KIRBY VS. DYSON
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nycwriter
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Yes, Jon ...
... totally agree.
Particularly the pre-1969 Kirby models with the smaller nozzles. They are no bulkier than any other upright on the market today.
But my D80 can out-suction any of them!
... totally agree.
Particularly the pre-1969 Kirby models with the smaller nozzles. They are no bulkier than any other upright on the market today.
But my D80 can out-suction any of them!
Yep, the D80's suction is very powerful compared to most machines! I used the hose attachment to vacuum out my car today with my Dual 80, and it did a better job than my 5 horsepower industrial grade Shop-Vac does!
Think the Kirby will now be my primary detailing machine for my car. My carpets in there are spotlessly clean now and it only took me a half an hour to get it all clean. Love my Kirby!
Think the Kirby will now be my primary detailing machine for my car. My carpets in there are spotlessly clean now and it only took me a half an hour to get it all clean. Love my Kirby!
DesertTortoise
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Wow, that has to be a record for astroturfing a discussion board. Holy crap Batman!
Woulda been better as a video, lol.
Woulda been better as a video, lol.
cb123
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But, nevertheless, a most powerful dissertation/thesis. For the most part his analysis was decisively in favor of the superior machine. I especially liked it when he was, quite frankly, critical of the cheap plastic (INFERIOR) garbage/trash. Why, is that laughter I hear? Could it be? Why, it's Mr. Dyson, himself, laughing all the way to the bank saying, " Gotcha, Gotcha, Gotcha!" So in conclusion, I think that the labor VacuumSalesman afforded to this great undertaking is worthy of some praise.
Thank you for you detailed analysis, and Oh yeah, Kirby rules!
Thank you for you detailed analysis, and Oh yeah, Kirby rules!
eurekastar
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I own a Dyson ball and it's ok. I got it pretty inexpensively as a refurbished model. My biggest concern about Dyson is its durability. If it lasts 20 years, will there be parts available to service the motor? If I'm going to pay $700, it better last a lifetime. AND replacement parts had better be available.
adiostor3ador
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Where I stand
Personally I would own a Kirby because my experience with them has been good. They are very versatile machines and I can clean just about anything and anywhere using the attachments. Now my Dyson is a great vacuum and I have been using it as a daily driver to see how it fares and so far I can't complain it is genuinely a good vacuum. It feels sturdy than compared to my friends shark and as far as deep cleaning goes it does better than older Dysons and I feel is on par with my Kirby. If I were recommending machine to a person who isn't like me (meaning they aren't a collector) and just wants a vacuum that works and does a good job I would recommend a Dyson because for most people it easy to use and does a good job at cleaning and grooming carpets, Now if it were someone who had a slight knowledge on vacuums and wanted the be all and end all of cleaners hands down I would tell them to go after a Kirby.
Personally I would own a Kirby because my experience with them has been good. They are very versatile machines and I can clean just about anything and anywhere using the attachments. Now my Dyson is a great vacuum and I have been using it as a daily driver to see how it fares and so far I can't complain it is genuinely a good vacuum. It feels sturdy than compared to my friends shark and as far as deep cleaning goes it does better than older Dysons and I feel is on par with my Kirby. If I were recommending machine to a person who isn't like me (meaning they aren't a collector) and just wants a vacuum that works and does a good job I would recommend a Dyson because for most people it easy to use and does a good job at cleaning and grooming carpets, Now if it were someone who had a slight knowledge on vacuums and wanted the be all and end all of cleaners hands down I would tell them to go after a Kirby.
dysonman1
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I don't care for Kirby vacuums, at all. They are here, so there are in the Museum, and we have one of every production model. I still don't like the way they belch dust. I don't like the dirt passing through the fan. I don't like the bag hanging off the side, rubbing the walls. I don't like the fact the attachments are in the closet. I hate the fact that they wholesale for $475 and retail for $1900 - the markup is way too high for what you get (a stick, and bag, and a weak little motor).
Plastic isn't bad. I hate when people say "Plastic" like it's a bad thing in vacuums, yet there have been plastic vacuums since the late 1960's and they are still here.
The Dyson DC17 is a great vacuum. My DC17 is almost ten years old, and has seen quite a bit of use. The motor is still fine, and since it's a Panasonic motor, I should be able to keep my Dyson running for more than two decades.
Plastic isn't bad. I hate when people say "Plastic" like it's a bad thing in vacuums, yet there have been plastic vacuums since the late 1960's and they are still here.
