equipment.
the 780 runs the HPM-60s and the 100's are on a rotel. The cs-77a's do not get used. For some reason they are not as clear and detailed as the HPM speakers. I am a MAJOR Pioneer Nut and will agree with you on the fact that nothing is made like it used to be. Even Sansui back then was not as reliable as the good Ol' pioneer equipment.
super-sweeper
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speaking of RR tapes,
I just dug a bunch of them from a thrift shop dumpster! All the way from 1959 (one tape is dated June 15th 1959!!!!). One tape might have some cool stuff (entitled 'FM Recordings'). The others, not so much! 2 tapes are hopefully blank, they're not titled! Brand include Knight, Scotch, Radec, some tapes with no brand visible, but a phrase saying ' when quality counts, use the tape with the pure tone', and Sears, with mentioning of Simpson-Sears!!!! There was more in the dumpster, I ran off with all the tapes I could fit in my stretched out arms! If there's any left, guess who's running off with more tapes? Now, to find a recorder!
I just dug a bunch of them from a thrift shop dumpster! All the way from 1959 (one tape is dated June 15th 1959!!!!). One tape might have some cool stuff (entitled 'FM Recordings'). The others, not so much! 2 tapes are hopefully blank, they're not titled! Brand include Knight, Scotch, Radec, some tapes with no brand visible, but a phrase saying ' when quality counts, use the tape with the pure tone', and Sears, with mentioning of Simpson-Sears!!!! There was more in the dumpster, I ran off with all the tapes I could fit in my stretched out arms! If there's any left, guess who's running off with more tapes? Now, to find a recorder!
I have a reel to reel tape deck
It's a Magnavox. Not the best, but not bad either. I used to have a nice Sony deck several years ago. I loved that thing. I used to buy albums and record them to tape and put the album away. I need a takeup reel and tape for my current machine. I was hoping my local Radio Shack would have something hiding in the corner collecting dust, but no such luck.
It's a Magnavox. Not the best, but not bad either. I used to have a nice Sony deck several years ago. I loved that thing. I used to buy albums and record them to tape and put the album away. I need a takeup reel and tape for my current machine. I was hoping my local Radio Shack would have something hiding in the corner collecting dust, but no such luck.
Good for you, Super-Sweeper!
I hate to think what thrift shop morons throw away. I got some less than stellar home recordings on one or two tapes I bought, from 1957 and '58. Check your Craigslist up there for recorders!
Magnavox tape recorders were sourced out, but Collaro (the Magnavox changer source) made them for a few years. Sanyo made some of the portable reel to reels. Panasonic made the smaller of the two 7 inch reel recorders, the really grand looking one, I'm not sure. Magnavox was mostly a middle of the road company, not garbage, but not the upper echelon gear the stereo snobs craved.
I hate to think what thrift shop morons throw away. I got some less than stellar home recordings on one or two tapes I bought, from 1957 and '58. Check your Craigslist up there for recorders!
Magnavox tape recorders were sourced out, but Collaro (the Magnavox changer source) made them for a few years. Sanyo made some of the portable reel to reels. Panasonic made the smaller of the two 7 inch reel recorders, the really grand looking one, I'm not sure. Magnavox was mostly a middle of the road company, not garbage, but not the upper echelon gear the stereo snobs craved.
paulg
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A suggestion
If you're looking for an open-reel tape recorder consider one made by VM / The Voice of Music.
Many key parts are still available. Visit "thevoiceofmusic.com".
In 1998, Gary, me (and a few others) pulled the remaining parts out of the crumbling VM factory over the course of a number of visits. Gary purchased the parts and opened the website "thevoiceofmusic.com".
So if you need phonograph parts of any type, even non-VM parts, you must give Gary a call. VM tape recorders and VM-made phonographs are often returned to operation using Gary's parts stock.
If you're looking for an open-reel tape recorder consider one made by VM / The Voice of Music.
Many key parts are still available. Visit "thevoiceofmusic.com".
In 1998, Gary, me (and a few others) pulled the remaining parts out of the crumbling VM factory over the course of a number of visits. Gary purchased the parts and opened the website "thevoiceofmusic.com".
So if you need phonograph parts of any type, even non-VM parts, you must give Gary a call. VM tape recorders and VM-made phonographs are often returned to operation using Gary's parts stock.
nycwriter
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I remember ...
... those JVC tape decks!
I had one in the '80s.
I never cared for the LEDs replacing VU meters; they seemed so much more imprecise.
... those JVC tape decks!
I had one in the '80s.
I never cared for the LEDs replacing VU meters; they seemed so much more imprecise.
I had a Denon deck, but it was awful. It only recorded through one channel, the door wouldn't shut right, and it was just a hassle. I got this one at Goodwill for about $10. It plays and records beautifully! I still listen to tapes on a regular basis.
super-sweeper
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Oh dear,
Rotary phones, tape decks and VHS! It's a clone of my bedroom!
Do those phones work? Those are Western Electric 300s, are they?
Rotary phones, tape decks and VHS! It's a clone of my bedroom!
Do those phones work? Those are Western Electric 300s, are they?
super-sweeper
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Betamax!
That's right,I saw that in another thread! But I have a 8mm PROJECTOR! I am the king of old formats!
That's right,I saw that in another thread! But I have a 8mm PROJECTOR! I am the king of old formats!
Gr8DaneDad
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LOL.. I still have a Betamax, 8mm projector and camera and a 16mm projector. Have 100's of home movies in 8mm from my childhood and a dozen or so 16 mm films. Mostly education/history/National Geographic in content. I also have a Brownie camera from my misbegotten youth.
