thomas_squared
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Oh thats true, it must be quite a restriction.
If you could design a vacuum...
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ajr2993
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A Royal All-Metal upright on steroids.
A revived Royal metal upright with a 12.5 brushless direct-air motor with a 15-blade custom metal fan with curved blades, a geared belt, HEPA outer bag with self-sealing bottom-fill HEPA disposable bags, a custom wooden chevron brush roll with brush roll stiffeners and ultra-stiff bristles, an LED headlight, a brush roll performance indicator, and motor protection. Since Royal no longer makes parts for their vacuum cleaners, I just 3D print the parts and make them the same quality as the OEM parts.
A revived Royal metal upright with a 12.5 brushless direct-air motor with a 15-blade custom metal fan with curved blades, a geared belt, HEPA outer bag with self-sealing bottom-fill HEPA disposable bags, a custom wooden chevron brush roll with brush roll stiffeners and ultra-stiff bristles, an LED headlight, a brush roll performance indicator, and motor protection. Since Royal no longer makes parts for their vacuum cleaners, I just 3D print the parts and make them the same quality as the OEM parts.
Royal metal upright--this could be an idea for Kirbys new model??Surprized someone hasn't bought up and revived Royal.
panasonicvac
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If someone wanted to revised the Royal metal uprights, they would've done so already as there's no need to wait for patents to expire. But think about why the Royal metal uprights were discontinued in the first place. If you ask me, they're just outdated designs. I used to vacuum for a furniture store with a commercial Royal metal upright that was mine before but gave to them and regretted doing so. It actually got tiring to use. There were belts that had to be changed. There was no hose and attachments on-board. And I actually cracked the fan despite it being metal. I remember there was one other thing that I broke on it but I can't remember what it was. The same went with a commercial Sanitaire Widetrack that was also mine before but gave to them as well and regretted doing so. Had to change the belts out, broke the fan, and had to constantly get the Shop-Vac the store had out to use the hose that the Sanitaire or Royal couldn't get to. Not to mention the shake out bag on the Sanitaire blew out alot of dust. All of that would've been avoided if I had used something like a Windsor Versamatic or a Lindhaus RX Eco Force for example with geared belts, on-board hose and attachments, bypass design, multiple filtration, etc. Stuff that most consumers and commercial applications want to have because not all of them would feel comfortable fixing vacuums themselves or visit a vacuum store to wait and have them fix the vacuum.
thevacomaticiec
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If i may here ....
A ShopVac with a proper power head to accept the 2 1/2 inch hose . Oh yes the big hose with a power head like a rebadge eureka nozzle but made for the big wands .
A big motor 6,0 HP brush less similar to the new rainbow and blower port to , or more 16 gallons 20 feet hose with a on off switch for suction motor and power head (similar to central vac on off 3 position on hose handle ) With some metal tools and wands and still able pick up water and dry wall hepa filters to .
Maybe stick a cyclo vac central vacuum motor in the 16 gallon wet dry vac ? Add cord rewind quick connect hose and tools but the bigger 2 1/2 inch version why not ???
A ShopVac with a proper power head to accept the 2 1/2 inch hose . Oh yes the big hose with a power head like a rebadge eureka nozzle but made for the big wands .
A big motor 6,0 HP brush less similar to the new rainbow and blower port to , or more 16 gallons 20 feet hose with a on off switch for suction motor and power head (similar to central vac on off 3 position on hose handle ) With some metal tools and wands and still able pick up water and dry wall hepa filters to .
Maybe stick a cyclo vac central vacuum motor in the 16 gallon wet dry vac ? Add cord rewind quick connect hose and tools but the bigger 2 1/2 inch version why not ???
I
Recently acquired a proteam backpack sierra version.
It has a 50 foot power cord. It has a loing hose any extension wands and attachments. The best feature is the wessell werk ebk 360 power nozzle.
I can vacuum all 2000 soft on each level from one outlet.
If it could do wet pickup and battery powered would be the ultimate. I'm just satisfied with the options I have.
Recently acquired a proteam backpack sierra version.
