Information On UK Panasonic 40, 50, 400 and 500 Series Please???

[thekirbylover]

its the advertising

the adverts/comercials make out like the more wattage the better , like when they go ''and with 2200 watts of power'' they make out like they are better so dont always blame the consumer also on the vacuums is says 1800 of suction power on alot of them

 

[jmurray01]

Yes indeed, a lot of them refer to the watts as "suction power" which they can get away with, but is erroneous. It is the design that determines the suction power, not the wattage.

 

[vintagerepairer]

But as has been said before, it seems to be cheaper to make a higher wattage motor than it does a better, more intricate lower wattage motor. And watts sell. Tragic, I say.

 

[jmurray01]

That is undeniably true Benny, watts sell.

To the general consumer, what stands out more ?

"NEW HIGHER POWER!"

Or...

"REDESIGNED MOTOR AND SUCTION PASSAGES!"

Hmm...

 

[vintagerepairer]

And yet Dyson cleaners have the lowest wattages of all. No one seems bothered by that. Sometimes we need things spelling out. I had a very old computer given to me. I liked it but when it broke a friend took me shopping and he was talking about memory. There is only one memory I need upgrading and that can't be done in a PC World. Well I was told this very basic laptop I have now has an amount of memory. I said do I need more? I was told Benny, this is the lowest on sale, but in context have about 10% of it on your old computer and only use about 10% of that.

 

[jmurray01]

Yep, it is the same with computers.

The new laptops and desktops being advertised these days boast HUGE amounts of hard drive space that even the most active computer user would struggle to fill...

And with that, I shall leave for bed. I need my beauty sleep. It is hard being as hansom as I.

 

[sebo_fan]

Or as daft. Power consumption from vacuums compared to computers have nothing in common Jamie and the hard drive capacity is merely a selling point a bit like the dust bag or bin capacity on a vacuum. Hard drives these days are only getting larger to give the capacity for most computer users these days who are used to downloading films or music, photos or projects. Far easier than carting around external hard drives with the system.


 


Panasonic and other brands have contiunally used the "extra high power" as a sale feature. One of the reasons to why Panasonic increased the wattage on their vacuums was to compete with what was around at the time. Today Panasonic are still churning out the same white upright vacuum with the silly 2 belt method and just increasing the "motor power" by 100 watts each time. Last model I saw was a 2000 watt upright, but I recall when the smoother shape came out with 1000 watts so many moons ago.


 


Dyson was responsible IMHO to allowing consumers to learn about air watts as opposed to motor suction or general suction from vacuums. We'd have been none the wiser if we hadn't been taught about the difference between motor power and air watts. In tandem, all brands use extra suction power as a USP but some brands do it differently.


 


 

 

[jmurray01]

"Or as daft. Power consumption from vacuums compared to computers have nothing in common Jamie and the hard drive capacity is merely a selling point a bit like the dust bag or bin capacity on a vacuum. Hard drives these days are only getting larger to give the capacity for most computer users these days who are used to downloading films or music, photos or projects. Far easier than carting around external hard drives with the system." Oh no, I didn't mean the hard drive space had anything to do with power consumption, I was merely making another point of how things are getting bigger and bigger without valid reason.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Neither did I. I was saying I need something explaining. That was the only comparison.

 

[sebo_fan]

how things are getting bigger and bigger without valid reaso

Mmm.. on the basis that back in the 1990s where computers didn't have half as many downloads as they do today as well as itunes for both PC and Mac, gaming etc i find it hard to fathom how you feel things are getting "bigger without a valid reason." You may well rely on a PC for word processing only with the odd video here and there, but largely you'll find a lot of laptops and computers have physically become smaller even though they have had to become larger in terms of memory to accomodate lifestyle downloads. 


 


I used to have quite a few of those heavy CRT monitors too but I've now changed to the thinner ones because they take up less space - and are physically smaller but offer greater definition.


 


What examples can you give where things are getting bigger without a valid reason?


 

 

[jmurray01]

Well I guess I was looking at it from my point of view, as somebody who uses a computer to go onto the internet only.

The only two downloads I have is Mozilla Firefox (for browsing internet) and Avira anti-virus. That's it.

For others maybe there is valid reason, my apologies.

 

[sebo_fan]

Id still be interested to know what things have got "bigger with no valid reason," in your opinion? I think it would be interesting to discuss.

 

[jmurray01]

Televisions for a start, it might be all well and good having a massive television but do you really NEED it ?

Don't think so.

I have a 42" Hitachi Plasma and that is the biggest I'm going. In my bedroom I have a 28" Toshiba CRT and I like it more actually.

 

[sebo_fan]

Are you actually serious?? Look at the market forces in the last 10 years or so - game stations galore have pressured TV companies to go large. Then there's the Nintendo Wii system - I doubt you could do any of the fitness stuff they show on a box 14" TV. You might not need a massive TV but I don't find your opinion to offer a justifiable thought where validity is concerned.


 


MY generation and countless others born in the 1980s played outside, ran about in fields, climbed trees etc. Not todays generation who'd rather be stuck indoors when it rains and be glued to a massive TV with a games console.


 


The bigger TV also meant several brands went out of business with their home cinema systems, because of the push to make the domestic TV larger. It brought the price down compared to the bulkier systems and thus pressured other brands to do the same.


 


At least though in terms of TVs you do get to choose sizes. 

 

[tolivac]

I mostly watch movies--so a LARGE widescreen TV is a must for me-presently--57" RPTV.When it dies-will be replaced with an equivelant size plasma.And you can get even LARGER front screen projectors-image mostly limited by he size of the screen you are using.Heck,even if you have the money---$75K-$150K you could buy a digital cinema projector to use at home!All they are is a form of HD front projection system!Give Christie,Barco,NEC,or Sony a call.Note--you may need 3 Ph 208-240V to run the projection lamp.The rest of the projector can run from 120V.But you will have a HUGE HD picture!

 

[sebo_fan]

My pet grieve of the opposite where things are getting smaller for no valid reason would be BOL microwaves with hopelessly small cavities. Also having to pay more just to have a grill fitted in them and then having to pay out more when the thing starts sparking because grease has attached itself to the hopeless cardboard magnetron cover, despite persistent water-only cleaning.