vintagerepairer
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Paul! Where are you getting these from? Do you have the remaining pages of the 1992 Autumn & Winter as I'd love to see the others and the Dyson DC01.
Information on the Turbopower 1000/2/3 please!
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turbomaster1984
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Benny, LOL
Where in the UK are you?
Where in the UK are you?
vintagerepairer
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Well I am living out my retirement out in the South of the country, in Sevenoaks.
Thank you very much Paul for posting those pictures!
One thing I did notice though was that they said the U2812 was a Turbopower 2... The U2812 was a Turbopower 1000! Was that an error or were the U2812 models initially meant to be branded as TP2's and later were changed to TP1000's ?
One thing I did notice though was that they said the U2812 was a Turbopower 2... The U2812 was a Turbopower 1000! Was that an error or were the U2812 models initially meant to be branded as TP2's and later were changed to TP1000's ?
turbomaster1984
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shame your so far away from sunny Cheshire.
The catalogue pics actually came from Worcester University where me and Paul spent several painful hours photographing EVERY single appliance page from 60 years of appliances Kays have ever stocked.
Made for some interesting reading and sights.
The catalogue pics actually came from Worcester University where me and Paul spent several painful hours photographing EVERY single appliance page from 60 years of appliances Kays have ever stocked.
Made for some interesting reading and sights.
turbomaster1984
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Just to add to that, Worcester Uni have every single Kays catalogue that was ever published. We booked a meeting to go and view them, hence 2 visits spanning about 14 hours we took photographs of every page featuring appliances.
was well worth it!
was well worth it!
vintagerepairer
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Now I am lost as to who is who! But anyway, did you happen to get the pages with other cleaners and the Dyson?
turbopowerpaul
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Hi Benny.
As you say, there will definitely be a degree of period swing with models being put on sale and their appearance in the pages of mail order catalogues.
So a degree of interpretation is required when trying to nail introductory periods down, but the pages certainly help give an idea as to when machines were available.
The Hoover servicing books definitely state 'ecosense' but, I have had my fingers burnt before by believeing the information held in manufacturers pages. Its generally a case of believe it 100% when I see a machine put in front of me.
Researching machines is definitely not a simple task, hence why first hand experience, as with yourself is always very useful indeed!
Paul
As you say, there will definitely be a degree of period swing with models being put on sale and their appearance in the pages of mail order catalogues.
So a degree of interpretation is required when trying to nail introductory periods down, but the pages certainly help give an idea as to when machines were available.
The Hoover servicing books definitely state 'ecosense' but, I have had my fingers burnt before by believeing the information held in manufacturers pages. Its generally a case of believe it 100% when I see a machine put in front of me.
Researching machines is definitely not a simple task, hence why first hand experience, as with yourself is always very useful indeed!
Paul
turbomaster1984
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LOL
Paul is Turbopowerpaul, who happens to be my partner.
Turbomaster1984 is me, Rob.
I got him into collecting too, although primarily he was a washing machine, dryer and dishwasher collector to begin with. Me I just collect washing machines, tumble dryers, dishwashers, vacs, irons, kettles, toasters, food prep machines, laundry soaps and detrgents etc and cookery books.
Much confusement I daresay sorry!
Paul is Turbopowerpaul, who happens to be my partner.
Turbomaster1984 is me, Rob.
I got him into collecting too, although primarily he was a washing machine, dryer and dishwasher collector to begin with. Me I just collect washing machines, tumble dryers, dishwashers, vacs, irons, kettles, toasters, food prep machines, laundry soaps and detrgents etc and cookery books.
Much confusement I daresay sorry!
vintagerepairer
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Oh well that sorts that out then. Smile. Sorry to keep moaning on, but did you or do you have the picture of the Dyson and others from 1992? Well done on all your research.
turbomaster1984
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ah yes we will have somewhere, Idont have them here with me in Crewe but as soon as Paul sees this I daresay he will add them. He went to bed.
The joys of long distance relationships. Il ask him to upload them in the morning
The joys of long distance relationships. Il ask him to upload them in the morning
turbopowerpaul
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Can confirm that standing up, photographing catalogue pages for 6 or 7 hours non-stop is very VERY painful, but well worth it.
Have sent you an e-mail Benny!
Cheers
Paul
Have sent you an e-mail Benny!
Cheers
Paul
vintagerepairer
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Oh I see, sorry, it never occured to me that you were not in the same room! My wife is 6 foot under now. We had a long distance relationship for many years, then she retired, came to live with me, married me, and it all went wrong from there!
vintagerepairer
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Two more things I've picked up since re-reading this thread. There is mention of a Co-Op exclusive Turbopower Junior bing made around the year 2000. Can anyone comment on this as I am not sure which one this would be. The only one I know of was deep red in colour and something in my head is saying it had a more powerful motor, maybe the 650w motor. But that was a mainstream cleaner, not an exclusive.
