kirbykid63
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I never seen this Tristar before
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suckolux
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Not a fan of that one
kirbylux77
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I have a theory on how this TriStar EX30 came to be in existence.
We all know that Harold Schoettler left Interstate Engineering, because Interstate was planning to steal his design for the next TriStar & terminate his employment. In 1989 he founded his company Schoettler Research & Engineering Corporation in Huntington Beach, California, & built the Patriot & Airstorm canisters.
I am thinking, since Schoettler left the company & took the designs with him, this was Interstate's answer to Schoettler's copycats, & their answer to what the next generation TriStar would be. TriStar here in Canada was still selling machines in 1993, the year this vacuum was made, with the 50th anniversary sticker, so it makes sense this model has one too.
Chances are, this was a experimental model in a limited market to test it out with the public to see if they would like it or not. And in this case, it failed. Hence why it is so uncommon & rarely seen. The only thing I find suspicious with this model is the serial number tag on the front....it isn't the same as Interstate Engineering made them before, plus they are usually date coded, the first two digits usually tell the year it was made, something not done with the serial number on this TriStar. That in itself is odd & suspicious.
I kind of like the design, though. It looks like some designer decided to put a modern spin on 1950's design, especially the filter grille at the back. And, since the EX30 has the newer style TriStar powerhead, we now know what year for sure the newer style was introduced. The only things I don't like are is it seems there would be no way to wrap the cord & still have the hose connected, & the filter grille in the back would eliminate the TriStar Filter Fresh system, & of course we have no idea if there would have been any optional exhaust filters for this EX30. It would have also been nice to have seen the hose handle upgraded with a suction release valve & on/off powerhead switch.
Rob
We all know that Harold Schoettler left Interstate Engineering, because Interstate was planning to steal his design for the next TriStar & terminate his employment. In 1989 he founded his company Schoettler Research & Engineering Corporation in Huntington Beach, California, & built the Patriot & Airstorm canisters.
I am thinking, since Schoettler left the company & took the designs with him, this was Interstate's answer to Schoettler's copycats, & their answer to what the next generation TriStar would be. TriStar here in Canada was still selling machines in 1993, the year this vacuum was made, with the 50th anniversary sticker, so it makes sense this model has one too.
Chances are, this was a experimental model in a limited market to test it out with the public to see if they would like it or not. And in this case, it failed. Hence why it is so uncommon & rarely seen. The only thing I find suspicious with this model is the serial number tag on the front....it isn't the same as Interstate Engineering made them before, plus they are usually date coded, the first two digits usually tell the year it was made, something not done with the serial number on this TriStar. That in itself is odd & suspicious.
I kind of like the design, though. It looks like some designer decided to put a modern spin on 1950's design, especially the filter grille at the back. And, since the EX30 has the newer style TriStar powerhead, we now know what year for sure the newer style was introduced. The only things I don't like are is it seems there would be no way to wrap the cord & still have the hose connected, & the filter grille in the back would eliminate the TriStar Filter Fresh system, & of course we have no idea if there would have been any optional exhaust filters for this EX30. It would have also been nice to have seen the hose handle upgraded with a suction release valve & on/off powerhead switch.
Rob
rugsucker
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Tri Star ??
I have seen nothing on this.While not as dramatic as AirWay going from Mo 55 to 66 it shows how an industrial designer can improve a product.I like it!Better pictures of filter area and hose inlet would have been helpful.With a proper filter under the door the added on,easy to knock off,ugly filter unit could be eliminated.As I see it the hose could remain connected as the cord is being easily wound on top(not bottom!) of vac.Attachments/wands could have been changed or lost.White elbo seems to indicate a broken floor brush replaced by Elux version.
I have seen nothing on this.While not as dramatic as AirWay going from Mo 55 to 66 it shows how an industrial designer can improve a product.I like it!Better pictures of filter area and hose inlet would have been helpful.With a proper filter under the door the added on,easy to knock off,ugly filter unit could be eliminated.As I see it the hose could remain connected as the cord is being easily wound on top(not bottom!) of vac.Attachments/wands could have been changed or lost.White elbo seems to indicate a broken floor brush replaced by Elux version.
dysonman1
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That is the first time I have ever seen that vacuum. I have never seen it referred to in any parts diagrams, or even on the Tri-Star website as a former model.
reo580
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That TriStar is BEAUTIFUL!!!
dysonman1
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That Tri-Star is on its way to the Vacuum Cleaner Museum in St. James, Missouri.
Anyone who wants to see it can stop by at any time, or plan a trip to the Vacuum Collectors Convention, second weekend in June, every year.
Anyone who wants to see it can stop by at any time, or plan a trip to the Vacuum Collectors Convention, second weekend in June, every year.
sleepdoc
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Awesome!
Glad it's going to the museum!
Glad it's going to the museum!
fantomfan
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I like it!!
Mainly because Tristars are great vacuums and this one is certainly unique.
