Model 903 Electro-Hygeine

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Hey Roger,

Thx for the pics of your 888. It looks really cool with the hose attached! I have never seen that!! What kind of suction power does it have with the attachments?

Royal may have been "imitating" the Kirby with this model, but there's no contest in terms of the quality of the attachments! That Royal hose is one of the most durable hoses ever made, and look at how excellent the steel wands and aluminum attachments are.

To Kirby's defense, I will note something that many people may not realize. They were very much advanced and ahead of their time when in 1948 they introduced the new gray plastic attachments nade of Dupont resins. (Prior to that, the Kirby wands were made of rubberized fiber -- that same material that early Electrolux crevice tools were made of.)

I have an article cir. 1950 from a magazine called "Plastics Engineering" or something like that, that tells all about the innovative uses the Scott & Fetzer has put this new wonder material to! The attachments were, in comparison to other brands, light weight, easy to use, and fairly durable.

Over the ensuing years, as plastic started getting a bad rap and indeed the word "plastic" coming to actually mean "cheap," Kirby's attachments lost their initial appeal. And as time went by, they got even cheesier and cheaper. Look at the junky attachments that came with the Generation series! Just awful crap! Especially for a Two Thousand Dollar vacuum cleaner. (Have they no shame?!)
 
Gregg and Roger,

Both of your machines (Gregg's 980 Electro-Hygiene and Roger's 888 Royal) are mid 70's models. And although I used to sell Electro-Hygiene, Gregg's is the FIRST 980 I've ever seen! When I went back to work for Electro-Hygiene in 1976, we were selling a machine called the GALAXIE PRESTIGE model 990, which was a carbon copy of Roger's 888, except the blue bag had red printing instead of dark blue, and said Galaxie Prestige instead of Royal Prestige. It was a new model at the time. We didn't have the EH 980 at our store, but obviously they were available then, or maybe a year or 2 later.
But all 3 were top of the line at the time, and if I remember right, the Galaxie, complete with attachments, sprayer, and accessories to convert it to a portable, went for $389.95. I wish I would have bought one back then, but I do have the sales manual for it.
Jeff
 
Charles,
I had a Royal a few years ago that had a blue hammertone motor case. The front was polished as was the fan case. It had a dark blue bag.....if I remember correctly the name royal was in red and there were some short silver stripes somewhere on the front of the bag. I think the model number was 602. It did have a headlight but not the flip up kind....the cover was fixed...hard to put a bulb in. the belt cover was just plain sivler on mine....a replacement maybe? I no longer have it or I would post pics for you.
 
Roger,

Yes, that's exactly the one! Although, I am certain my uncle's machine had a red belt cover plate. Red pastic with white lettering but I don't remember what the lettering said.

Mind you, I am not really looking for one as I am not a huge Royal fan (nothing personal to the Royal fanatics!), I'd just like to see photos of one.
 
ive seen that very model on eBay more than once, Charles. i have an Electro Hygiene model 603 and it too has a painted motor (hammertone grey). has the more rounded nozzle, which the Royals you talk about had as well.
 
A 603 Electro-Hygiene?

That's yet another model I've never seen. I'd like to see a picture of that one. By description it sounds similar to the model 285 from the late 50's or early 60's. Did it also have the fixed headlight hood? Toss-out bags, or shakeout, and what color was the outer bag? I'm assuming either light or dark blue with red & gold printing, or possibly white cloth with red and silver printing. I'm also assuming this one is from mid 60's, after the 285 but before the 903.
And Charles, I'm sorry I didn't get back to you on the Royal with the blue motor housing. I have seen them before, but not many. There was one on ebay not too long ago and it was about a half hour away from me in Ashland, OH, and if I remember right it went fairly cheap. Think I was either away from home orsomeone else was on the computer when the auction closed, or I might have bought it myself.
Jeff
 
Hygiene903, you mentioned that you worked for Electro-Hygiene in 1976. I didn't realize they were still around even then. Do you know how long they ultimately were around?
 
Scott,

I believe it was about 1981 or 1982 when they bit the dust. And if I'm not mistaken, they ran into some trouble with the government about some of their business practices, including banning them from doing their own financing. Also under attack was their method of getting the machines into the potential customer's home, which was similar to "bait & switch, but differed in the respect that we actually HAD the advertised merchandise (or as we called it, the "leader vac"), and it WAS for sale--I know this for a fact as I sold SEVERAL of the "leader vacs," much to my boss's dissapointment!
After being told they could no longer do "business as usual," they soon reached a point where they could not do business at all, and went out of business, and that was about 1981 or 82. However, to this day there is still a store in Indiana and one in Ohio with Electro-Hygiene as part of the name, even though Electro-Hygiene is no longer made. I'd like to find out if they still honor the EH guarantee, as I'd like to get my 966 tank rebuilt!!
Jeff
 
Safety Switch

It just occurred to me that the reason the Royal with the removeable rug nozzle doesn't have a safety switch is because such a switch probably was patented by Scott & Fetzer.

