HOPELESS ACCESSORIES/TOOLS

[vintagerepairer]

43

What cleaner is a 43?

 

[alexhoovers94]

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[sebo_fan]

Ah but its not bagless is, Alex? Had you actually read my post I say "bagless uprights" by Panasonic.

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

I had an AEG/Electrolux nimble about 3 years ago and their vacuums now come with this stupid "versatool", a crevice tool and upholstery tool in one, which was hopeless. There was no tight seal meaning it was useless as a crevice tool, and a ridiculously small suction port so it didn't work as an upholstery tool either. And it was bulky, always falling off the cleaner.

 

[alexhoovers94]

Oh right apologies then, Ryan.

 

[fan-of-fans]

That hole in the crevice tool must have been on European models perhaps? I know the Kenmore versions here didn't have it. We always had that really long crevice tool that could also be used as an extra wand for the dusting brush. They really could use that hole because the suction would make the hose spring back when the crevice tool was put on.

 

[beko1987]

Stupid short crevice tools that have the flip down 'dusting brush' on the end

 

[parwaz786]

Stupid short crevice tools that have the flip down 'dust

Lol more like DC25's, and I hate how the DC24 multi floor has 1 tool, which is a 3 in 1 tool.
The DC07 crevice tool is something I use the least, only because of the holes, but I normally use the end of the wand now instead of bothering to put tools at the end unless necessary.

The Dyson DC04 tools are the best IMHO

The DC14 crevice tool has the large hole and a stupid bend to it which makes it awkward vacuuming inbetween the car seats etc.
The Dyson kits have some nice tools provided though like a nice big soft dusting brush, stubborn dirt brush which is £5 from Mvacs
Flexi crevice tool with a nice brush at the end which is removable, and a mini turbine head which speeds up when there is restricted airflow!

 

[sebo_fan]

Another hopeless tool that springs to mind is one I bought well over 10 years ago and came in three parts with a cyclonic "filter" inside that clipped to the top and bottom "in between" two suction tubes. It claimed to be a "Bagless dust cup" that saved you from buying bags.

It worked - kind of - but would often fall apart from the two tubes. I think a newer one is available under different brands like Nilfisk and other generic universal brands. It might have improved, but I never once found it to be "bag saving" despite its good invention design.

 

[hi-loswitch98]

I'm sure that is under the Hometek name somewhere.

 

[madabouthoovers]

That " bag saver" was featured on the last line of Wertheim bagged cylinder models, although I cant see how it would have saved bags, seeing as it would let through the fine dust that clogs the bag's pores, and stop the larger particles, so the bag would still clog and need replacing even though it wasn't full.


 


I think the most useless accessory was the Kirby "massager" that was supplied with many models as an optional extra. How could anyone want a massage with it when it made such a loud noise in use was beyond me.

 

[beko1987]

This is what I mean...

 

[beko1987]

Useless hopeless pile of crap! No idea what machine it cane from. Possibly many...

 

[madabouthoovers]

3 guesses at where that was made eh Beko? China, China, or China?

 

[anthony]

for me

its got to be that useless gismo Kirby have i think its use is for head massage what a total waste of plastic dont get me wrong i love my kirby but that thing has to take top place on this thread guys

 

[vintagerepairer]

At the price which people pay for Kirby cleaners in the UK, I'd like to see an attachment which examines the consumers head from the inside, rather than massaging it from the outside.

As I said in another thread just now, I'm all for people buying what they want at a price they are happy to pay, but I've never been able to see the attraction of spending such a vast amount of money on a vacuum cleaner when there are plenty more cheaper alternatives

 

[madabouthoovers]

Kirby massager

That's exactly what I said - having experienced how noisy these things are, they would have given the user a headache, let alone a comfortable massage! They were better to be use as a sanding tool with a sanding pad attached.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Benny - like Dyson, Kirby employ salesmen whose job it is to convince a prospective buyer that their life is just not complete unless they have a Kirby vacuum cleaner.


Dyson uses the media to sell his vacs to people, and pressure salesmen when they go to the likes of Currys. Kirby relies on pressure salesmen alone, who will come into your home and wont leave until you have signed on the dotted line. More often its the older generation how fall victim to these salesmen. They will agree to buy a Kirby just to get rid of the salesman out of their house, then sell the Kirby on ebay a few months or years later virtually unused.

 

[sebo_fan]

Well, its like that with everything though isn't it? I mean, there I was quite happy with my parents old LG washer until it required a couple of parts that weren't justified to repair and I'd be better off with a new LG washer. I stuck with LG because i've been happy with their performance.

