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Charles or Morgan,
As we are on the subject of 500'S, would either of you know if Kirby did an up-grade of air-flow,suction after the 509 and before the 516? I thought the 500's up too the 516 where only 3 AMP motors,but I don't know about the fan blades or or RPM. on the motors. Thank You,
Russ
 
513 Pic's

Sorry Morgan,
You got me too excited with the pictures of your 513, and I lost my manners. Congrat's and thank you for the wonderful pic's!!!!!!
Russ
 
Russ,

I am not sure when Kirby may have changed the fan blade design. I have my mothers 508 and it seems to have the same suction as the 513 in the pictures. Actually it even sounds the same. The 508 has the 3amp motor as well. Charles Lester may have the answer to that question.

There are a lot of the Kirby models that did not change much as far as motor and fan, mainly just colors and attatchments and then Kirby would call it the new and improved model...go figure... same cleaning ability. I think with the 508 and the 513 you did not get a rug tool with the attatchments just the bare floor tool, not sure when they added the rug tool.

Hoover did the same thing, it really did not matter with Hoover what model you purchased, wether it was the low end or the high end, the motor was exactly the same in all models, it was just the features that changed. The cleaning ability was the sames with all.
 
Kirby Fan

If I remember correctly, I think Kirby put an improved fan in the model 515. I have a 511 and a 515, and the latter definitely has better suction.
 
Better Kirby Suction

My info corresponds with Rick Asquith, that the 515 had a more powerful motor and better suction. I don't have one handy, however, so I can't look at the serial number plate to check the amperage but it SEEMS to me it's 4 amps.

One of the biggest jumps in performance, however, was when the 516 came out. It had the same motor as the 515, but a big improvement was made in how the rug nozzle and suction coupler attaches to the machine. One the earlier ones, the suction hole was just plain metal, wire-brushed when new to make a smooth surface. However, no matter how smooth it was, there was always some suction loss. With the 516, a rubber gasket was added on the suction hole which ensured an airtight seal and, thus, much better suction.

I =believe= the same motor was used through the first Sanitronic and not "beefed up" until the Dual 50 but I may be wrong there. I will say, they all SOUND the same to me.

Just a final point about the early 500s - especially the 505 - those machines have a very musical, gentle sound. I have always liked the sound of those earlier Kirbys even though they do not perform quite as well. In my 505 in particular, the motor "sings" with two high-pitched tones that give it a very distinctive sound, especially when using the hose and attachments.
 
500 Info.

Thank you All,
I always get the best information from the members of this site!!!

You Guys never make me feel as if my questions are too "Forest Gump" to place on the forum.

Happy Vacuum Fun,
Russ (thekiz)
 

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