Can you imagine a company selling a vacuum cleaner today with no such safety switch? The first dumb idiot who lost a fingertip trying to attach the hose without shutting off the machine would retain a blue-chip Product Liability attorney to file suit against the manufacturer for every penny they owned! Because OF COURSE, the fault would lie with the vacuum cleaner and not the stupid person using it!
 
Sure did!!

I never sold sewing machines when I worked for EH, but when I didn't have sales appointments I used to help out in the back room--er, I mean service department, and probably worked on as many sewing machines as vacs. The machine in the link was our cheaper model. The top of the line model had design cams that dropped in the top, automatic buttonholer, automatic knot tyer, automatic zigzag, the whole 9 yards that was available on sewing machines at the time.
And yes, I noticed that too, about the connection between sewing machines and vacuum cleaners. Quite a few stores sold both, and Singer was especially noted for it. Some stores even had sew and vac or vac and sew as part of their name. I don't think you see it as much now as back in the day.
Did you also notice that in the old catalogs (Sears, Wards, Spiegel, etc.) they even had the vacs and sewing machines on the next pages to each other?
I tried to get a thread going on this subject a while back, but I think I only got 4 or 5 replys on it.
Jeff
 
Morgan... great looking vacuum! Very retro. Very cool. Very

It looks brand new. The red cord makes it pop and the red tools look great too.

I'm excited to see so many Royal fans. (And glad to hear all the nice things everyone has to say about them. I was worried that I would be all alone.) I just purchased a new Royal Everlast MRY8300 on eBay this afternoon and can't wait to get it. It will replace the commercial Royal upright I gave away several years ago.

I'd like to get attachments to go with it, but couldn't find any mention of them on the Royal Web site. With all the Royal enthusiasts and experts here, does anyone know if attachments can even be used with the new uprights? If so, can someone suggest where to get them.

It appears that the new models still have the deodorizer feature, which sounds really cool... According to the Royal Web site, the "Deodorizer feature freshens your carpet as you vacuum." I put vacuum cleaner beads from Restoration Hardware in my Mieles. Is that sacrilege?

Mike
 
hygiene903

Jeff, thank you for your email and advising me on my Royal purchase. I'm sure by now you've read my reply. Very disappointing about the Vita-Vac. :(
 
charles~richard

Charles, great story about your uncle and his Royal. I know this is a bit off topic, but... Your story is so similar to the experiences I had as a kid with my grandmother's Kirbys. I wonder how many members can relate.

My paternal grandparents lived in a huge, old, mostly dark, Victorian farmhouse in the Northwest corner of Iowa. Some of my earliest and most vivid memories are associated with my grandmother's Kirbys and that farmhouse. They both terrified me. She kept two Kirbys in the dark, front hall, which was basically a separate room with this foreboding staircase and its big, thick banister built out of some very dark wood. The hallway and staircase were rarely used, except to get to the upstairs "guest" bedrooms. As a toddler, I was terrified of having to walk through that hall, past the Kirbys and up the stairs at bedtime. Very creepy. Even though I grew to love her Kirbys, they and that house always seemed so ominous. Creepy.
 
Air freshners in Mieles....

Mike

Unless you are just using the Super Airclean filter(the one that comes with the bags) dont bother- both the Active Airclean and Hepa filters have a charcoal element so you wont be able to smell it !

Seamus
 
SeamusUK

Hey Seamus,

Thanks for the advice.

Actually, I've been using the vacuum beads in my older Miele and I can smell them, even with the HEPA filter in place (they're pretty strong and I put a lot of beads in the bag). But, I don't want to use them if it's bad for the vacuum.

By the way, I know this is off topic... are you a Doctor Who fan? If so, send me an email offline if you're interested in discussing. I've seen season one and two of the new series, and am dying to see season three.

Mike
 
Scary Kirbys

Here's my story about my Aunt Dabney and her Scary Kirby - and below is a composite photo I made of me, her house, and a Kirby!

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... [T]he second-most prolific brand of vacuum cleaner in that area, in those days (late 1950s), was Kirby. I can think of a half-dozen families right off the top of my head who had Kirbys - mostly the machines with gray or red-and-gray trim - and I hated them. (The sweepers, not the people!) I was absolutely terrified of Kirbys, but at the same time also fascinated by them -- as long as I kept a safe distance!

My aunt up the street had a very old Kirby with a big gray bag. I was so afraid of it that I would not even go into her house on the day for vacuuming -- every Thursday. If we pulled up in the driveway and I heard it running, I would only go up to the front porch and that was all. I would watch her vacuuming through the screen door but that was as far as I would go.

She sometimes -- but not often (because she had mostly hardwood floors except for one large area rug in the living room and a few throw rugs) -- used the Kirby as an upright. I was fascinated to see that big gleaming machine glide to and fro, with her holding the handle in one hand and the cord held aloft in the other hand to keep it out of the way. She would take long, slow strokes with it, rocking back and forth on her heels as she led the machine around.

