gj3476
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Gottahaveahoover, do u know what month and year my Deluxe Convertible was made in? Thank u
My 1st True Classic Deluxe Convertible!!!!
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not at the moment. But, I can narrow a lot
of it down later. I spoke w/ the expert on this about an hour ago. He did mention that yours is about 26,000 into production.
of it down later. I spoke w/ the expert on this about an hour ago. He did mention that yours is about 26,000 into production.
gj3476
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Gottahaveahoover, 26,000 in production, I’m guessing ‘75?
real1shep
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I have Pliobond and have used it outdoors for a number of projects. I glued some adapter plates to existing speakers for a auto install....metal to metal. They categorically failed in that application in about a yr.
It might be just the ticket though for plastic/rubber insulation on handles. It does just OK bonding with many materials. I certainly don't rate it high as a wonder adhesive.....depends on the scenario. In fact many of the things they promote that it glues 'great' are better served with other adhesives.
Kevin
It might be just the ticket though for plastic/rubber insulation on handles. It does just OK bonding with many materials. I certainly don't rate it high as a wonder adhesive.....depends on the scenario. In fact many of the things they promote that it glues 'great' are better served with other adhesives.
Kevin
huskyvacs
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Gorilla Glue needs to have the two parts where the glue will be applied to be moistened before gluing, and held in place overnight. Obviously, like any glue, you cannot glue two parts together that will undergo stress, and parts that are not porous.
I used it to re-glue a clay flowerpot back together that shattered into about 60 pieces and then used a hobby knife to scrape off the foam "overspray" and rubbed a scrap piece of clay into the glue marks and although it's obvious it's been reglued, it holds together nicely and has had about 60 lbs of dirt in it for over a year and not had any issues.
I don't see any need that would arise where you would have to get into the inside of the handle so I'd just glue the rubber on there. Look for a glue that can bond to nonporus surfaces like polished metal, and also that will not eat away rubber. I know your off the shelf superglue can eat through rubber due to the chemical composition of it.
I am not sure if it will work with this, but with some types of rubber you can just heat it up in a bowl of water in the microwave for a few seconds and it will shrink a bit, which you can slide it back onto the handle no glue needed. It would be worth looking into if nothing else works.
I used it to re-glue a clay flowerpot back together that shattered into about 60 pieces and then used a hobby knife to scrape off the foam "overspray" and rubbed a scrap piece of clay into the glue marks and although it's obvious it's been reglued, it holds together nicely and has had about 60 lbs of dirt in it for over a year and not had any issues.
I don't see any need that would arise where you would have to get into the inside of the handle so I'd just glue the rubber on there. Look for a glue that can bond to nonporus surfaces like polished metal, and also that will not eat away rubber. I know your off the shelf superglue can eat through rubber due to the chemical composition of it.
I am not sure if it will work with this, but with some types of rubber you can just heat it up in a bowl of water in the microwave for a few seconds and it will shrink a bit, which you can slide it back onto the handle no glue needed. It would be worth looking into if nothing else works.
real1shep
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I used Gorilla glue on a tool handle...break over bar. Lasted about a yr of use and came off like it had never been glued and surprisingly almost no residue (where did it go?). Plastic/rubber on metal.
Kevin
Kevin
huskyvacs
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I had to google what a "break over bar" was, and I will say that a year of use is a great lifetime for gluing something like that! Glue is never permanent, especially on tools, as they go through a lot of flexing and shifting in their use that it will break the glue bond, it's only meant for temporary fix until you can replace it. A socket adapter takes a lot of torque and twisting, no glue would hold up to that, it's an instance where you'd just have to replace it rather than keep re-gluing it all the time. Those things are really cheap, I think the bottle of glue costs more than a new tool, lol
real1shep
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Long break over bars for 1/2" sockets are $40+ new......good ones. Look on eBay for Snap On, Craftsman, Williams, SK etc for used ones. Mine is an SK...most don't have insulated handles, but I sort of like the design of having an insulated handle. And it's unlikely you'll ever have the plastic/rubber handle come off unless the tool was made in China or the handle was bonded improperly originally. It's not a common scenario as you surmised.
And I don't use the tool everyday....actually infrequent use, but it does stay in outside temps in storage. When I do use it, it's used hard as designed for its leverage, so when you reach for it, you need more applied torque than from a short rachet handle.
I have very expensive tools I work with on a regular basis that have the insulation come off the handles. I see the same tools on eBay with their insulation intact. So either the sellers are lying or this is not as common as one might think.
I'm just looking for a durable adhesive that lasts to hard work and sharing my findings on what hasn't worked for me. You can't undo my experiences of 50+ yrs with the wave of a wand or a Google 'search'.
Kevin
And I don't use the tool everyday....actually infrequent use, but it does stay in outside temps in storage. When I do use it, it's used hard as designed for its leverage, so when you reach for it, you need more applied torque than from a short rachet handle.
I have very expensive tools I work with on a regular basis that have the insulation come off the handles. I see the same tools on eBay with their insulation intact. So either the sellers are lying or this is not as common as one might think.
I'm just looking for a durable adhesive that lasts to hard work and sharing my findings on what hasn't worked for me. You can't undo my experiences of 50+ yrs with the wave of a wand or a Google 'search'.
Kevin
kirbyvertibles
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Very nice!!
These came out somewhere between 73-75 ish
26,000 off the line means it's fairly early production I would say but I am NOT an expert. If you look up in the forum search and type in maybe convertible list you will pull up a post with a list of all the metal Convertibles and their info
That white design on the bag is called a Filigree pattern.
These came out somewhere between 73-75 ish
26,000 off the line means it's fairly early production I would say but I am NOT an expert. If you look up in the forum search and type in maybe convertible list you will pull up a post with a list of all the metal Convertibles and their info
That white design on the bag is called a Filigree pattern.
gj3476
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Fairly early production? Wow I guess I found a piece of great treasure!!!
kirbyvertibles
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Yes early when you consider they might have made 100,000 units.
gj3476
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Yesterday I washed the hood and vinyl bag in the bathtub with dawn soap and my moms homemade cleaning spray, and shined up the hood with mother’s polish cream and it looks not bad. And I used super glue for the handle grip, and it also needed a new belt. I still haven’t figured out the problem with the height adjustment.
kirbyvertibles
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Looks very nice!!! This is one that I still need to find a decent example of for my collection. I have one but she is rough and has replacement bag.
vac-o-matic
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Filigree?
I have that model as well, nice machine, and you did a good job cleaning it up! I think it was the collector I received it from that told me the design on the bag was called fleur-de-lis. French I suppose..lol. Pronounced fler-de-lee. Not nit picking here, just passing some info along..lol.
I have that model as well, nice machine, and you did a good job cleaning it up! I think it was the collector I received it from that told me the design on the bag was called fleur-de-lis. French I suppose..lol. Pronounced fler-de-lee. Not nit picking here, just passing some info along..lol.
