gsheen
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Can any one tell me what the kirby sentria sells for in the USA.
Kirby sentria
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twocvbloke
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Pick a figure between $800 and $2400 and you have the answer... :S
(That's from a salesman of course, seeing how you can't get them new any other way)
(That's from a salesman of course, seeing how you can't get them new any other way)
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Or you can find em for free.
My friend just picked up a sentria in the trash. It was left in the rain. Bag was completely rotted away, and machine was rusted on bolts and where handle connects to machine. Not a scratch or imperfection on the bumper, housing, or fan.
He put $80 of new parts & work in it (bag, cord, brush roll, handle, connector where the handle goes into etc) and had it completely buffed out. Looks brand new.
My friend just picked up a sentria in the trash. It was left in the rain. Bag was completely rotted away, and machine was rusted on bolts and where handle connects to machine. Not a scratch or imperfection on the bumper, housing, or fan.
He put $80 of new parts & work in it (bag, cord, brush roll, handle, connector where the handle goes into etc) and had it completely buffed out. Looks brand new.
gsheen
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They cost the equivalent of $ 3700.00 here, its insaine .
I am not very impressed with it we have had a few in the shop always with a busted fan , their are allot for sale secnd hand aswell.
why couldn't they just stick with the legend and herritage 2
I am not very impressed with it we have had a few in the shop always with a busted fan , their are allot for sale secnd hand aswell.
why couldn't they just stick with the legend and herritage 2
kirbymodel2c
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Hi Gareth, when you say. "why couldn't they just stick with the legend and herritage 2" Well I suppose the simple answer is technology moves on.
The Sentria has a better proformance than the Heritage II etc and quiet a few other other benifits over the H2s and L2s. One of the benifits of a H2 and L2 is there lightier to pick up.
I'm suprised that you get many later G series coming in for new fans.
I and other vac shops/Kirby serivce agents in the area get very few later series models come in with broken fans. Its normally the G4 and back that you get in with broken fans. (The grey lexan type)
Chat later James
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Hi Gareth, when you say. "why couldn't they just stick with the legend and herritage 2" Well I suppose the simple answer is technology moves on.
The Sentria has a better proformance than the Heritage II etc and quiet a few other other benifits over the H2s and L2s. One of the benifits of a H2 and L2 is there lightier to pick up.
I'm suprised that you get many later G series coming in for new fans.
I and other vac shops/Kirby serivce agents in the area get very few later series models come in with broken fans. Its normally the G4 and back that you get in with broken fans. (The grey lexan type)
Chat later James
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gsheen
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Hi James
yes but you must remember this is africa we are talking about, if its on the floor it will get vacuumed up , what ever it is.
I am not a big fan of new , post g series kirby's I think they are very over priced and prefer a royal. I also find the latter g series models to be less reliable to the l1l2 h1h2 models . and for what you are paying I would expect better quality. In south africa you can by 6 dc25 vacuums for the price of one kirby or 9 miele cat & dog models.
I get so many g3's and g4's in for motor failior but a old legend will only come in for noisy bearings.
I just think like every thing else they aren' made like they used to be but they charge more , much more
Just my personal experiance
yes but you must remember this is africa we are talking about, if its on the floor it will get vacuumed up , what ever it is.
I am not a big fan of new , post g series kirby's I think they are very over priced and prefer a royal. I also find the latter g series models to be less reliable to the l1l2 h1h2 models . and for what you are paying I would expect better quality. In south africa you can by 6 dc25 vacuums for the price of one kirby or 9 miele cat & dog models.
I get so many g3's and g4's in for motor failior but a old legend will only come in for noisy bearings.
I just think like every thing else they aren' made like they used to be but they charge more , much more
Just my personal experiance
Again,we gets LOTS of later,and Sentria model Kirbys out my way for fan replacements.The plastic fans(doesn't matter what kind of plastic it is) just really don't hold up unless you are careful what you pick up-For those folks"whatever is on the floor gets picked up"that leads to eroded and busted fans.sometimes even LIVE objects get picked up from the floor-like mice and baby snakes.
gsheen
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had that two , I had one yesterday were the fan had melted into a mess but had become of shape so the vibrations cracked the main housing and bearing support.
As I said I prefer the royals , just as reliable but a quarter of the price and I think better looking .
Any vacuum can break especially if you don't look after it , my problem is not with the machine but rather the marketing department. I think they charge way to much for the machine
As I said I prefer the royals , just as reliable but a quarter of the price and I think better looking .
Any vacuum can break especially if you don't look after it , my problem is not with the machine but rather the marketing department. I think they charge way to much for the machine
kirbylover
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weight?
Does a Sentria weigh much less than a G5? Cause my G5 is heavier than my Heritage or other 'Classic' Kirbys. I have never used a Sentria I can only compare the G series (G3/G4/G5 to be specific) to the Heritage or HII and I find I like using the Heritage more. While tech drive is nice, I feel it's only useful on a large, flat, carpeted area. I have no problem pushing my Hertiage around, and got a canister for upstairs, the G5 is now up for sale.