The Dyson DC17 is a great vacuum. My DC17 is almost ten years old, and has seen quite a bit of use. The motor is still fine, and since it's a Panasonic motor, I should be able to keep my Dyson running for more than two decades.
cb123
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We Shall SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
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super-sweeper
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Here's how we find the winner of this war- we see which one survives getting mowed-down by a Plymouth Fury at 40 miles an hour!
I noticed something today while vacuuming, Dyson didn't invent the 'turn-on-a-dime' vacuum! We had them LONG before he came along with the ball! I noticed that today with my Kirby Classics floor brush, it has complete swivel steering! But we can go all the way back to the Eureka model M or the Apex 'which-way' vacuums of the 1930s!
Tom,I will agree with you on one of your points. Plastic has two styles, the quality plastics of the older Eurekas and Kenmores, and then there's the cheap, terrible plastics of the Dysons and what-not.
However,I can't disagree more with your view on Kirby. I just used my Classic today, it made my carpets BEAUTIFUL in one single pass. I know you promote Maytag senseless, and they are decent, American-Made vacuums, they still can't polish silverware!
I noticed something today while vacuuming, Dyson didn't invent the 'turn-on-a-dime' vacuum! We had them LONG before he came along with the ball! I noticed that today with my Kirby Classics floor brush, it has complete swivel steering! But we can go all the way back to the Eureka model M or the Apex 'which-way' vacuums of the 1930s!
Tom,I will agree with you on one of your points. Plastic has two styles, the quality plastics of the older Eurekas and Kenmores, and then there's the cheap, terrible plastics of the Dysons and what-not.
However,I can't disagree more with your view on Kirby. I just used my Classic today, it made my carpets BEAUTIFUL in one single pass. I know you promote Maytag senseless, and they are decent, American-Made vacuums, they still can't polish silverware!
kirbymodel2c
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I..
<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">I still find it funny that this thread is still going.
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">I still dislike bagless vacs in general(cyclonic and water based)Both don't cope with large amounts of fine dust well. </span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">It made me smile that </span>Dyson have made all parts for the DC01/02 obsolete. (except belts for the DC01 just because it shares them with some of the other newer models.) I'm sure they will start on the DC03 soon.</span>
Imagine if Kirby made everything for the G4 obsolete.
<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">You can't blame a high mark up just on Kirby all the door to door companies do it..... Rainbow,Tristar,Filterqueen etc.</span>
And when you work in this area of sales you can see why it's needed.
<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">I would probably say Kirby is the biggest and most successful of all the door to door companies. Especially when you look at how many distributors it has worldwide compared to Rainbow,Tristar etc. You can see why, It's a great product now as it has always been. One of the many reasons I love looking at my complete Kirby collection seeing the evolution of it. Definitely for those who appreciate Quality, Performance and Reliability
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">James
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">I still find it funny that this thread is still going.
<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">I still dislike bagless vacs in general(cyclonic and water based)Both don't cope with large amounts of fine dust well. </span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">It made me smile that </span>Dyson have made all parts for the DC01/02 obsolete. (except belts for the DC01 just because it shares them with some of the other newer models.) I'm sure they will start on the DC03 soon.</span>
Imagine if Kirby made everything for the G4 obsolete.
<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">You can't blame a high mark up just on Kirby all the door to door companies do it..... Rainbow,Tristar,Filterqueen etc.</span>
And when you work in this area of sales you can see why it's needed.
<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">I would probably say Kirby is the biggest and most successful of all the door to door companies. Especially when you look at how many distributors it has worldwide compared to Rainbow,Tristar etc. You can see why, It's a great product now as it has always been. One of the many reasons I love looking at my complete Kirby collection seeing the evolution of it. Definitely for those who appreciate Quality, Performance and Reliability
<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">James
super-sweeper
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Kirby, 75 Years of fine uprights that STILL aren't obsolete!
cb123
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Alex, James............
I must truly admit, when I read your lovely replies, I cried tears of joy. Well done and rightly said. The truth is a powerful weapon and you 'all wielded it most magnificently. Remember, aluminum may tarnish, but tawdry, tasteless plastic soon turns back to that low-cost white dust, and furthermore, what lies beneath, hidden in its dark subterfuge, behind its thin veneer of waste and stinking rot, beats the heart of a undersized and overpowered motor which was never meant to last. It will die a heat death with its poorly insulated conductors...so sad, so very sad.
