Look at this ad for a Riccar canister

[dysonman1]

Miss Walton needs to learn that Mexico is in NORTH AMERICA just like she is. Ametek (lamb electric) is the current supplier of motors to Tacony. [this post was last edited: 8/20/2014-11:44]

 

[kirbyloverdan]

Tom Gasko

from Tacony just put you all in your places go somewhere else and bash please .
I really think you all bash because you could never afford a new Tacony vacuum .

Dan

 

[sebo_fan]

Goodness me, look at you all.

End of the day so what if components are made in China? At least you have a vacuum cleaner, and quite a lot of vacuums in the U.S that we unlucky ones in the UK don't get to see.

 

[vackid]

So coming from another Tacony retailer, lets take a look at the FACTS. Tacony has never touted that their entire machines are made in the US, one of the reasons for this, as explained to me by one of the executives of Tacony, a lot of products needed to make those machines CANNOT be sourced from the United States. Cords was the example used because all copper production is in China and they couldn't find a cord manufacturer in the US to make them cords. The only factories still making motors for Lamb in the US is making specialty central vacuum motors, leaving no other motor manufacturers left in the US to make them. The last belts that were used on the uprights were sourced from another country, Tacony then found out about a manufacturer that could make them in the US, in the state of Indiana I believe, and that is who is now producing the belts for Tacony. They very proudly print on ever belt "Made in the USA". Tacony goes to great lengths to make the machines as American as possible, and even for those machines that they do not produce in St. James, if you were to ever tour the factory (I've been to it 3 times) there is an inspection line where every machine is inspected and tested for absolute quality down to the very last detail. This cannot be said for the similar machines you were comparing them to.

The products that are shipped into our stores that have the USA made stickers on them are the full line of uprights, that includes Maytag, Riccar or Simplicity, The Riccar Full-Sized power nozzle and Mid-Sized power nozzle and Premium Full Sized Canisters. The Mid, Compact, and Sub-Compact machines do not have a USA made sticker on them, only the power nozzle has the sticker and any reputable dealer will explain the differences to the consumer. I certainly do in our stores. Just like with the MD and Vacuflo central vacuums we sell and install.

Here's my personal opinion, If I, as a consumer had the choice to support a company that employed 150 people, just in production, who otherwise wouldn't have jobs, i would choose to support that company. Because what some people don't understand is it's not just those 150 people working in the assembly factory who have jobs, its the 50 that work at the belt manufacturing plant, the Fed-Ex Truck driver who delivers the pallet of Riccar's to the dealers doorsteps, the marketing agency that provides the POP (Point of Purchase) for Tacony so it's dealers can spread the word about their product, the ad rep for the radio, newspaper and tv stations who are calling on Tacony dealers to advertise the products. It's not just 150 people who assembly those machines who benefit from a USA made product, it spans further than anyone can even imagine, Because those people who are getting a paycheck from Tacony, are going and spending it in town, at the grocery store in St James and at the beauty salon in New Jersey, next to one of their shipping facilities, just to name a few. That money is then going into that store owner's pocket, who then pays his employees, who goes and spends it at other places, who knows, maybe they even go to buy a Riccar, Simplicity or Maytag vacuum.

So here's my question, would you rather Tacony ship all manufacturing overseas and all that remains is a call center like Hoover, Dirt-Devil, Eureka, Sanitaire and Royal or would you rather have a company that supports US Job growth and the US Economy? I'm not saying Tacony is the perfect brand, because no vacuum will ever be, but until you actually tour the factory and see just what a difference that company makes in it's surrounding communities, I think some of you would have a change of attitude.

 

[kirbyloverdan]

You are one

Amazing smart young man .

I really think those bashing Tacony are really non vacuum experts who might own
a couple of vacuums and think they know the entire vacuum industry as many of us
actually do .

I for one have over 40 years experience with ALL vacuums makes and models and actually
own almost every brand made over 400 vacuums to be exact . When you can own and actually fix or at
least take them apart to learn about how they tick then you can be an expert .

Plus anything made in China can be of high quality it all depends what the manufacturer is willing to pay .

Dan

 

[jaker15]

he might

be "amazing and smart" but he also bullies the disabled.

 

[super-sweeper]

Dan, you can be a good guy at times, but doubting the economical status of fellow VacuumLanders doesn't sound like a smart idea.