Does a Sentria weigh much less than a G5? Cause my G5 is heavier than my Heritage or other 'Classic' Kirbys. I have never used a Sentria I can only compare the G series (G3/G4/G5 to be specific) to the Heritage or HII and I find I like using the Heritage more. While tech drive is nice, I feel it's only useful on a large, flat, carpeted area. I have no problem pushing my Hertiage around, and got a canister for upstairs, the G5 is now up for sale.
kirbymodel2c
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Hi Rex. I've never heard of animals like mice and snakes being picked up here in the UK. Maybe spiders,bettles etc...
I Disagree with you Gareth that the latter G series are less reliable than the H2s and L2s. Early G series G3,G4 had a few motor issues which got sorted out.
Looks wise are always comes down to personal taste. I'm not that keen on some of the newer Royals.
And why kirbys are expensive it don't mean there over priced.
Value is what individual puts on it. I know of lots of custmers who feel they have had good value for there money from there kirbys. Also I have seen customers who complain that they have had poor value for money for the cheaper end of the market (£95-£395)
Hay ho.
James)
Hi Rex. I've never heard of animals like mice and snakes being picked up here in the UK. Maybe spiders,bettles etc...
I Disagree with you Gareth that the latter G series are less reliable than the H2s and L2s. Early G series G3,G4 had a few motor issues which got sorted out.
Looks wise are always comes down to personal taste. I'm not that keen on some of the newer Royals.
And why kirbys are expensive it don't mean there over priced.
Value is what individual puts on it. I know of lots of custmers who feel they have had good value for there money from there kirbys. Also I have seen customers who complain that they have had poor value for money for the cheaper end of the market (£95-£395)
Hay ho.
James
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gsheen
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take Your g5 give it led lights , smooth all tha corners of the light housing making it rounder, put a new fan design on, a much more shinny handle with cheaper plastic, fit a cheap plastic chrome belt lifter ( that feels like it will break every time you use it and loks like the plastic found on cheap chineese toys oh and change the colour , you have a sentria.
same weight same machine slightly different face , oh and they changed the armiture to give a little more power.
Sorry to all you guys who Love Kirby's But i really think the sentria was a poor model. I would rather use any other kirby to clean up my house than a sentria
That is just my opinion though, I haven't had so many of a particular Kirby in my work shop for repair , will not since the g3
same weight same machine slightly different face , oh and they changed the armiture to give a little more power.
Sorry to all you guys who Love Kirby's But i really think the sentria was a poor model. I would rather use any other kirby to clean up my house than a sentria
That is just my opinion though, I haven't had so many of a particular Kirby in my work shop for repair , will not since the g3
gsheen
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James
I agree with you that the early models have had trouble with motors , I have over 20 g3/g4/g5's in our store room with burnt out motors.
I am only posting what I have found, the g6 Ultimate g and sentria are always in for either fans or gear boxes , people don't want to take them to the kirby dealership because they over charge, I happen to know what they cost to make , there markup is huge , beyond huge.
As i said before this is what I found in South Africa,
I will say that vacuums last longer in the uk than South Africa and certain parts of the USA , its down to conditions they are exposed to.
We have trouble here with certain dyson models that my freind who owns a dyson agency in the UK says are his most relliable machines.
I agree with you that the early models have had trouble with motors , I have over 20 g3/g4/g5's in our store room with burnt out motors.
I am only posting what I have found, the g6 Ultimate g and sentria are always in for either fans or gear boxes , people don't want to take them to the kirby dealership because they over charge, I happen to know what they cost to make , there markup is huge , beyond huge.
As i said before this is what I found in South Africa,
I will say that vacuums last longer in the uk than South Africa and certain parts of the USA , its down to conditions they are exposed to.
We have trouble here with certain dyson models that my freind who owns a dyson agency in the UK says are his most relliable machines.
kirbymodel2c
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Hi
Why the mark up is big, most high end items not just vacs is quite chunky. (Cars/windows/caravans etc) It goes hand in hand with what a product costs new. If your selling something expensive the mark up is allot higher as your selling less units.Also as a sales person you have to make a good mark up for it to be worth you doing it. Would you go to the time and hard work a sales person goes through just to earn £50 off one sale?
Sometimes its not worth selling cheapper vacs as sometimes you only make £10-£20 on a new unit. Unless you know your going to be selling vast ammounts of them. Like the larger retail stores.Who then push out the smaller independent ones.
Oh well I'm getting back off to work.
James)
Why the mark up is big, most high end items not just vacs is quite chunky. (Cars/windows/caravans etc) It goes hand in hand with what a product costs new. If your selling something expensive the mark up is allot higher as your selling less units.Also as a sales person you have to make a good mark up for it to be worth you doing it. Would you go to the time and hard work a sales person goes through just to earn £50 off one sale?
