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I think I am going to go crazy!! Ok...enough with the silly captions...they are unnecessary, right? :-D

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Karl...you are right about the 102 my bad! There was some but very little difference between the two models. The 105 introduced the tilting bar for the handle and the 102 did not have that feature. Some 102s could have the Robbins and Meyers motors too.

Here is a shot of my "regular" 105 that has not been rebuilt by the company. I made the bag and the cord is not original at all. The switch has been replaced because it is plastic. The original switch would have had a metal top to it but located in the same place.

--Tom

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Here is the top view of the motor which is made by Hoover. These are just sleeve bearing motors which makes them open to build up in the bearings. Try to add a little oil to the top and bottom bearing to see if it will speed up. There is also an adjustment that you can make to the motor. I have done it but it is a little complicated. These motors do turn slower than modern machines so it may seem as if your motor is "broken". In reality they just turned slower and used a larger fan to compensate for that.

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This is the tag on my machine. It reads "The Hoover Suction Sweeper Company". The name was not officially changed until Boss Hoover's son became president in 1922 at which point it became simply known as the Hoover Company. This one is made after 1919 when the town went from "New Berlin" to "North Canton" officially. This machine is a North Canton machine.

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This is the underside...these were still sand cast. The next machine the 541 would be die cast which made them faster and cheaper. The 105 still relied on the converter over the brush roll set up for the tools. The 541 would allow the customer to put the converter right over the fan for greater suction. The brush on this one is right for the machine but very worn down. These machines just hum along cleaning rugs. The beater bar version of the late 20's was better in my opinion.

--Tom

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Oh, wonderful, Tom!! Yours really looks great! Oil did not do the trick, but you are right about it being slow in general. Would you happen to have an extra brush roll? Even in not-so-good shape? And you said that the switch cover YOU don't even have? Thanks again, Tom! If I need any Hoover questions answered, I know who to ask! ;-)

~~K~~

P.S. Please email me about what I can do to the motor! I'd love to do it! Thanks!
 
OH!! I nearly forgot! Does the switch go on the right or left side when looking at the machine from the front? The last picture --I-- posted shows both Hoovers with the switch on the right, but your pictures shows the switch being on the left. Which is correct for the machine? Thanks again!

~~K~~
 
Kyle...

You do not have a choice on the matter. I think that they were made both ways if you ask me. The switch is cast as part of the base of the motor on mine.

--Tom
 
Hey Tom!

Don't you mean "I DO have a choice on the matter"? You said that it could go both ways...just checking. Now that I look at your machine next to mine, the two top screws on the motor are parallel to the front of the vacuum. So...the motor must have been made two ways...left and right! A somewhat perplexing mystery! Ahh, but it really doesn't matter after all...I will let it go! :-D

So, Tom...what spare parts in the way of the 105 do you have? If I could purchase a brush roll, the top switch cover, and a screw for the switch cover, would that be all right? I think those are the only things I need.

Could you email me about the motor and how to change the speed? I'd love to "rev it up" a notch! That is, as long as it would do no harm to the motor as well as that it can be reversed if necessary.

And just ONE last thing...(sorry for asking so much! I am just an inquisitive kid!) How do I reblacken the handle? Just to make it look pretty! Simply enamel paint? Thanks SO much Tom!

And Chris! No problem about the pictures! My pleasure! He has a few vacuums that I have, like the Lewyt Leader, Lewyt Golden, Rexair model B, Rainbow D chrome top (but his has the power nozzle...mine doesn't), Air-Way 88 (I have the Mark II; he just has the 88), GE Roll-Easy, GE Swivel-Top...he has a similar model to mine, Electrolux AE, Electrolux L, Bison, although he has the Mark III; I have the Centurion...I think that is about it! He has the elusive RED Royal canister that many desire, I believe! Although his has wheels...are they equally as desirable? Anyways...enough said! He has a lot of good ones! :-D

~~K~~
 
Kyle,

Sounds like it was your lucky day. Looks like Toby has a fine collection, and sent you home with some great treasures to add to yours. Thanks for sharing the pictures, and congratulations!
Jeff
 
grate finds

I never liked bisons but they are very very very hard to find thay vacuum very good but I just never liked the way thay look my frend has one I have bin around it since I was 3 I liked evry vacuum but that one it allways looked evil to me and I know it sonds nuts but I still find it creepy today
 
Yeah, there's a certain menacing look to the Bisons, like they're a Kirby's evil twin, or maybe something out of a Stephen King novel.

If you ever want to have a little fun with your neighbors, take one outside on a nice warm day when people are out and run the speed control up and down a few times. The thing's so loud, they're liable to think it's a jet crashing into your street.
 
Kyle...

I do not have much for the older models. I will check but I probably do not have anything worthy of display at this point...it does not mean that I won't find one in the trash tomorrow though! You just never know when one of these older models will come out of the wood work. I would paint the handle with spray paint but sand it first. I bet your running 105 is at its peak now. I do know that there is an adjustment but I won't gaurantee that it will help much. When the beater bar machines came out, then they beefed up the motors a bit. Again great pictures!

--Tom
 
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