Jmurray, when you speak of the Turbopower 1000 being a spur of the moment cleaner, with the Turbopower 1,2, and 3 being planned, it is immpossible to know what went on inside the minds of those at Hoover, but I would be inclinded to disagree with you in a way. The original Turbopower (which as I said earlier only took the title of Turbopower 1 towards the very end) was probably very much planned. However this cleaner was never ever designed to have on-board tools, and it is my suggestion that when the Turbomaster was designed, the tool caddy and hose caddy was made in such a way that it would fit both the Turbomaster and the existing Turbopower. Had the Turbopower been designed for on-board tools from the start, I cannot think for a moment that Hoover would have intentionally made a cleaner where the hose caddy and hose end at the cleaner entry-point overhung the side of the machine in the way that it did on the Turbopower Total Sytem. That was a terrible design flaw, causing damage to both cleaner and anything in the home which it scraped against.
Also, the whole design of using the height selector to shunt a valve across to use tools was poor. In all it had the hallmarks of an after-thought.
The Turbopower 2 and 1000 were also quite likely to have been well planned out. It is the idea of selling practically identical machines (which they were apart from the wattage, as there were models in both ranges with identical features) which totally confuses me. It would seem that someone at Hoover also saw this for what it was, and therefore the Turbopower 3 was launched instead. There may have been no plans for it way back in 1992, but certainly it meant that the ranged now 'flowed' rather smoothly, and obviously it featured a new full-length stair cleaning hose, which really did seperate the Turbopower 2 from the Turbopower 3, as cleaners with on-board hoses had always been known for their short hose. A stair cleaning hose was a must-have feature for many customers, and one which they'd willingly pay more for. Electrolux and Dyson were doing the same, so it made sense that Hoover had to add a longer hose in order to compete.
I suppose all products are planned, it is where they end up and what bits come & go during their production run that makes the product take on a more random nature.
Jmurray, when you speak of the Turbopower 1000 being a spur of the moment cleaner, with the Turbopower 1,2, and 3 being planned, it is immpossible to know what went on inside the minds of those at Hoover, but I would be inclinded to disagree with you in a way. The original Turbopower (which as I said earlier only took the title of Turbopower 1 towards the very end) was probably very much planned. However this cleaner was never ever designed to have on-board tools, and it is my suggestion that when the Turbomaster was designed, the tool caddy and hose caddy was made in such a way that it would fit both the Turbomaster and the existing Turbopower. Had the Turbopower been designed for on-board tools from the start, I cannot think for a moment that Hoover would have intentionally made a cleaner where the hose caddy and hose end at the cleaner entry-point overhung the side of the machine in the way that it did on the Turbopower Total Sytem. That was a terrible design flaw, causing damage to both cleaner and anything in the home which it scraped against.
Also, the whole design of using the height selector to shunt a valve across to use tools was poor. In all it had the hallmarks of an after-thought.
The Turbopower 2 and 1000 were also quite likely to have been well planned out. It is the idea of selling practically identical machines (which they were apart from the wattage, as there were models in both ranges with identical features) which totally confuses me. It would seem that someone at Hoover also saw this for what it was, and therefore the Turbopower 3 was launched instead. There may have been no plans for it way back in 1992, but certainly it meant that the ranged now 'flowed' rather smoothly, and obviously it featured a new full-length stair cleaning hose, which really did seperate the Turbopower 2 from the Turbopower 3, as cleaners with on-board hoses had always been known for their short hose. A stair cleaning hose was a must-have feature for many customers, and one which they'd willingly pay more for. Electrolux and Dyson were doing the same, so it made sense that Hoover had to add a longer hose in order to compete.
I suppose all products are planned, it is where they end up and what bits come & go during their production run that makes the product take on a more random nature.
vintagerepairer
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Hello again Paul. Thank you for saying you sent me an email. I used the wrong email address on my profile. This has now been changed and I hope you won't mind if I ask you to resend the mail. Sorry. This is what happens when old people get on to the internet. If I am not mistaken, this is where I am now supposed to type LOL. Smile.
sebo_fan
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Yep - the Hoover TP 2 Yellow was known as "Special Edition 900".
I can assure you JM, the Dirt Manager can be changed to a bagged vacuum - I did it myself having to live with one in a rented property. As I said you have to source a yellow bag holder from a repairer or order online for the Purepower model and screw it into the back of the Dustmanager's bin cavity - after turfing the plastic filter box. I learnt all I know about Hoover from Yahoo Group, Hooverland08808, a fantastic UK based group full of owners who give great advice.
As for the TP3 models - there may well be a turbo button but the total max is 1000 watts and I found it was far noisier than the TP2. Regardless I still wanted the basic burgundy TP3 one over my U2464 - I just loved the colour and wanted the extra long hose.
I also have a couple of Hoover brochures showing off the classic upright models and the Turbopower, TP1, TP2 and TP3. One brochure dates from 1992 and the other dates from 1994.
1992 models - all of them had the piston/mechanical bag indicator set into the front bin door.
U2466 Turbopower 2 Permabag Dark Blue
U2464 Turbopower 2 Autosense Dark grey with red bumper.
U2462 Turbopower 2 Dark Blue
1994 models - LED bag indicators replace the older piston/mechanical bag indicator
U2880 TP3 Stair Cleaning Permabag System 2 Dark Blue
U2878 TP3 Stair Cleaning with power boost Dark Blue
U2876 TP3 Stair Cleaning Burgundy/Wine
U2466 TP2 Permabag System 2 Dark Blue
U2464 TP2 Autosense Dark Blue - no more red inserts in the bumper.
