Well, the Miele I bought a while back got the spa treatment, I bought some bags, and tried it out....Most of you know I have an aversion to all things new and modern...My overall opinion has not changed..Its good points...Its powerful, Its quiet, variable speed motor, and the canister itself is small and manuverable, BUT....the attachments are just as cheap as a 49.00 Dirt Devil, the dusting brush is a toy, the crevice tool not much better, and the upholstery tool is downright silly, the hose, while not as bad as those awful pistol grip monstrosities, is still a cheap springy hose, not a good grade soft vinyl hose as all should be,the teloscopic wand is nice, but the power nozzle, while small and light, grabs the rug and is wayyyy too hard to push...my overall impression, its well worth the 20.00 I payed for it, but no substitute for a real vacuum, I will keep using my model G Electrolux, the Miele cant do 1 thing it cant do, and its not cheap plastic!
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williamr1248
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Hans,
I agree with you on all the points.
My Miele was very powerful and quiet but the short hose and attachments were almost embarrassing for a machine of it's price range.
I liked the power nozzle but the wand was heavier than the canister itself and very tiring to use. It is a shame because with just a few changes it would be a wonderful product. I loved the motor.
Hans,
I agree with you on all the points.
My Miele was very powerful and quiet but the short hose and attachments were almost embarrassing for a machine of it's price range.
I liked the power nozzle but the wand was heavier than the canister itself and very tiring to use. It is a shame because with just a few changes it would be a wonderful product. I loved the motor.
beerad
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Imagine how you would feel if you paid $1100 for that exact vacuum new like I did ?
Imagine how you would feel if you paid $1100 for that exact vacuum new like I did ?
williamr1248
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Miele Solaris Update
Brad,
The wonderful thing about Miele is that is keeps it value. I sold mine for almost what I paid for it on Craig's list.
I will also say up front we had a great dealer, who was helpful with any questions I had about my purchase and we have several nice vac shops that sell supplies for the Miele.
I also thought the on going regular upkeep was going to be pretty high with bags, hepa filters and charcoal filter.
Brad,
The wonderful thing about Miele is that is keeps it value. I sold mine for almost what I paid for it on Craig's list.
I will also say up front we had a great dealer, who was helpful with any questions I had about my purchase and we have several nice vac shops that sell supplies for the Miele.
I also thought the on going regular upkeep was going to be pretty high with bags, hepa filters and charcoal filter.
sebo_fan
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I actually think Miele's smaller cleaning tools are excellent.
If you think they're bad quality, the ones that Bosch supply on their vacuums are worse and infact Bosch don't even produce a dusting brush for most of their cylinder vacs.
When I come to think of it, most of the tools other brands have including Hoover Europe are marginally better than Bosch but most of their dusting brushes for example are fixed position and don't move at angles. The upholstery tools aren't any better, and often lack the twin lint pickers that Miele put in for free.
If you think they're bad quality, the ones that Bosch supply on their vacuums are worse and infact Bosch don't even produce a dusting brush for most of their cylinder vacs.
When I come to think of it, most of the tools other brands have including Hoover Europe are marginally better than Bosch but most of their dusting brushes for example are fixed position and don't move at angles. The upholstery tools aren't any better, and often lack the twin lint pickers that Miele put in for free.
ultralux88
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The reason Miele uses these hoses is because they are lighter and crushproof. All of the wire reinforced hoses that I see on vacuums, with few exceptions, have sport where they've been "ovalled" by squishing. I hostly really do like my Mieles. I've personally seen a Miele that some guy ran over with his car and it didn't damage it!
ultralux88
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Very few vacuums don't look like toys compared to a Nilfisk!
dysonman1
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What's most disturbing about Miele, is that in the USA they are very expensive - but in Europe they cost less than a Dyson. Miele positioned themselves to be the "BMW" of vacuum cleaners, but they are nothing other than a mediocre vacuum. The "Barbie's Dream House" dusting brush is a joke, as is their model 217 worthless power nozzle. Four bags for $22 makes me want to go bagless all the way. In 20 years, I'll never spend $22 for water for my Rainbow.
ultralux88
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While I do love my Mieles, I won't deny that the Rainbow E Series definitely out cleans it by a mile (but lets face it, few machines clean like a Rainbow! and I think the SE PN2 and E series style PN is the best they made, and one of the best PNs ever made) and I do feel Tacony's lineup of canisters is finally caught up to the build quality of the Miele, and the performance has surpassed Miele. But Miele still makes a vacuum that I feel comfortable selling. My bigger issue is the price of parts, even compared to other German vacuum parts the Miele parts are insanely overpriced.
madabouthoovers
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The price of parts is insane here in the UK as well. Miele don't want you to repair their vacs. A motor here will set you back as much as a complete new vac!
I cannot understand this mentality from a green point of view - but they are only looking at maximising sales of new machines - that's business, and 2014 capitalism.
You Americans might complain about the price of Miele in the USA, but how about the price of Kirby in the UK? They cost 3 times the price of the average Dyson here, and Dyson are very expensive by our standards. The cost of shipping Mieles to the USA adds to their overall sale price, as they are made in Germany, its obviously going to be cheaper to ship them to other countries within the EU.
I've no doubt that if Tacony exported their Simplicity and Riccar lines to Europe, they would cost us more than they would cost you. I'd love to try out some of the tandem air uprights, but apart from Miele and Sebo, we just don't get quality machines like them here.
I cannot understand this mentality from a green point of view - but they are only looking at maximising sales of new machines - that's business, and 2014 capitalism.
You Americans might complain about the price of Miele in the USA, but how about the price of Kirby in the UK? They cost 3 times the price of the average Dyson here, and Dyson are very expensive by our standards. The cost of shipping Mieles to the USA adds to their overall sale price, as they are made in Germany, its obviously going to be cheaper to ship them to other countries within the EU.
I've no doubt that if Tacony exported their Simplicity and Riccar lines to Europe, they would cost us more than they would cost you. I'd love to try out some of the tandem air uprights, but apart from Miele and Sebo, we just don't get quality machines like them here.
sebo_fan
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Not only is Kirby expensive but so is Oreck and forget that we get the same models as you guys do in the U.S!
Oreck UK still haven't managed to source either new Touch bagless upright or their Magnesium upright here whilst the prices of close to £400 are ridiculous.
The Truvox Valet upright from the U.S also costs £200 to £250 on average but then £21 for 10 genuine dust bags.
Oreck UK still haven't managed to source either new Touch bagless upright or their Magnesium upright here whilst the prices of close to £400 are ridiculous.
The Truvox Valet upright from the U.S also costs £200 to £250 on average but then £21 for 10 genuine dust bags.