Mainly because Tristars are great vacuums and this one is certainly unique.
compactc9guy
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Kit
to me its a kit
top part of a patriot put o nth e base of the Tristar CXL EX 20 whit the 50 anniversary edition sticker put ion it it screams tristar on the base but patriot on the top sandwich if you ask me .... some one took two machine and made one part of a Patriot and part of a Tristar CXL EX 20 thats my guess even the attachment kits scream TRISAR CXL from the power head hose ect tristar plus top of patriot equal tristar ex 30 the ex is only used on the CXL EX 20 after all i wonder
to me its a kit
top part of a patriot put o nth e base of the Tristar CXL EX 20 whit the 50 anniversary edition sticker put ion it it screams tristar on the base but patriot on the top sandwich if you ask me .... some one took two machine and made one part of a Patriot and part of a Tristar CXL EX 20 thats my guess even the attachment kits scream TRISAR CXL from the power head hose ect tristar plus top of patriot equal tristar ex 30 the ex is only used on the CXL EX 20 after all i wonder
dysonman1
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Here's what, to me, is so interesting about it. First of all, interstate engineering had to tool up to make it. Those are diecast metal parts. There was tremendous cost involved. Since it has the 50th anniversary sticker, it had to be designed well before the 50th anniversary. Another interesting thing is the power nozzle. That is the very last series of power nozzle, yet, the 50th anniversary of interstate engineering was 1997. We know that Electrolux bought interstate engineering in, I believe, 1999. Or 2000. Once I get the machine, the date stamp on the lam motor will reveal The approximate date that this machine was manufactured. I have never seen one before, nor have I ever seen anything at all in printing about it. This was not cobbled together, but actually manufactured by interstate engineering in California.
kirbylux77
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Tom
You have made some good points there. But, I think this must have been designed sometime between 1990 to 1992.
If you look at the back of the cleaner, at the end of the metal strip that houses the pn receptacle, there is a sticker that indicates a 93 on it. To me, this makes perfect sense....we all know Harold Schoettler left Interstate in 1989, so my guess is when he left & took the design, they had to start from scratch & scrambled to get a new design ready for market. Hence why the 50th Anniversary sticker stuck around for so long on the CXL model. It doesn't make sense to me this would have been designed sometime in the mid 1980's....why would they have another engineer come up with this design at the same time Harold Schoettler was with the company & designing what was supposed to be the new TriStar? It just doesn't make sense, in my mind, that a company would hire 2 designers with 2 designs for 1 product. I highly doubt higher levels of management would have known or be able to predict his departure from the company.
As for the PN being the last design, it could have been that it was just slowly being introduced to distributors in 1993, or, like the EX 30 itself, it was a experimental powerhead, & it just so happens this was one part of the design was kept & the rest scrapped.
Either way, I am glad that you were able to get the vacuum & preserve & take care of it in the museum, Tom. And it will be interesting once you get it & take it apart to see what the motor's manufacturing sticker shows it's date.
Rob
You have made some good points there. But, I think this must have been designed sometime between 1990 to 1992.
If you look at the back of the cleaner, at the end of the metal strip that houses the pn receptacle, there is a sticker that indicates a 93 on it. To me, this makes perfect sense....we all know Harold Schoettler left Interstate in 1989, so my guess is when he left & took the design, they had to start from scratch & scrambled to get a new design ready for market. Hence why the 50th Anniversary sticker stuck around for so long on the CXL model. It doesn't make sense to me this would have been designed sometime in the mid 1980's....why would they have another engineer come up with this design at the same time Harold Schoettler was with the company & designing what was supposed to be the new TriStar? It just doesn't make sense, in my mind, that a company would hire 2 designers with 2 designs for 1 product. I highly doubt higher levels of management would have known or be able to predict his departure from the company.
As for the PN being the last design, it could have been that it was just slowly being introduced to distributors in 1993, or, like the EX 30 itself, it was a experimental powerhead, & it just so happens this was one part of the design was kept & the rest scrapped.
Either way, I am glad that you were able to get the vacuum & preserve & take care of it in the museum, Tom. And it will be interesting once you get it & take it apart to see what the motor's manufacturing sticker shows it's date.
Rob
dysonman1
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Some pics after receiving the machine. The motor has a 1998 date stamp on it. As does the motor in the power nozzle
kirbysthebest
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Cool machine
Is this a prototype, or do you know if it was ever in production?
I like the styling, maybe they went with the more teardrop style to stay true to the heritage.
Is this a prototype, or do you know if it was ever in production?
I like the styling, maybe they went with the more teardrop style to stay true to the heritage.
dysonman1
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Having used it in my home to clean with a few times now, I will say it's much heavier than its counterpart, the CXL. Also, the ability to wrap the cord without taking off the hose, existed already. The downfall of the metal cord clip as well as the plastic 'clip' for cord wrapping on the EX30, is that you can't UNWRAP the cord all at once, without removing the hose.
I wish there was a way to add the 'mushroom hepa filter cap' to this machine, but the exhaust opening is positioned so that nothing will work. Even the old, black, 'microwave popcorn popper' type filter doesn't exit at the correct angle to lock on and work.
It's quite possible it's a prototype. I know with Tacony machines, prototypes get put into the field all the time. The huge cost for Tri-Star to tool up to build this would prohibit them from just making a handful for testing. Yet, no one knows how or why it came to exist.
I wish there was a way to add the 'mushroom hepa filter cap' to this machine, but the exhaust opening is positioned so that nothing will work. Even the old, black, 'microwave popcorn popper' type filter doesn't exit at the correct angle to lock on and work.
It's quite possible it's a prototype. I know with Tacony machines, prototypes get put into the field all the time. The huge cost for Tri-Star to tool up to build this would prohibit them from just making a handful for testing. Yet, no one knows how or why it came to exist.
TriStar HEPA filter cap-I always thought of those as the "pignose" filter.Only disadvantage of those is that they come off if the canister machine bumps into a wall or furniture-sometimes the air blast blows and launches the filter!Maybe funny for one or two times-but almost anytime I used it that happened.So--if my TriStar is used I use it very carefully so it doesn't bump into walls or furniture-but an EXCELLENT machine-BETTER than the "lux" design.
rwebb91
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Tom
I wonder if that was suppose to be the next generation of Tristars?
I wonder if that was suppose to be the next generation of Tristars?
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