Is the new Hyla GST as good as the newest Rainbow?

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Hey tolivac

Yes.....I've done that before too. Used my Rainbow and the 14 foot hose/ dusting brush to get high/low that I can't do with my other vacuum that doesn't have a long enough hose. I don't think there is any place I can't get to with it.

I wonder what is so different about the Hyla separator that is fixed to the machine and is self-cleaning. You can't even take it OFF to clean it.

For some S T R A N G E reason I'm fascinated with any appliance that uses WATER!
 
If you opt for a central vacuum-make sure it is exhausted to the outside or has a HEPA exhasut filter-otherwise it will blow fine dust into the area where the central power unit is located.I have always preferred portable vacuums-if they have effective HEPA filers-the dust isn't a problem.And the suction and airflow of the portable is right there-not being lost thru piping in the home or the long hose.Just my experience in using two of them.-NuTone and Black&Decker.At work hav e an MD bagged central vacuum on a janitor cart-it works well-but the filtration in the unit isn't real good-fine dust coats the motor compartment.
 
Just a couple questions--has anyone here owned or used a Hyla-Has any members owned or used the Delphin vacuum?Have seen and heard of these advertised on occasion on the Internet-just wonder if anyone has used these cleaning systems.I sort of understand the Delphin comes from Germany-and the Hyla-Poland or something like that.
 
Kirbyloverdan

It wasn't directed towards you. Others posted opinions that were way off topic to the question asked.

Please don't take a childish hissy fit. I didn't say ALL comments were useless...

I DO NOT want to know anything about central vacs. We're in a rental, and I refuse to do that kind of work to a rental... not to mention I have ZERO interest in that type of machine.

I don't care about the shampoo aspects of the Hyla... I have a Royal deep cleaner for that...

All I'm asking is, please comment if you fit the question asked. If not, then please do not waste your or my time. That's all I'm asking.

Unfortunately, here's how this is playing out... "Do you like your Subaru Outback?" Response: "I own a Harley, and it's the best in the business..." It's a means of transportation, but NOT the car in question... Get the idea?
 
redgeminipa

I was the only one on here that owns a Hyla GST and gave my opinion and you never even read my post so I decided it wasn`t worth leaving it on here since you ignored it . I only post on here because I have vast knowledge of vacuums 39 years + owning most every high end vacuum and a total of 300 + .
 
kirbyloverdan

I wish you would have left it posted. There was so much jibber jabber on here, and I wanted to reread your post again, but didn't have much time.

I would like to ask more about your Hyla experience, but I felt I needed to clarify to the many comments that got off topic.

I hope everyone understands that I was asking about owner experience, how it stacks up to the Rainbow, and nothing else. I appreciate all input ON TOPIC.

If it's very comparable to the Rainbow, and I can pick one up for less money, then I'm leaning towards the Hyla. I think the biggest problem with the Hyla's resale value is not many people have ever heard of them, thus the demand is low. Heck, I never heard of them until a couple of months ago.
 
As long has I've had my Rainbow I've never had any problems but I can't help but wonder if you are paying for the name? If you think about it Rainbow is the first known water vacuum. Nothing in my own opinion will take it's place. The Hyla, and Thermax all work on the same principles as the Rainbow, and esscentially work all the same way. Some may have different features than others but I still just have to wonder if it is a name we are paying for?
 
I don't see a single solitary Hyla GST on Ebay. Where do you plan on picking one up for cheap if I may ask? They cost MORE as MUCH or more than Rainbow
 
I prefer the Rainbow over the Hyla

my co worker is buying the Hyla from me only because she used to have one and its cheap. She would prefer my Rainbow E2 onyx she said but can`t afford it . Money is the only thing stopping her from getting the Rainbow.I do have the previous Rainbow Blue I am selling but that was too much for her also . I am selling that for $899 it has the newest shampooer the mate all attachments . She vacuums every day and her previous Hyla lasted her 8 years before Hyla she had a Rainbow it lasted her 23 years . I think Rainbows build quality is better than Hyla . If you want something less costly go with Ocean Blue or Pro Aqua .
 
Somewhere Over The Rainbow!

Hopefully Ron your questions have been answered. Unfortunately, in the quest to answer your questions, some posts raise other questions that need to be addressed such as some misconceptions about Rainbows. The answers to those misconceptions may not be anything that you don't already know, but may help others who weren't certain about some things. I am 48 years old and have worked on vacuums since I was 9. The personal experience I have had with Hyla has shown it to be inferior to the Rainbow on every level, except for the nice totally self cleaning separator. The Hyla is not junky but its not top of the line either. Let's call the Hyla a Yugo and the Rainbow a Rolls Royce. One Rainbow dealer I know of went off to Hyla,but came back to Rainbow, noticing the lack of good service and second rate quality! BTW,Happy Holidays!
 