I must truly admit, when I read your lovely replies, I cried tears of joy. Well done and rightly said. The truth is a powerful weapon and you 'all wielded it most magnificently. Remember, aluminum may tarnish, but tawdry, tasteless plastic soon turns back to that low-cost white dust, and furthermore, what lies beneath, hidden in its dark subterfuge, behind its thin veneer of waste and stinking rot, beats the heart of a undersized and overpowered motor which was never meant to last. It will die a heat death with its poorly insulated conductors...so sad, so very sad.
super-sweeper
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lol Calem, at times your replies look as if you've stolen them from a script! in this case, the script of Modern Vacuums!
cb123
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Why Alex, Whatever Do You Mean?
There was no plagiarism involved, I purloined it from my own heart, and I'm here to tell ya, I meant ever last word of it. Now, "The Script of Modern Vacuums" That was pretty clever. Alex, I think you're a poet and just don't know it. You must free the literary beast within and protect Kirby's exalted, lofty name. For we band of brothers have taken the Kirby oath and pledged our....wait just one second, No one is supposed to know about this.
There was no plagiarism involved, I purloined it from my own heart, and I'm here to tell ya, I meant ever last word of it. Now, "The Script of Modern Vacuums" That was pretty clever. Alex, I think you're a poet and just don't know it. You must free the literary beast within and protect Kirby's exalted, lofty name. For we band of brothers have taken the Kirby oath and pledged our....wait just one second, No one is supposed to know about this.
super-sweeper
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Calem!!! We haven't had a security breach in the K.P.A since Mark leaked the DS50 two-days before it's launch!!!
I meant you write with movie-script quality! It's golden at times. It's always fun to read, too!
I meant you write with movie-script quality! It's golden at times. It's always fun to read, too!
cb123
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Well Thanks Alex....
and I really do mean that. Writing should always be informative and above all else...FUN, FUN, FUN! Thanks again for liking my blathering hubbub, it's very much appreciated.
Calem
and I really do mean that. Writing should always be informative and above all else...FUN, FUN, FUN! Thanks again for liking my blathering hubbub, it's very much appreciated.
Calem
super-sweeper
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As always, it's been a pleasure Calem!
fantomfan
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I like Kirby, but they are not my favorite.
I use Kirbys alot on my carpets. I do not enjoy using them for more than one area at a time. They are bulky, heavy and not very user friendly. They are made well, clean well, and have good filtration, but only if you use cloth HEPA bags. They just belched dust before I switched. I hate cleaning with the kirbys when using tools, it is too much trouble when I have canisters to do all of that. They are way too expensive. Somebody on Craigslist wants $2000 FIRM for a 6 month old USED Sentria 2. Really? I think they should go back to something similar to their old designs, pre-classic era. I really like those better. They are much lighter, clean just as well, and the only thing that should change is to have the new design use disposable bags. I know many people have had/have Kirbys. My neighbors have a Heritage 2, my aunt has a Sentria, my dad's friend's mom had a G6, a friend from school has a G5, I have my grandma's best friend's 515, another 2 friends of hers have Kirbys, I just don't know what kind. The lady I bought a G4 from still had her G3 upstairs, some people I have purchased vacuums from replaced what I bought with a Kirby, another neighbor used to have a Heritage. The vacuum exhibit I went to 11 years ago had a G6 limited edition, I have my other aunt's parents 512. They are everywhere. I have found that about 3/4 kirby owners I meet SWEAR by them. I don't blame them, I would take a Kirby over something cheap, but they are not machines I would use every day.
I use Kirbys alot on my carpets. I do not enjoy using them for more than one area at a time. They are bulky, heavy and not very user friendly. They are made well, clean well, and have good filtration, but only if you use cloth HEPA bags. They just belched dust before I switched. I hate cleaning with the kirbys when using tools, it is too much trouble when I have canisters to do all of that. They are way too expensive. Somebody on Craigslist wants $2000 FIRM for a 6 month old USED Sentria 2. Really? I think they should go back to something similar to their old designs, pre-classic era. I really like those better. They are much lighter, clean just as well, and the only thing that should change is to have the new design use disposable bags. I know many people have had/have Kirbys. My neighbors have a Heritage 2, my aunt has a Sentria, my dad's friend's mom had a G6, a friend from school has a G5, I have my grandma's best friend's 515, another 2 friends of hers have Kirbys, I just don't know what kind. The lady I bought a G4 from still had her G3 upstairs, some people I have purchased vacuums from replaced what I bought with a Kirby, another neighbor used to have a Heritage. The vacuum exhibit I went to 11 years ago had a G6 limited edition, I have my other aunt's parents 512. They are everywhere. I have found that about 3/4 kirby owners I meet SWEAR by them. I don't blame them, I would take a Kirby over something cheap, but they are not machines I would use every day.
