Kirby bag conversion

[lesinutah]

Hey

I have 4 of 8 just have to assemble as i have all the pieces. The lexan has been giving me fits on the last few. I just been busy working and organizing vacuums.
Yes i will be selling them.
Hopefully mid next week ill have all bags completed.
Im glad people are interested in them..
Ill get in it and finish them.
Les

 

[lesinutah]

Opinion

 

[lesinutah]

Reply

Ok
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Okay these are complete bag assembelies.
I have 5 or 6 different bags. I have a couple top fill and a couple sanatronic style. They all have invisible 10-12 inch black zipper to access bag. I have toppers for all bags. I just wanted to gauge what everyone thinks. I'll state only once I am patent pending this I had to for sewer to even touch these. The bags have a tent material inch across. The material is durable and lightweight. It is about 8-12 inches of material folded in half. The 2 ends have snaps built in. So the material goes down loops in top of f type bag adapter. It loops around snapping into place it holds up f bag adapter and snaps together finishing loop.
The bottom plate is lexan glass. I have some 1/8 and some 1/4 inch in depth clear and white colors. I used this clear hose for fill tube. The black Kirby sentria 2 looks great but does not function as well. The Kirby tubing when I put d80 in cannister mode used portable handle clicked top of bag in appropriate position the black tubing kinked blocking everything. This 2.75 inch tubing has wire built into the hose. The hose is industrial tubing used in cabinet shops for dust collecters. The hose I had to snip on one side to fit around PVC and fill tube. I put 2 zip ties and used white flex seal tape. I admit the tape isn't pretty and in future I'll fix that. The tubing is sealed and it's ready to go. It sits on top of the emtor hole. I will give name of adhesive to whoever I sale it too. The adhesive takes 24 hours to dry and air tight seal.
I'll tell you the costs of everything to gauge price.
Lexan $13 for 12x12 sheet.
Cutting bits for lexan was $60 between 5 plates(these are mother truckers to cut).
$7 for bottom tubing
$6-8 for fill tube
9 for 5 adapter
$3for button $15for zipper and install
The bags 25-35 each. I bought new replacement aftermarket bags.
The price is above it's between 12-15 shipping. I didn't include adhesive because it's flammable and post office makes you send them ground taking much longer.
Ill be adding more pics of other bags. I'm ready to sell I'm just trying to get opinions.
Les

 

[phaeton]

HEPA F&G Bags

Hello All,
Until someone figures out a simple easy way to use Kirby F bag on 519 or D80 I am using these with one of zipper bags that are a non-Kirby branded item.
So I lose the Emptor, but I can always put it back on and I have not destroyed it. Works for me.
Good luck to all of you,
Pete

 

[lesinutah]

Hey

That works. You can use a pantyhose to line bag too.
You probably could get f bag adapter hook like f and g to exhaust.
The f and g restricts air flow by as much as 50%. This is as close to have no bag as it gets. I could do test on Baird meter with hose showing results. This fits 505 to d80. There is alternative to this but hepa bags and the most airflow not bogging down the motor. It basically improves efficiency of Motor. The f and g wears out motor. This is like motor having performance exhaust. It is same concept it improves exhaust aiflow not causing back pressure on motor. I got my 4amp motor within 20cfm of sentria. My d80 I have not tested and my tradition within 4cfm of sentria. The tradition is 5-5.5 amp motor and sentria I believe is 6-6.5or 7 amp. To get a 13 inch 4amp vacuum that close is impressive. The setup has 3/8 more airflow than heritage setup. I have a 1cr with 5amp motor I'm going to test in next couple days.
There are alternatives but the vacuums run at peak performance and save money on parts. This in almost all cases is more than you bought Kirby for. My 505 is only vacuum I paid over $100 for. I can't justify it's for everyone. I just wanted to use same emtor and original vacuum without shake out bag or f and g. I want to use my d80 and not ruin bag over time motor etc. I appreciate feedback though. In vacuum with f &g your about$50 and even back logged motor will pick up better than most vacuums out there. It's not for everyone it's for collectors who want to use vacuum have benefits of hepa bags performance and machine looks maintained.
Les

 

[rivstg1]

LEs,

Thanks for posting this... I may be interested... I like the idea of you already sealing it all up (the epoxy or whatever). I've attached the more modern mini emptor and hepa bag set up on my 516 and D80 with great results ( like others have). I DO LIKE the idea of keeping the original metal/pretty emperors though but with HEPA bag.... I"d be real interested in your flow test results on the 1-CR too as I have 2 of them as well.

 

[phaeton]

Hey Les,
I like your idea of using pantyhose. What brand did you use?
At this point I have not had a Kirby stop working and they seem to pick up great.
Keep up your good work,
Pete

 

[lesinutah]

Hey pete

I didn't come up with pantyhose it was Chris I thinks his sign on is hmc. I know they have pantyhose in little containers for about a dollar. I think 3,*5inch circumference is what you would need. I didn't come up with just idea he passed along. That's all I have now. I'm getting fan for my 1cr I'll do complete tune up see if I can get plate cut for circle emtors. Ihavr everything to do f and g setup I'll try a few texts maybe get volt meter see how they run. Thanks for positive feedback.
I sold the d80 bag I'm going to have to take pics of other bags.
Les

 

[gj9696]

Hi,Lesinutah. I plan on doing this HEPA bag project for my model 517, Classic 1-CR, Omega, and III. Should I use lexan sheet 1/4 thickness or 1/8? And I was wondering what size PVC pipe I should use for the fill tube. Thanks!

 

[lesinutah]

Lol

I'd worry about cutting Lexan. I've burned up 2 drills doing it. 1/8" half the time break. 1/4" is so hard to cut. Pick your poision. I'll not give away the size of pipe I'm pretty sure you can figure it out. I've done them all all models. There are multiple ways they can be made.
Les