Hyla

[williamr1248]

Just noticed that Hyla has added a new video users manual to their web site.
It shows the new updated shampoo system.
I like my Hyla but do not like the power nozzle or the short electric hose.
Somewhat similar to my older SE Rainbow but has less power than the new Rainbow and the power nozzle on the Rainbow is by far superior.
The new video gives a good view of the newest Hyla.
Also would like to add the buying experience was very nice from my Hyla dealer.

 

[sonnyndad]

I have a Hyla NST, which works very well for cleaning a fully carpeted home. I got at Goodwill for $15.

 

[mark40511]

15 dollars at good will for a hyla

That seems kind of rare for such en expensive machine. I wonder how something like that ended up at good will?

I've always wanted to try a Hyla, just to see what they are like.......

Rob - surprised you don't like that Wessel-werk PN.......those PN's are supposed to be really good.......

 

[williamr1248]

Hyla

Mark,
You said it "supposed" to be good.
Here is the problem I have with that power nozzle:

(1) the brush opening has no brush guard to prevent the edge of the carpet or rug from being sucked in or grabbed and stalling the brush roller.
Over and over again mine stops and you have to up end the power nozzle and use the reset button
(2) I found the brush roll design tends to collect hair
(3) there is no instant brush shut off on the hose handle
(4) Mine only has ONE small release pedal
(5) no direct connect wands

I think it would be better suited for doing large areas of wall to wall carpet
and of course I am comparing it to the new Rainbow power nozzle with quick connect electric wands and revolving edge brushes.
I like the larger diameter of the brush roll itself and the Rainbow seems to have a lot more air flow on the carpet.

 

[williamr1248]

Hyla

Here you can see on the back side the Rainbow has a quick release electric wand set up. Also prefer the padded top of the Rainbow with the step on handle release instead of the small release pedal on my Hyla.

 

[williamr1248]

Hyla

Here is the difference in the wands. I prefer the 2 piece electric direct connect set up.

 

[williamr1248]

Hyla

Mark,
I want to clarify that I am JUST comparing the Hyla power nozzle to my newest Rainbow with side belt and glass reinforced belt system.
The Hyla might work very good on wall to wall carpeting and where the user DID NOT have to change the type of cleaning but on my cut pile carpeting and where I need to change from power nozzle cleaning to tool usage the set up is much more user friendly with the Rainbow. No changing hoses or manual disconnect of the power cord and nozzle each time.
Also note on the brushes that the Hyla are much more aggressive on the lighter weight rugs and you will find a LOT more rug fiber in the water basin than the
Rainbow's power nozzle.
The Rainbow power nozzle pulls more fine sand and grit and the German power nozzle get more rug fuzz. At least that has been my experience on my particular rugs and carpets.
I also do not like the heavy stainless one piece wand set up with my Hyla and also the same situation with my Miele. The 2 piece electric wands for the Rainbow are easier to handle when doing other chores likes dusting.
Interesting note with the Rainbow wands it that the electric cord is covered on the outside with a vinyl strip. The wand is weighted so if it is dropped it lands on the vinyl side and does not scratch the polished floor like the unprotected stainless one piece wand.
These are all small differences that you notice when using the the different type wands side by side.

 

[williamr1248]

Hyla

Mark,
Also notice on the underside of the power nozzles, the Hyla has multiple screws that go into plastic. Removing the bottom plate takes more time and care not to strip the threads when clearing a clog on the air path.
The new Rainbow has a user friendly quick release where no tools are needed. Just push the release and turn the lock and the bottom plate releases for easy and quick ability to clean out a clog. No tools needed and no screws going into plastic base.

 

[jade_angel]

The Rainbow PN looks really well put together. Interesting that they're both automatic adjustment/floating, though.

Incidentally, the big differences between the EBK340 (what the Hyla has) and the EBK360 are that the 360 has a larger handle release pedal, manual height adjustment and a larger, contoured brush roll that seems to both agitate better and act as a fan. (If I lift mine off the carpet and disconnect the suction but not power, I find that it's generating not-insignificant airflow just from the brush.)

 

[electromatik]

People continue to rave about the new Rexair power nozzle. It sure does look quality made. When someone dares question the mighty Wessel Werk nozzles some have trouble believing it. I believe it after seeing them side by side. The Rexair clearly looks better made. The rug guards and the airflow slots make it for me. If ONLY Rexair would put a cordwinder on it I'd buy it in a minute.

 

[williamr1248]

Hyla

Chris,
I can only relate what my experience has been on my applications. I think both are quality products but the Rainbow power nozzle is clearly easier to use when I compare them side by side because of it's design features.
I related this story before on the forum but it is what sort of changed my thinking about the nozzle. We had new flag stone walks put in last year and had a huge amount of sand tracked into the house. This is where I could see a huge difference in the ability of the Rainbow to remove the fine sand from the deep pole carpets. Now was it due to the air flow of the Rainbow or was it the design of the new power nozzle?
Even my older Hoover's would vibrate the sand to the surface but left much to still removed. I think this is where a newer design and air flow factor in the end result.
I am on the second version now and it is my understanding there will be a 3rd design coming out in the future.

Boy I don't know about the cord winder. If it adds any weight, I would not want it as the Rainbow is already a heavy machine.