amtraksebo1997
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Here are some examples of what I'm talking about (the middle one is from my old school)
How does one retrofit disposable bags into pre-Tradition Kirbys?
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panasonicvac
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Vacuums aren't designed to vacuum up fog, you could try but that's better reserved for a air purifier. This proves my point that the fog test from Vacuum Wars is misleading, what I'm looking for is what I can't see with a naked eye and Bill proved that to me with a particle counter. Not a fog machine that's only designed to be used for events. Sounds like your school hadn't properly cleaned out the bags if they're covered with alot of dust as that's never happened to me before. I wash mine after dumping them out with no issues. As what Bill said, not HEPA rated. But I'd still buy one for myself, definitely over anything that Walmart has in their isles today. What I'd prefer is having a machine that uses a reusable shakeout bag that looks like a disposable one, my Bissell Big Green canister has one of those on that it came with when I bought the machine new. Overall, this hasn't and never will change any of my views on shakeout machines.
Anyways, thanks for the discussion
Anyways, thanks for the discussion
amtraksebo1997
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PanasonicVac
The point of the fog test is to test how well vacuums can filter and seal allergens that are 5 microns or bigger (particles that you can see with the naked eye). If it can't filter 5 microns or below, then what makes you think it's going to filter anything smaller? Sure, air purifiers are good machines for keeping good air quality, but I wouldn't want to rely on them (or the HVAC) solely for keeping the air clean.
The dump-out bags needing to be washed out does not help your point. Maybe my school's janitorial staff was negligent in terms of maintenance, but washing the bags just creates more downtime for when they're washed and dried. You could buy an extra set of dump-out bags, but at that point, you could do the same thing with a decent bagless vacuum, and probably get better filtration.
Now, can we get back to the thread's original topic, or do I need to defend myself again?
The point of the fog test is to test how well vacuums can filter and seal allergens that are 5 microns or bigger (particles that you can see with the naked eye). If it can't filter 5 microns or below, then what makes you think it's going to filter anything smaller? Sure, air purifiers are good machines for keeping good air quality, but I wouldn't want to rely on them (or the HVAC) solely for keeping the air clean.
The dump-out bags needing to be washed out does not help your point. Maybe my school's janitorial staff was negligent in terms of maintenance, but washing the bags just creates more downtime for when they're washed and dried. You could buy an extra set of dump-out bags, but at that point, you could do the same thing with a decent bagless vacuum, and probably get better filtration.
Now, can we get back to the thread's original topic, or do I need to defend myself again?
abobotek
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amtraksebo1997,
Not sure if you saw my post at https://vacuumland.org/threads/kirby-classic-iii-bag-conversion.46695
I converted my Classic III to bagged (twist/F) model without changing the original Sani Em-Tor or external appearance. I believe that this to be the preferred conversion because it can preserve the original look with minimum flow reduction and compatibility with twist bags. This does require a custom 3D-printed part - a fill tube adapter. Message me if you'd like the files for it. I could print one for you if you lack a 3D printer.
Another conversion option uses the Tradition's rubber fill tube adapter inside of an aluminum Classic Sani Em-Tor, and a narrower, flow-constricting Tradition fill tube with a Style 1 bag adapter.
The photos of my conversion show a blue Tradition bag, but that's because that's what it came to me with. (It had previously been converted to bagless using a Tradition fill tube and bag.) I don't know what mods might need to be done to the Classic III's bag to accommodate an inner bag, such as zipper extension, or if a paper bag can fit through the Classic's short zipper. I don't have a Classic bag, unfortunately.
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Not sure if you saw my post at https://vacuumland.org/threads/kirby-classic-iii-bag-conversion.46695
I converted my Classic III to bagged (twist/F) model without changing the original Sani Em-Tor or external appearance. I believe that this to be the preferred conversion because it can preserve the original look with minimum flow reduction and compatibility with twist bags. This does require a custom 3D-printed part - a fill tube adapter. Message me if you'd like the files for it. I could print one for you if you lack a 3D printer.
Another conversion option uses the Tradition's rubber fill tube adapter inside of an aluminum Classic Sani Em-Tor, and a narrower, flow-constricting Tradition fill tube with a Style 1 bag adapter.
The photos of my conversion show a blue Tradition bag, but that's because that's what it came to me with. (It had previously been converted to bagless using a Tradition fill tube and bag.) I don't know what mods might need to be done to the Classic III's bag to accommodate an inner bag, such as zipper extension, or if a paper bag can fit through the Classic's short zipper. I don't have a Classic bag, unfortunately.
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