Sometimes its not worth selling cheapper vacs as sometimes you only make £10-£20 on a new unit. Unless you know your going to be selling vast ammounts of them. Like the larger retail stores.Who then push out the smaller independent ones.
Oh well I'm getting back off to work.
James
)ralph123
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not free trade
I wonder how much of the high cost of Kirby's is likely due in part to huge tariffs placed on it by South Africa. Some countries place slap high taxes on "luxury goods." A high tariff might explain why Kirby has to charge so much in South Africa yet still can't manage to keep branches open. Any idea if that is the case?
I wonder how much of the high cost of Kirby's is likely due in part to huge tariffs placed on it by South Africa. Some countries place slap high taxes on "luxury goods." A high tariff might explain why Kirby has to charge so much in South Africa yet still can't manage to keep branches open. Any idea if that is the case?
gsheen
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our import duties are pretty low on vacuum cleaners , its not sen as luxury goods.
Only two branches in Cape town closed , both due to poor managment, Its a franchise here.
I happen to know by how much they mark the machines up by and I am all for making a profit but its insaine. thats why all the sales guys ddrive bmw x5's and mercedes e55's they only need to sell 2 machines a week to make good money , here especially among blue coller workers the kirby is seen as a statis symbol, Kirby's biggest market here is not the upper class but the blue coller workers . they allow them to pay the machine off.
funny thing is if you are really worried about allergy's and stuff like that you can have a central vacuum system like a beam installed for 2/3 the cost of a kirby including instalation and most houses here are brick not wood
Only two branches in Cape town closed , both due to poor managment, Its a franchise here.
I happen to know by how much they mark the machines up by and I am all for making a profit but its insaine. thats why all the sales guys ddrive bmw x5's and mercedes e55's they only need to sell 2 machines a week to make good money , here especially among blue coller workers the kirby is seen as a statis symbol, Kirby's biggest market here is not the upper class but the blue coller workers . they allow them to pay the machine off.
funny thing is if you are really worried about allergy's and stuff like that you can have a central vacuum system like a beam installed for 2/3 the cost of a kirby including instalation and most houses here are brick not wood
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Kirbys here in the UK are sold for the same numerical range as I posted before, but you just swap the $ for £, and I think it's just insane, I'd never buy a Kirby from Kirby!!!
My Dad used to sell them in the 80's, and he had to pack the job in because he was suffering depression from having to force sales on people who couldn't pay for them or didn't even want them, he did work as an engineer with them for a while, but ultimately he didn't like the company's policy on sales, and I agree, they make a brilliant product, but they really need to move into the 20th century retail market ethos, and then update themselves for the 21st century, cos door-to-door sales are just not popular in this day and age...
If they don't, well, it'll be goodbye Kirby...
My Dad used to sell them in the 80's, and he had to pack the job in because he was suffering depression from having to force sales on people who couldn't pay for them or didn't even want them, he did work as an engineer with them for a while, but ultimately he didn't like the company's policy on sales, and I agree, they make a brilliant product, but they really need to move into the 20th century retail market ethos, and then update themselves for the 21st century, cos door-to-door sales are just not popular in this day and age...
If they don't, well, it'll be goodbye Kirby...
kirbymodel2c
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Umm lol
I can't see Kirby going anywhere soon nor Rainbow,Filterqueen etc... lol;o)
Also allot of Kirby's arn't sold by forcing a custmer in to buying it. That is bad salemanship. You always hear the bad story's 1st before the good ones. As they say bad news travels fast. You will always get bad sales people in sales jobs.
But there are allot of good sales people to. People tend to forget that.
James)
I can't see Kirby going anywhere soon nor Rainbow,Filterqueen etc... lol;o)
Also allot of Kirby's arn't sold by forcing a custmer in to buying it. That is bad salemanship. You always hear the bad story's 1st before the good ones. As they say bad news travels fast. You will always get bad sales people in sales jobs.
But there are allot of good sales people to. People tend to forget that.
James
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gsheen
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I agree with you James , there are allot of Good sales people out there , Like there are allot of good vacuum repair shops , unfortunetly you are right the bad ones always give every one a bad image.
Gareth
Gareth
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There ARE good sales people out there, but it's the people behind the salespeople that are the ones that cause the trouble, the person I picked up my C12 from told me about their Kirby and their never ending issues with Kirby trying to force a new machine upon her, even though she likes her old one (apparently had for 17 years, but described it as a HeritageII... :S ), and when they had salesmen round (who were posing as engineers picking up her Kirby for servicing), the salespeople would be called by their boss who would demand they hand the phone over to the customer to persuade her to buy, and she flat out refused to...
That's why my dad left Kirby's employ, because Kirby's sales are FORCED, not offered, either by the salesman themselves or by the people back at the distributor office...
That's why my dad left Kirby's employ, because Kirby's sales are FORCED, not offered, either by the salesman themselves or by the people back at the distributor office...