However for those who can afford it, Miele make really expensive washing machines. Yes, they're well made and yes they're well thought out with some really unique features - but that's my choice to stay with LG "middle premium," compared to expensively over priced machines that do the same thing as the LG, yet uses an old drive belt to turn the drum.

Pressure sales in a public franchise are nothing to worry about - you can walk away - whereas a Vorwerk home demo or Kirby pressurises you to sign on the dotted line - they are not the same.

 

[madabouthoovers]

I've been pleased with LG as well - they have come a long way since the days of  when they were "Goldstar" as Benny said elsewhere


Hence the name LG, comes from Lucky Goldstar. I remember the old Goldstar video recorders and other electricals, and also as Benny said, they were not that brilliant in quality. Since they have been LG, they have improved their image no end.

 

[tolivac]

The Kirby tool I don't like is that stupid bare floor-carpet combo tool.and other brand floor-carpet combo tools-none of these work good-and some of the combo tools the carpet brush pops down if the tool is bumpted.And of course the other combo tools mentioned-I want separate attachments-forget the "James Bond" stuff.Esp for the price you pay for the Kirby-they could provide separate floor and carpet tools for the hose wand.Or for bare floors the duster pad that attaches to the regular carpet nozzle.

 

[godfreys_guy]

Wertheim Dust Accelerator

"That " bag saver" was featured on the last line of Wertheim bagged cylinder models, although I cant see how it would have saved bags, seeing as it would let through the fine dust that clogs the bag's pores, and stop the larger particles, so the bag would still clog and need replacing even though it wasn't full."

Yes it also gave an electric shock to many people, myself included. It was my store manager at the time that ordered the recall. In Fact, it had been recalled once before, and once after the linked recall!

Let's face it, there are lots of hopeless accessories but this takes the cake for also being very dangerous.

http://www.recalls.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/995683

 

[floor-a-matic]

That "bag saver" was included with the Eureka Europa canisters here in the USA

 

[Mike81]

HQ Turbo Brush

Easily the HQ Turbo Brush Vario. It is sold under several brand names and is apparently quite popular. Watch the picture and you may recognize it. It is cheap copy of Wessel Werk TK 284.
What makes it almost useless is the brush bar position. It DOES have floating mechanism, BUT it is locked to the upper position so it barely touches the carpet.
You have take it apart and modify it so floating mechanism allow brush bar to freely float like it supposed to do.
This is one of those thinks what makes you wonder. What they were thinking!

 

[sebo_fan]

That reminds me of the Hoover J57 "Grande" turbo nozzle that Hoover UK sent me to use instead of the awful floor tools with my 32mm fitting Idol bagged stick vacuum. It has to be the worst turbo nozzle I have ever used. I tried it on my TeliosPlus with a 35mm adaptor and the thing just refuses to move. Tried it on my 32mm fitting Zanussi bagged cylinder vacuum with 1800 watts and it still refuses to whizz up. It's a Hoover branded turbo brush but there's nothing "grand" about it IMHO.

 

[sptyks]

There must be something jamming it up on the inside. Can you spin it with your fingers?

 

[sebo_fan]

it spins freely but it is just very slow and poorly made.

 

[human]

Any turbo nozzle

I have never encountered any turbo nozzle of any brand that works worth a toot. As soon as you bring it in contact with the carpet, it stops spinning. Now, I will admit I haven't tried every turbo nozzle out there but the universal disappointment I have experienced with the ones I have tried leads me to believe firmly that if a nozzle has a rotating brush and it doesn't have a motor driving it, it's a useless hunk of plastic. I will accept the possibility--however remote it may be--that there is a turbo nozzle out there somewhere that actually works as advertised, but I've decided to stop trying to look for it.

 

[sebo_fan]

Well, the Wessel Werk ones made by Miele and SEBO both appear to work to a high speed for me but both have air valve outlets that compensate for the "driving down" into carpet that reduces the spin. Hoover Europe have started doing "their own" in the form of Chinese copied "H-Lab" branded tools and in some cases, it shows up badly when it comes to performing. The one I bought as shown in the previous post has a slider but it actually stops the nozzle from spinning for cleaning hard floors. It doesn't do a good job at all, and even when slid to activate for spinning brushes, there's hardly any spin.

 

[Mike81]

I have owned several different turbo nozzles and only one that have acceptable brushing power is the Electrolux ZE 013. Bristles in it stick out from the sole plate quite much. Brush roll in it has spring loaded float mechanism. Not free floating like others I have used.
However I tend to use the powerhead much more often (obvious reasons).
In the link my Electrolux ZE 013 turbo nozzle in action.

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM3n5-0Am48