 


D.T, I hate to say it, but it's a lot harder than it used to be to have an all-american company. I agree to the above point of supporting those American jobs by investing in the Maytag brand. Think of all the American jobs the Tacony corporation keeps in business, jobs that we could've easily lost to foreign lands. Honestly, if i had a vacuum company i would make what i could not find an american supplier for in my own factory. Hoover used to do this, it was always cool having your vacuum's brand stamped into the custom-cord! But for now, there's plenty of Country-Supporting in Tacony, maybe one day it'll proudly put 'Made in the U.S.A" on all it's vacuum lines! 

 

[kirbyloverdan]

Well Alex

Maybe if they'd stop bashing a great company and know the facts I wouldn't have said that .

I am tired of vacuum bashing I detest Dyson but never make a thread to bash them that's my personal
preference and is kept to myself .

Dan

 

[super-sweeper]

I understand your pain towards them for bashing a fine company, but I don't see how that automatically translates to doubting one's income. I don't start threads bashing brands, and i try not to start wars, I usually only bash in Dyson, but only with facts and evidence, not spreading lies and incorrect information. i state my opinion, my experience, my factual knowledge whenever i can.

 

[DesertTortoise]

Until recently Lux could make a legitimate claim to being all American. Two of their machines still can. Kirby always could and doesn't stick little American flag themed stickers on their stuff. They don't need to.

Tacony, well, putting those American flag themed stickers on Korean made machines lost my respect. It's not honest. I'm not apologizing for that opinion either and I am not sorry if that offends some.

I paid cash for my home and all of my rental properties. I don't need to prove anything to anybody. I don't need my day job but I get to see and do cool stuff at work that I could never do anyplace else so I go to work as the sun rises or before in the winter months and do hard to do things for our Navy. Our base has a great history of innovative weaponeering. I'm thrilled to be part of that. The money is only secondary. I'd pay good money to see (and feel!) some of the things I get to experience at my day job.

 

[kirbyloverdan]

It's VERY

Obvious DT doesn't know how to read or only reads what he wants .

P.S Kirby puts an American flag on the box the Kirby comes in even though
many parts are globally sourced .

Dan

 

[DesertTortoise]

To be honest I have never seen a new Kirby vacuum. I think I have maybe seen two Kirbys of any vintage in my whole life, one farily beat G at a thrift shop and another well used example for sale in vacuum shop. I don't know anybody who has one, or any other expensive vac for that matter. The thrift store Electrolux Epic 8000 I bought is the one and only Electrolux I have ever seen.

As for Taconly products I have only seen the mid priced Korean stuff with the little US flag stickers. That is what turned me off to Tacony. It has this American made sticker on it but you flip it over and it says Made in Korea (Made in China on the floor brush). Maybe some stuff really is made here but don't try to misrepresent a Korean made vacuum as being US made. That's bull crap. Like we say in the Navy, one awshit cancels all attaboys. If they can be phoney about that, what other misrepresentations can they tell? I don't want to feel like I have to visit the plant and take their effing product apart to see if it really is made here. I don't trust them now, never will. You can do what you want with your money and have whatever opinion you care to have. You don't have to like my opinion of Tacony. I don't care. The Desert Tortoise has a thick, hard, sun baked shell.

 

[jaker15]

kirbyloverdan,

Obviously you enjoy bashing other members as much as we like bashing Tacony. Everyone has their own opinion, and if you don't like it, then you don't have to reply. Don't complain about others "bashing brands", because you are doing the exact same thing. My Kirby will put your Tacony machine to shame any day.

 

[jkbff]

Tacony doesn't put the stickers on any of the machines not assembled in America... The dealer has stickers they can put on whatever they choose to... It is their property.

Tacony puts the stickers on what they assemble here. When the machines come in, the boxes are opened and kitted with an assembled in America power nozzle... The boxes don't have the sticker on them, only the power nozzle. The boxes the machines are shipped in are very clear where the product is coming from. Even CarpetPro machines say Made in China, underneath it says Another fine product from Tacony...

Something else to keep in mind... Tacony owns most of the companies that do their production. They own the company in China and they own Truvox... They are still recovering from the company that ripped off the Pristine Molds which is why they are bringing out the Prima and the Wonder.

The last little bit, when Tacony started their dealings with Ametek / Lamb, the motors were made in America... Tacony didn't force them to move to Mexico or China, they did that on their own... Tacony chose to stay with Mexican-Sourced. They are at least still in North America... Also the Central Vacs are made in Canada... Still North America.. and they are fitted with an American Made power nozzle.