However, she favored using the Kirby as a straight-suction machine, using the hose and attachments instead of the rug nozzle -- even when cleaning her rugs! She kept the long handle attached, and I would watch with rapt attention -- from the safety of the front porch, peering through the screen door -- seeing that long handle jiggle and bob back and forth as she pulled the machine around the living room.

She also at that time had a green Eureka canister vacuum that she kept in the garage -- my uncle used it to clean his Rambler station wagon. She liked to use the rug nozzle from that machine with her Kirby - she just stuck the green nozzle with the long chrome elbow onto the end of the gray wand and used it that way on both floor and rugs. Because the length of the single wand (even though the Kirby wand was rather long) and the Eureka rug nozzle was so short, she had to stoop over a bit, and when cleaning the carpets and rugs she sort-of "scraped" away at them with the Eureka nozzle. What a lot of work! One time I asked her why she vacuumed with her Kirby that way, and she said it was just too much trouble to switch the machine around from upright to attachments!

My aunt would frequently baby-sit me when Mama had to run errands or go to the church to practice the organ. She always had to be careful about not taking me over there on Thursdays because she knew I wouldn't go inside! One time, she dropped me off when I was sick. I was all bundled up in a blanket and Mama laid me on my aunt's sofa with a pillow, telling me to stay there and "behave."

Well, it was not a Thursday, but ... it was "spring cleaning time" for my aunt. She was in the room overhead cleaning. When I heard her fire up the Kirby, I got scared and scurried under the blanket. The motor stopped and there was silence.

Whew!

But then the machine started up again, this time making a vibrating, rumbling, whirring sound against the hard-wood floor -- she was using the floor polisher head. I got so terrified that I ran off the couch, across the living room, into the dining room, and dug my way underneath a buffet table in the corner of the room, knocking over a bag of empty pop bottles in the process.

I stayed under there, crouched, trembling, and cold for what seemed to be an eternity. Finally, the sweeper stopped running. My aunt came downstairs, and when she did not see me she started calling for me. I was afraid she had the Kirby with her so I would not answer. She worked her way into the dining room where she saw the pop bottles scattered on the floor. She came over to the buffet table, crouched down and said, "Chuck, what on earth are you doing back there? Come on out of there!"

I started crying, "I'm afraid of the sweeeeee-peeer!"

Her stern look softened. She cluck-clucked her tongue and shook her head and said, "Oh, CHUCK..... I promise I won't use it any more until you leave. Why don't you come upstairs and get on my bed, so you can watch TV while you wait for your Mama -- and I can keep an eye on you!"

Reluctantly, I followed her to the stairs. I could see the Kirby towering above at the top of the landing. I held back and said, "I don't want to go up there! It might turn on!"

My aunt sighed, trudged up the stairs, unplugged the cord and waved the plug at me -- "You see, it's not plugged in. It CAN'T start up now! She pushed it against the wall so I'd have a clear path around it. "Now, be a good boy and come on up here."

Very reluctantly, I made my way up the stairs. Slowly and gingerly, I crept past the Kirby leaning against the wall. I remember very clearly seeing the floor polisher nozzle and the rows of fluffy bristles. The nozzle was much newer and shinier looking than the rest of the machine, and the red belt lifter glistened and reflected the hallway light fixture.

When I got safely past the Kirby I made a dash for her bed and jumped up. My aunt turned on the TV - the game-show "Concentration" was on. I remember seeing the rotating panels that would clickey-click into place showing pieces of the hidden puzzle!

One time, we came over there and the Kirby was standing in the living room. It looked all shiny and new-looking, but somehow I knew it was the same one. I saw that it had a different bag -- dark gray with a silver mottled pattern, and even though I was too young to read, I did know how to read "Kirby" -- and I remember the new bag that the "K" and the "Y" extended in a long line down the front of the bag and met at point at the bottom. (It was not until many years later that I would see another bag like this!) It also had a new handle, with a shiny red handle grip.

I don't remember the exact conversation but it was something along the line that my Aunt had just had it repaired, and it was not as loud any more (that was partly why I was afraid of it, because it made an absolutely deafening roar - in retrospect, caused by a chipped or broken fan blade).

She coaxed me into pushing down the switch to turn it on, and sure enough, it made a completely different sound! I was still a little afraid of it, though, and did not want it to run for a long time. But she had to use it. I did, at least, stay inside ... but still kept a safe distance!

When she was finished, she lugged it over to the closet by the front door where she kept it. I ran over to see it in the closet. I saw that the bag - new and sort of stiff - was all puffed out. I told my Aunt that she should pat the bag down flat. She said, "Well, why don't you go ahead and do that?!"

That became something I had to do every time I came over there -- open the closet to see if the bag was all puffy, and if it was, I could not rest until I patted it down flat. Don't ask me.....! (At least I did not have a bag-sniffing thing, like Stan Kann did!!)

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