KIRBY VS. DYSON

DysonKing474 · May 13, 2012

Me and my friend are having a little argument on how dyson or kirby is better, he says kirby i say dyson, now the models have to line up, the DC41 is in alot of ways much better than a kirby sentria or G6 or 7 or ehatever the hell you want. but any dyson is BOSS

REPLY YOUR VOTE, AND SUPPLY WITH AN EXPLANATION

dwhdarren97 · May 13, 2012

Since everybody has a different opinion this thread will quickly go to hell I believe.

turbomaster1984 · May 13, 2012

Not that far off Trolling really

bagintheback · May 13, 2012

A Kirby will always outclean a Dyson, period. The larger fan creates much more airflow and the brushrolls are generally better. I have used both in my own home, and the results reflect what I just said. I do love how easy my DC14 is to use, but I'd rather deal with a Kirby and have a clean carpet.

twocvbloke · May 13, 2012

Let's just say, my well-used Kirby Dual Sanitronic 80 is at least 42 years old, I'd like to see a current model Dyson after the same length of time and whether or not it works after living a life of average use...

Somehow, I think the Kirby would be more likely to be still around...

trebor · May 13, 2012

Here are the facts...

A Dyson fluffs the dirt. making it appear like more than it really is. We have all seen vacs with bags packed like a bag of sugar with power to spare.

A Dyson does not lift the carpet like a Kirby, Sanitaire, metal Royal, or older Hoover, and it lacks the brushes of a Lindhaus that maintain constant contact with the carpet and spin at 5000rmp.

The Dysons do such a great job because (some) people will keep cleaning with them until they stop seeing dirt being pulled up, and the belts do not stretch. Use a Dyson like most people use their Hoover Elite and it's just another vacuum cleaner.

DysonKing474 · May 13, 2012

well the damn dyson people decided to go with the helix brushroll system instead of a standard cylindrical one

mieles7 · May 13, 2012

Both of these vacuums are good.

Dyson would be good if you had to clean a whole house quickly.
Kirby would be good if you needed to do a really thorough job and had a lot of time.

Personally, I would just get a used Sanitaire and a Eureka Mighty Mite. Therefore, you would have 2 lightweight vacuums that don't require much preparation to use. Plus, you could probably get the vacuums for less than $300.

DysonKing474 · May 13, 2012

well if you get a dyson DC25 Blueprint, would you rather have a Kirby Diamond

kirbyloverdan · May 13, 2012

Kirby

hands down will out clean any Dyson PERIOD .

kirby519 · May 13, 2012

DysonKing

What are the pros of the Dyson in your opinion?

I vote for the kirby. I have used them all my life and like the performance and reliabiliy of the kirby. I have no personal issues with the weight of the kirby or setting up a kirby to preform any cleaning task i desire. I have used varous models of kirbys in homes and in commercial cleaning and found them to be reliable in any setting and will pick up most anything on the floor that will go thru it. Granted many things it will suck up isnt what it was designed for. I have used them to clean up powder from chemical fire extinquishers and drywall dust and still perform well enough to clean efficiently. Many of those same machines are still in use today some over 30 yrs old.

sebo_fan · May 14, 2012

Well firstly, IMHO the whole proposition of challenging a bagged vacuum versus a bagless vacuum is just not fairly represented and the Kirby is like comparing an American sized fridge freezer with a standard, smaller European model in terms of size!

The Kirby is the better performer as Mieles7 notes, and if you have the time to push the vacuum around, then you'll get an effective, better all-around cleaning performance. However the appeal of the Dyson in most cases is that the machines are lighter, easier to push and don't require as much effort despite Kirby uprights that have the self mechanism activated. Also the old mantra stands "there's no dust bags to buy/replace," but you still have to face the dirt no matter what Dyson would have you believe.

Trebor - I disagree- Dyson uprights DO lift carpets but their design doesn't necessitate that they are required to deep clean - the suction power on board in most cases takes care of that already. Dyson uprights lack the superior performance of leaving carpets groomed though.