Kirbyloverdan, you just kinda summed it up. For us, it's coming down to price. Thank you for your input. It's greatly appreciated.

Mark40511, when checking eBay, you have to check Completed Listings as well...
6 month old Hyla GST with all standard attachments went for $588 on a bid... When a bargain was sold, another will follow. It pays to keep a watchful eye. Link to completed listing is below.

I think my question has been answered. The new Hyla GST might not be quite as good as the Rainbow for some, but in general, it is comparable. I've read some posts in other forums where owners are claiming to have one of the original Hylas that are still going strong. It's probably a mixed bag.

Thank you all for your input. :)


http://www.ebay.com/itm/HYLA-GST-CU...t=US_Vacuum&hash=item3f116e8bce#ht_720wt_1413
 
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Oh cool......And the item is in KY too. (LOL)

Pardon my ignorance.......but how do u search completed listings? I must be overlooking that.

Thanks :D
 
:)

On the left side, in the next section under Categories, it shows options like Returns Accepted, etc.. Click on Choose More and you should see the option for Completed Listings... check the box :)

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My Hyla Experience

Hey,

I know this thread is old but I thought I would throw in my two cents. I have used and sold rainbows and own a Hyla N Series I just got through using. I sold the E2 Blue and that is the model I own. There are a few things I want to mention about the two machines. Also, you can negotiate the price of a new Hyla with the salesman, Rainbow will NOT negotiate. My grandma got her Hyla for $800 but she bought one along with two other people who also bought one each for themselves.

For one, I tend to find the Hyla easier and faster to use and prefer the way the water is deposited into the water versus the Rainbow’s design. The hose and power head are lighter and swivel, my rainbow’s does not although new design rainbow does. The Hyla uses one hose and my power nozzle cleans hard floors very well so I don’t have to switch hoses like I have to with the Rainbow.

The Hyla water basin is another thing. The port the dirt enters into the water in the Hyla is well below the water line therefore the dirt has no chance of bypassing the water. I’m the rainbow, the area the dirt gets into the water sits right at the water line and the air sort of blows the water out of the way creating a air path that some dust and debree follows before getting into the water. Some of it may not even touch the water especially lighter non-water soluble particles. They did change this on the new Rainbow model SRX but it may have an only marginally better performance. So I think the Hyla wins in this dept.

I am having major problems finding parts for my Hyla and can’t get Hyla USA to answer their customer service line. Something else you’d want to consider for long term ownership.

I’d also want to point out that when I can see a lot of dust in the sun rays by the window and run the rainbow for an hour, all of that goes away. But it doesn’t pull up nearly as much dirt from beneath the carpet that my Kirby does. So it’s up to you to decide if you want the dirt in the floor gone or the dirt in the air.

When I sold Rainbow’s we had a light that we would show people what came out of their vacuums filters or exhausts why they were turned on and the Kirby’s never released anything. The outer bags are made of the same material that doctors masks are except made thicker and the inner bags are made of the most dense HEPA material available. There are different levels, HEPA 11, HEPA 13 etc and the Kirby uses the most sense. Also, even with a a full bag the Kirby maintains 85 percent of it airflow (well over 120cfm) because the fan that generates the power is not pull in the air through the bag, it’s on the other side of it only inches away from the carpet it’s working on. The rainbows have to pull the air through the power nozzle and very long hose so at the power nozzle most of the CFM is lost. Vaclab tested a rainbow E2’s power nozzle airflow and clocked it at only 8cfm. So like I said it’s up to you to decide. If you don’t have carpet and have hard floors it won’t be a hard decision but if you do have carpet you need to research those tests on YouTube. But- if you’d rather have allergy improvement and can live with a lot of dirt beneath your carpet than you have yourself a Hyla.

Personally, I use the Hyla every day and the Kirby once a week to get the deep dirt so I get the best of both worlds. Clean air and clean carpet. Consider buying both. I got my Kirby for $90 brand new on Facebook market place. They have Hyla’s for $300 which is way lower than a new Rainbow. Hope this helps.

PS I attached a photo of what my Hyla got out of my 3-month old mattress. I used the short extension with the upholstery tool.

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