is this a XXX pre-war model?

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knoxfrzb

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just picked this up today..motor seems to work fine, pretty good shape all around...no hose though...i know its a model 30, but my lux knowledge is weak...enlightenement anyone? it has the sun emblem on the bottom side and does NOT have the detached filter think on the end..if that makes sense

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Hi Knoxfrzb.

Unfortunately with the attachments in front of the runners, nobody can see the machine well enough to tell.

There are a number of ways to tell a pre-war from a post-war XXX. The color of the leatherette, the paint on the body of the machine, the runners, and the doors on the blower end to name only a few. The model XXX started in 1937, and ran till the end of 1954. Naturally, Electrolux was not making vacuum cleaners during WWII, as they were making what were called "motor's that fight!" (Generators and what have you.) Once they were given the go ahead to make vacuum cleaners they went back to the trusty XXX. The early XXX's 1937- the early 40's, were dark gray on both body and leatherette. The runners were flat on the bottom, and there were two or three sets of vents on the rear cover. Memory is failing as to if there were louver doors. Also, there was no 'Companion' (ride on tool holder), or cord winder. Those came out around 1948. The new model XXX's have the round runners, the paint and letherette gets lighter each year, till the last of them were a grayish blue, like the post-war XXX shown here. There were also the saloon doors as part of the real exhaust.

Both Charles Richard Lester and Tom Gasko are better qualified to talk about the other changes, but those are the key things to look for.

As for the attachments, they were standard equipment from 1937 to 54, with slight color changes in rubber trim. The only tool that changed was the rug tool. That design went through a number of changes during the years the XXX was manufactured.

Oh yes, I almost forgot! Look at the dust bag. If it says anything about the new automatic cleaner, then it was sold as the lower end model at the same time the LX was being sold. And I'm sure Charles Richard, or Tom can tell you the numbering system to determin the age. There should be a series of numbers on the area where the dust bag goes.

That's all I can think of for now.

Alex Taber.

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The last of the post-war XXX's

While the war was going on, and just afterward, Electrolux had to cut corners and save metal. Result was that both the upholstry tool, and dusting brush, were made of a light blue gray plastic, or what was called 'bakelite,' this was also used on the top of the rug tool. As for the color of the braided hose fabric, that and the rubber trim in the attachments, should match the body paint of the machine. I know you said that there was no hose, but that's what to look for to complete the set. As for the wands, they were the heavy steel.

The items like Companion, cord winder, polisher, and garment bag all came out in the late 40's, but will not detract from the machine. Many customers with older Electrolux XXX's, bought these months or years after the original sale.

Please give us a look at the machine without anything blocking the view. You have a great XXX there, enjoy it! And here's a look at one of my LX's.

Alex Taber.

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Special tools.

You may notice the white bristle dusting brush and wall brush. They were part of the complete package, and were designed for delicate places like wallpaper, or lamp shades.

What I've done here is recteat the picture from the instruction book. It's what my friend Charles Richard Lester calls a "beauty shot!" The only thing not original is the cord winder. I had the original, but the plug needed to be replaced.
 
Hey Steve:

Try taking the picture with the camera between the windows and the machine. The light from the windows is overpowering the camera so we cant really see much of the machine
 
Post vs Pre

I have both so here is the difference, the rear housing of a pre war Lux is cast aluminum, the rear of the post war is stamped chrome plated steel..here is the pre war on the left post war on the right, the filter on the pre war is a can type thing.

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Opened..

The very first pre war has extra louvers over the blower, this was changed around 38 or 39 or so because it killed the use of the sprayer or vaporizer.

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uinderside..

of the pre war, it does have the round logo, this one was made sometime between 39 and 41 or so.

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front

The older one on the right,the difference is the older housing is stamped aluminum, the newer is cast.

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The Original

Pre War Wands will have Electrolux and the logo stamped around them at the slots.also the side pieces are aluminum on the early machine, chrome steel on the later one.

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I think you may have...

A pre war machine, but the attachments pictured are definately post war, the rug tool you have is the later, 49 or 50 or later.
 
If you notice..

In reply 12,the floor brush on the left is a very thin stamped aluminum,:Its missing the bumper" but I have a new one to put on it, Electrolux found they could cast this as well as the dusting brush and also the front cover much quicker and easier, so if you ever see a floor brush or dusting brush that looks odd and usually is banged up, its a rare early one.
 
Pre-war/post-war XXX'S

Thank you Hans, those are both awesome machines. This proves that a picture is worth 1,000 words! You also jogged my memory of the rear cover, as well as a number of things that slipped my mind.


By the way, Happy belated fourth of July.

Alex Taber.
 
video is uploading

i think its pre-war from your comments...i am posting 2 videos, one of the machine and one of the machine running...it pulls about 40 kilopascals, which isnt too damn bad really
 

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