Information On UK Panasonic 40, 50, 400 and 500 Series Please???

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alexhoovers94

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I just recently got a Panasonic MCE456 in an emerald green colour It has brushroll shut off, bag full indicator, 1500 watt motor and is from around 99/2004
I no very little about Panasonic cleaners but I like them, lol, I can't seam to find any information on this either. I would be grateful if anyone could enlighten me.
Since I am asking for info on the 400 series I thought this would be the opportunity to ask about the 40's, 50's, and 500's as well.

So anyone that knows a lot about these cleaners, I would be very grateful if you can fill me in.

Thanks,

Alex.
 
I am not familiar with those models, but I have a 2004 Panasonic MC-E8011 Twin Bin Bagless Cylinder which, for a bagless, is very good!

Panasonic made things to last.

I'm waiting for a tour and in action video to be uploaded to YouTube!
 
The Panasonic 400 series were launched in 1995 to replace the old 40 series. Aside from a longer hose, slightly more sleek design and 50w increase, there wasn't much difference between the 2. 


 


The original line-up consisted of a basic 450, the 451 with variable power and 452 with variable power and headlight. 


 


After the initial line up, Panasonic seemed to release a million varieties of the 400, the final model being the very popular 468 (before being replaced by the chinese made range currently on sale)


 


Bit of a guestimate, but I reckon this is from somewhere between 2000 and 2002 as it's before the "Super Lightweight" logo appeared, but after Panasonic started adding the logo horizontally instead of vertically. It might be an idea to check those pics you have of Argos 2000 to see which model was on sale then and work around that. 
 
Actually, to nit pit (sorry) the 400 series was launched in the Autumn of 1994. With a 750 watt motor they were more powerful than the 700 watt 40 series, but were still lower than a good deal of the competitors. They were more robust than the 40 series - I didn't seen quite as many issues with the 400 as I did the 40. But damage to the mains leads where they had been caught in the roller remained a problem, which I was pleased about, as it kept me busy!
 
the 400 series was launched in the Autumn of 1994

All the 400 series manuals, up to and including the 468, have the original copyright/patent date of 1995. 


 


Benny, what issues did you come across with the 40 series? I've NEVER seen a broken 40 series and only ever known people get rid of them to upgrade to a newer or bigger cleaner with a longer hose and wider cleaning path. Really, the only major fault I've ever seen is the pivot points where the main head connects to the body of the cleaner wearing out. 


 


Incidentally, my Mum bought a Panasonic MC-E44 brand new in early 1992 and it survived until 2007 when it was retired (yet, still working)

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Turbo500, I am not doubting your manuals. What manuals are these exactly? But I can tell you these cleaners were on sale in 1994. I cannot prove it, so I will understand if you choose to not believe what I am about to tell you. Either way, I will think no less of you as it is but a detail. My mother was born on 23rd November 1914. For her 80th birthday I bought her a new Matsui colour television set from Currys. Whilst I was there I took a good look around the store as I didn't get chance to go there often. What I immediately noticed was the new Panasonic upright. It's shape was different from anything they had built so far. What concerned me was that it was on sale for £89.99, as I had recently bought three older style Panasonic electronic models from my supplier. They had been on a promotional deal and were a beautiful deep green colour. I intended to let them go for £109.99, or maybe £99.99 at a push, as there was some mark-up to be made. Upon seeing the new Panasonic in Currys I didn't think I would be able to sell them now that a new model was on sale for that price.

As it was, I managed to clear two of them for about £95 just before the Christmas and took the display model home to my mother. I then proceeded to order the new Panasonic cleaners as the replacement during 1995 and the time which followed.

The issues with the original Panasonic 40 series were many. There were at least three types of motor I can think of, one was 600watt, the most common 650watt, and latterly one which was 700watt. Those 650watt motors were prone to getting fluff stuck in the vanes of the fan, and this seriously reduced suction power. Very early models used to lose their edge brushes on the roller. All models were prone to belt slippage and often one would see a cleaner with a hole in the side where the belt had slipped off slightly and worn right through the cleaning head. The rear wheel axle was not a good fit and in every example I came across the wheels had worn further and further into the main body of the cleaner. Sometimes the wheels went right through. However, I still maintain they were relatively well built cleaners.
 
Thanks for the info, Benny. I'm not doubting you either, just a general observation. 


 


I have the very last of the 40 series you mentioned - dark green with gold lettering. Absolutely love it. 


 


It's strange that the 650w motors were more popular as I've seen way more of the 700w models floating around. Both of my 40 series are 700w. 
 
Although I like to be kept busy, there are times I wish I could just switch off and live a life where I could relax.

That sounds awfully lazy of me I know and I am not a "layabout", but there are times doing nothing doesn't sound so bad.
 
"It's strange that the 650w motors were more popular as I've seen way more of the 700w models floating around." Well from that I'd say that the 650W models were popular when new but they broke down more than the 700W models, hence the latter being more popular on the used market.

I could be wrong though!
 
There is nothing wrong in taking time out or keeping busy. It is when one is doing one thing and wishes that they could be doing the other that it gets frustrating.
 
Well the 700 watt models were the very last of that style. The 650watt models were in production for a bit longer. As Jamie has suggested, the 650watt models are probably fewer and far between now as they are older. The 650watt motors came into use about 1989 if not sooner and stayed until the 700watt went on sale about 1992.
 
What I don't understand fully is what is the point in increasing motor wattages by 50 watts ? Surely there wouldn't really be a noticeable difference unless they changed the design too, in which case was the higher wattage really necessary ?

Sorry to be pedantic...
 
It is a fair question. It was a different motor everytime, at least I am sure the 650w and 700w motors were. I know the 600w motors were different from the 650w. As you say, there would be little appreciable difference in suction power. It was certainly something else to brag about, because as I remember it the 700w models had a large circular 'silent salesman' stuck to the front which said NEW and 700W.
 

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