U2462 TP 2 Dark Blue
I can assure you JM, the Dirt Manager can be changed to a bagged vacuum - I did it myself having to live with one in a rented property. As I said you have to source a yellow bag holder from a repairer or order online for the Purepower model and screw it into the back of the Dustmanager's bin cavity - after turfing the plastic filter box. I learnt all I know about Hoover from Yahoo Group, Hooverland08808, a fantastic UK based group full of owners who give great advice.
As for the TP3 models - there may well be a turbo button but the total max is 1000 watts and I found it was far noisier than the TP2. Regardless I still wanted the basic burgundy TP3 one over my U2464 - I just loved the colour and wanted the extra long hose.
I also have a couple of Hoover brochures showing off the classic upright models and the Turbopower, TP1, TP2 and TP3. One brochure dates from 1992 and the other dates from 1994.
1992 models - all of them had the piston/mechanical bag indicator set into the front bin door.
U2466 Turbopower 2 Permabag Dark Blue
U2464 Turbopower 2 Autosense Dark grey with red bumper.
U2462 Turbopower 2 Dark Blue
1994 models - LED bag indicators replace the older piston/mechanical bag indicator
U2880 TP3 Stair Cleaning Permabag System 2 Dark Blue
U2878 TP3 Stair Cleaning with power boost Dark Blue
U2876 TP3 Stair Cleaning Burgundy/Wine
U2466 TP2 Permabag System 2 Dark Blue
U2464 TP2 Autosense Dark Blue - no more red inserts in the bumper.
U2462 TP 2 Dark Blue
vintagerepairer
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It is amazing the things one remembers once a memory is probed. So I will throw this one into the melting pot. A Hoover Turbopower 2, same as model U2462 (but please don't ask me the specific model number!). 700 watts. Large diameter hose. No bag full lamp. No piston bag full indicator. Deep red in colour (similar if not same colour as U2876). All lettering identical to that of the cleaners of the mid-1990's era, with the writing on the cleaner head being in the middle and not right hand side. I am guessing this was some sort of exclusive line.
The reason this cleaner stuck in my mind was because I once had one brought in for repair. Essentially it was the same as any other blocked-up cleaner, only this one must have been used for god knows how long, as the bag door had a split running top to bottom down the middle of the bag door. It must have occured when the cleaner was sucking the door in as result of being blocked. Anyway, the cheapest option for everyone (including me) would have been to sell the owner a 2nd hand bag door, which I was willing to do but I had nothing in that red colour. I found a grey door and that would not have bothered me if I was the customer, nor would it have bothered a great many people. But you guessed it, it bothered this woman.
She was not an unpleasant lady, but she was sure as sure can be she wanted the right colour door. Considering that her machine was amongst the most basic Turbopower I have ever seen to this day, I can't imagine she paid a lot for it when new. But despite this, she paid the full amount (whatever it was) for me to get her the right brand new bag door. Which ever happy to please, I got for her.
The reason this cleaner stuck in my mind was because I once had one brought in for repair. Essentially it was the same as any other blocked-up cleaner, only this one must have been used for god knows how long, as the bag door had a split running top to bottom down the middle of the bag door. It must have occured when the cleaner was sucking the door in as result of being blocked. Anyway, the cheapest option for everyone (including me) would have been to sell the owner a 2nd hand bag door, which I was willing to do but I had nothing in that red colour. I found a grey door and that would not have bothered me if I was the customer, nor would it have bothered a great many people. But you guessed it, it bothered this woman.
She was not an unpleasant lady, but she was sure as sure can be she wanted the right colour door. Considering that her machine was amongst the most basic Turbopower I have ever seen to this day, I can't imagine she paid a lot for it when new. But despite this, she paid the full amount (whatever it was) for me to get her the right brand new bag door. Which ever happy to please, I got for her.
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hoover turbo power 2
to vintagerepairher just read your storey on the women with the turbo power i would of refused to mend it. didt matter to her that she abused it . usein it with out a bag . its people like that make me sick not take care of there vacuum cleaners i got old of a hoover junior 1012 its in very good condition as well i cant being used that much
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to vintagerepairher just read your storey on the women with the turbo power i would of refused to mend it. didt matter to her that she abused it . usein it with out a bag . its people like that make me sick not take care of there vacuum cleaners i got old of a hoover junior 1012 its in very good condition as well i cant being used that much
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vintagerepairer
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Hi there. Well, it was her cleaner to do as she pleased really. If I had refused to fix it, I would have made no money. As it was my business to make money, I didn't refuse to fix it. It's how shops are run. She had used it with a bag, but the cleaner was blocked, and I think had been blocked for some time for the bag cover to have split under commpresion. Actually the cleaner was in good nick. Maybe it wasn't even her machine, which would explain why she was keen to get it all fixed in the right colours. But as I wanted to get the repair done and take money for it, I didn't generally ask too many questions or complain about the state of the cleaners bought in. If everyone had looked after their cleaner, I'd have had no work.
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