It has a 50 foot power cord. It has a loing hose any extension wands and attachments. The best feature is the wessell werk ebk 360 power nozzle.
I can vacuum all 2000 soft on each level from one outlet.
If it could do wet pickup and battery powered would be the ultimate. I'm just satisfied with the options I have.
thevacomaticiec
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can you post a pic of it
thevacomaticiec
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nice set up how the compact doing?
blackheart
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Hmm?
I'm guessing you must have a separate ebk360 that you pair with that?
I'm guessing you must have a separate ebk360 that you pair with that?
blackheart
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A modernized MVP ultra
I know i've talked about this before but if i were to design a vacuum I would base it off the Dirt Devil Ultra MVP, some of you may wonder why. This vacuum has the most airflow at the nozzle of any bypass upright i've tested. Running around ~130 CFM but they suffer from a weak brushroll motor/belt issues. This design has so much potential the performance of a direct air machine with the convenience of a bypass.
I'd want to use a suction motor with great performance but more efficient than the stock one to allow for a stronger brushroll motor. I think the Ametek 122454 motor used in the Patriot would be a great fit it maxes out at 9.6 amps but provides great flow and suction.
I'd also want to address the brushroll stalling issue by installing vent holes and a slider similar to what ZeroG or the Rainbow SRX does to allow it to clean soft carpet while also switching it over to a geared belt system and moving the belt path to one end of the nozzle.
New switches and locations would also make it much more user friendly the brushroll control is something I find annoying on the standard MVP
A diverter valve would be added to the back of the machine to allow for more hose power.
A machine like this should have strong bags so only hepa bags would be made for it to reduce the chance of bursting.
The tools would be of better quality like horsehair bristles etc
Weight would need to be reduced where it could while also keeping it sturdy
I know i've talked about this before but if i were to design a vacuum I would base it off the Dirt Devil Ultra MVP, some of you may wonder why. This vacuum has the most airflow at the nozzle of any bypass upright i've tested. Running around ~130 CFM but they suffer from a weak brushroll motor/belt issues. This design has so much potential the performance of a direct air machine with the convenience of a bypass.
I'd want to use a suction motor with great performance but more efficient than the stock one to allow for a stronger brushroll motor. I think the Ametek 122454 motor used in the Patriot would be a great fit it maxes out at 9.6 amps but provides great flow and suction.
I'd also want to address the brushroll stalling issue by installing vent holes and a slider similar to what ZeroG or the Rainbow SRX does to allow it to clean soft carpet while also switching it over to a geared belt system and moving the belt path to one end of the nozzle.
New switches and locations would also make it much more user friendly the brushroll control is something I find annoying on the standard MVP
A diverter valve would be added to the back of the machine to allow for more hose power.
A machine like this should have strong bags so only hepa bags would be made for it to reduce the chance of bursting.
The tools would be of better quality like horsehair bristles etc
Weight would need to be reduced where it could while also keeping it sturdy
blackheart
Well-known member
Hmm
That's....definitely not a wessel werk ebk360.
That's....definitely not a wessel werk ebk360.
Its
Great vacs power nozzle upgrade.
Here's a pic. It's got on off on the left side six height adjustment on the right side a light and a reset button. It's height adjustment wheel on the bottom is similar to wessell werk.
Great vacs power nozzle upgrade.
Here's a pic. It's got on off on the left side six height adjustment on the right side a light and a reset button. It's height adjustment wheel on the bottom is similar to wessell werk.
Look at the
Great vacs version.
Power nozzle insignia same location. The reset button in exact same location it has the same height adjustment pedals. It's clear on the brush housing.
Idk what your looking at but it's not a great vacs wessell werk power nozzle?
Great vacs version.
Power nozzle insignia same location. The reset button in exact same location it has the same height adjustment pedals. It's clear on the brush housing.
Idk what your looking at but it's not a great vacs wessell werk power nozzle?
panasonicvac
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I'd actually love to see a Dirt Devil Ultra MVP like that! Though it'd probably be marketed as either Hoover or Oreck as I think that'd be too expensive to sell under the Dirt Devil brand nowadays, at least for portables since their central vacs are pretty pricey.