In my experience, a brush roll that may well have a higher spin or RPM isn't always good for certain carpets and the term "over wear" springs to mind here, when too much vacuuming with a higher-spin brush roll can do carpets more bad than good where general condition is concerned. But then it also factors in the kind of brush roll that is used at the time. I liked the brush roll that Oreck XL uprights have - very bushy, not that rough to the touch and yet leave carpets looking good.

jmurray01 · May 14, 2012

Everybody here knows I'm a Dyson hater, but I'm not going to vote Kirby either just because I think this thread is futile.

blackheart · May 14, 2012

As the owner of a DC-17

Here's what i know:
When using the baird guage it pulls a 1.5 when the filter and assembly is clean after using it on a landing above the litter boxs it would then pull a 0
I've thoroughly vacuums rooms with the dyson then followed behind with multiple vacuums (kirby d80, Hoover Convertible, Fantom Cyclone XT) each time there was a good amount of fine dust and gritty soil in the other machine.
I hate it's brushroll! It is way too stiff i've seen it rip a line out of commercial pile carpeting and i don't use it often because i feel like i may be causing damage to the carpet.
The dyson is an interesting machine but, i feel that, it doesn't have the airflow or agitation to properly deep clean.

In terms of carpet cleaning the Kirby is definitely the better performer you cannot beat the lifting sweeping and beating of carpet to dislodge deep down grit

jmurray01 · May 14, 2012

Yep, I think it is widely known that a Dyson does not pick up fine dirt, meaning over time your carpets will be ruined as you walk over them and the fine dirt acts like sandpaper.

trebor · May 14, 2012

well the damn dyson people decided to go with the helix brushroll system instead of a standard cylindrical one.

So Dyson finally copied what has been working for Lindhaus for over 20 yrs?

gsheen · May 14, 2012

Just one thing, every one goes on how a Kirby is the only vacuum to be able to suck the sand up thru the carpet pile. Last week I had 4 carpets at my house replaced. They have been down for 10 years, gone thru 6 building renovations ( opur house is brick and concreate not wood) two of the rooms haveing most of there outer facing walls removed to add bathrooms.

There was nothing much wrong with them but they were a looped pile wool carpet and I felt like a thick plush cutpile in a new colour so we changed them.

The carpet guy wanted to know what vacuum we used as he had never in his life seen so little dust under a 10 year old carpet.

There wasn't even enough to sweep up. These carpets have been vacuumed by dysons for the last 10 years, at first a dc04 a green and grey non clutch model, then a dc07 with clutch but fitted with the USA soulplate and brushbar, then it jumped from dc14, dc28, dc27 , dc25 , dc15( i chop and changed between these on a daily basis ) and currently a dc40. When I started selling dysons I used many models as I tested them and tried them out.

Im not saying a kirby is not good but a dyson is not as bad as many of you say it is, it could never be they spend to much on research and development testing and testing and seeing what works best on getting dirt out of a carpet. Just because its not metal and doesn't weigh a ton does not mean its not a good vacuum.

Gareth

vintagerepairer · May 14, 2012

Well anyway, some people live like pigs, so I think it doesn't matter what cleaner you buy as the cleaning regime of the user will account for how clean the home and the carpet is. Hopefully they will be clean enough to be healthy but still have a sufficiently busy lifestyle not to worry too much about it.

baglessball · May 14, 2012

super-sweeper · May 14, 2012

As the owner of a DC07 And a.....
Kirby Dual 80
Kirby heritage
Kirby G4
Kirby 511,
I vote for the kirby.
(Obvious isn't it?)

Here's why:

While a dyson may seem to clean well, As stated above it fluffs the dirt, which enlarges it.So in this case, Seeing isn't believing.....

Another reason, The build quality,
Since i purchased my DC07, Here's how it's gone down-hill.....
1-The hose from the bend to the nozzle has disconnected,
2-The flimsy plastic carrying handle snapped in 2 and fell off.

This machine and it's flimsy plastic is not worth the 500$ price tag, You could buy around 10 used kirbys for that.

