turbo500
Well-known member
I am paid to question wishful thinking. That's my job
Not on here it's not. Stick to your day job instead of being argumentative for the sake of it. I'd like to see you provide some FACTS and measurements of some the cleaners you like to slag off on the Forums, especially considering you don't own any of them.
The fact of the matter is, the UK and US markets were VERY different. We did have 1400w cleaners here in the late 80's, but those were all cylinder cleaners. My post specifically said upright.
I don't think vacuums clean any better or worse than they did 20 or 30 years ago, but the methods are quite different. Where a vacuum used to rely on things like quality brushroll's, beaters and twin fans, they now rely on cheaper parts and ridiculously high wattage motor's. There are of course exceptions to that rule with some companies using more efficient motors - Dyson, Sebo and Numatic for example, pull in plenty of suck with 1050w, 1150w, 1200w and 1300w motors depending on the model.
Jacob, you're talking a lot about dirty fan cleaners, but aside from Kirby's with their ridiculous retail price, there are no dirty fan cleaners on the market today, largely because they're inconvenient. But look back at clean air machines - the Electrolux 600 series were 575w, Panasonic 40 series were 650w and the Hoover Turbopower 2 was 800w. All had strong hose suction and excellent floor pick up. There is a reason why an 800w Hoover TP2 will pull in more suction than a modern 1800w bagless Electrolux.
Not on here it's not. Stick to your day job instead of being argumentative for the sake of it. I'd like to see you provide some FACTS and measurements of some the cleaners you like to slag off on the Forums, especially considering you don't own any of them.
The fact of the matter is, the UK and US markets were VERY different. We did have 1400w cleaners here in the late 80's, but those were all cylinder cleaners. My post specifically said upright.
I don't think vacuums clean any better or worse than they did 20 or 30 years ago, but the methods are quite different. Where a vacuum used to rely on things like quality brushroll's, beaters and twin fans, they now rely on cheaper parts and ridiculously high wattage motor's. There are of course exceptions to that rule with some companies using more efficient motors - Dyson, Sebo and Numatic for example, pull in plenty of suck with 1050w, 1150w, 1200w and 1300w motors depending on the model.
Jacob, you're talking a lot about dirty fan cleaners, but aside from Kirby's with their ridiculous retail price, there are no dirty fan cleaners on the market today, largely because they're inconvenient. But look back at clean air machines - the Electrolux 600 series were 575w, Panasonic 40 series were 650w and the Hoover Turbopower 2 was 800w. All had strong hose suction and excellent floor pick up. There is a reason why an 800w Hoover TP2 will pull in more suction than a modern 1800w bagless Electrolux.