The pluses to kirby is:

!-SO MANY USES!!!!!With my 511, (What some people may consider outdated, As it's from the early 1950's) can:
Polish floors,
Fluff carpets,
Massage,
"All above floor cleaning",
Sharpen/polish silverware,
CUT WOOD/DRILL HOLES!
sand items down,
AND MORE!
All this in one little package that'll last until the end of the millennium!

And you may say, "Kirby weighs a ton"......Not my little old 511!
I haven't even emptied the bag since i got it LAST YEAR, and it weighs less than 10 pounds!

So in conclusoin,

Be happy, Be healthy, Be clean,
And invest in a Kirby home sanitatoin system

-Alex.

goadie12 · May 14, 2012

Wow that video is awesome any I agree 100% with it. "He who vacuums last wins" awesome thanks. Zach

goadie12 · May 14, 2012

I think I stand more on the side of the Kirby simpily because of all the reasons stated above and I am more of a taditionalist. But the fact of the matter this world is made up of many different people and everyone has their own opinion. Those who like Kirby's will never be convinced dyson is better and those who like dyson will never be convinced Kirby is better. Thats my two sence on the whole topic thanks. Zach

kloveland · May 16, 2012

Carpet and Rug Institute (CRI)

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The Carpet and Rug Institute is a very well respected company which tests vacuum cleaners and rates them based on their ability to remove soil from carpets and rugs. Higher end brands like Oreck, Kirby, Royal and Sanitaire are ranked very high. The Hoover Windtunnel and their commercial uprights also scored very well. Dyson was not mentioned at all. In fact very few bagless vacuums made the list.
 
The newest Rainbow also has the Carpet and Rug Institute seal of approval and is the only canister listed in the household category. Although the Simplicity Verve and Riccar Pristine are also listed in the Household and Commercial Canister category which is odd. I thought the Riccar and Simplicity were household canister vacuums and not intended for commercial use. I'm getting off topic

[this post was last edited: 5/16/2012-11:18]

http://www.carpet-rug.org/residenti...cfm?product_type=3&product_usage=1&manuf_id=0

vinvac · May 16, 2012

Alex,

I couldn't agree more with comentary above.

Bagless vacuums all have the gimick issue going for them. Most bagged machines compact the dirt with in the bag not fluffing it as you describe.

People can see the dirt so they think it is cleaning so much better.

I repaired a Hoover Windtunnel for some friends from church. Their son talked them into purchasing a Dyson..not sure which model. They were taken back by the dirt they saw in the bin. I asked them to vacuum first using the Dyson and then go back over the same room with the Windtunnel. I gave them a synthetic type Y bag to use in the Windtunnel. Asked them once they were done to cut open the bag on the Windtunnel...they called me and thanked me for repairing the Windtunnel. the sand and grit, plus dog hair that the Windtunnel picked up was twice what was in the bin of the Dyson...they are still using the Windtunnel as their deep cleaner.

For me, get rid of stretch hoses, have tools that are actually useable, must have the blower option, and built with at least a little bit of metal...

but that is just me!

They all do the job they are supposed to...

kirbykid · May 16, 2012

kirby and dyson

the kirby is more expensive so of coarse you would think that it is made better because it is... but for your money i still think the kirby is better cause it really will last a life time and a dyson wont last as long.

ned_flanders · May 16, 2012

I don't know...I've seen more tests showing poor results for the Dyson than Kirby. I do agree (regardless of performance) that there is a selling gimmick to the clear bagless vacuums. Maybe Kirby should come out with a clear bag...

floor-a-matic · May 16, 2012

Uprights: Kirby or Sanitaire for me.

Even a Eureka "The Boss" 1934B or Smart Vac 4870 will outperform a Dyson

Canisters: Rainbow or TriStar will outclean a DC23.

sebo_fan · May 28, 2012

Well, here's something you don't find everyday on EBay, and some proof that a higher power can be found in a bag than a bagless vac (!)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hoover-ba...ultDomain_3&hash=item27c7509730#ht_500wt_1204

anthony · May 28, 2012

kirby or dyson

a Hoover junior will out clean a Dyson

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