Hoover Vs, Eureka

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I agree Hans. The Convertible was a HUGE step back for Hoover. The 60 series (including the model 29) were so much better than Convertibles. Hoover went down the toilet (in so many ways) when the cheaper Convertibles were introduced.

Eureka cleaned better than Hoover due to the bag design.
 
Convertible vs F&G Eureka

I find much to like on both variations. And because there were so many variations on each theme it keeps both lines interesting. Eureka deserves much credit in retaining the blue and red Sanitaire line and in still making a resedential F&G Boss upright. In a world of over weight, plastiky bagless made in China stuff it's refreshing to pull out a Boss or late model early 90's Convertible that weight's so much less but does so much with a mere 5 amps or so in a nice looking sturdy package.
 
I've always looked at Eureka as the competitor to Hoover and I would rather use the original. Don’t get me wrong Eureka uprights do clean well and I do own one Eureka upright a Vanguard. I really don’t want to collect the competitor’s vac. Know what I mean. Then again some collectors would say all other brands besides Hoover are bo-jack anyway. I don’t quite agree because I do like my Electrolux tanks, G.E. Swivel tops, Kirby uprights, etc. However when it comes to Hoover vs. Eureka I would rather have a Hoover. That’s just my opinion which probably doesn't amount to much anyway!
 
Kenny!

Your opinion is as important, if not more,  as everyone else's.


   I could have quoted The Addams' Family ("Morticia")... "Don't be so hard on yourself.  That's MY job".


  I agree that Eureka was always Hoover's rival.


  I had to run a Ureka in the rectory.  I don't own one.  I won't, either.  BUT, I'd never bash anyone who does. I'd never say, for instance, that HOOVE could do no wrong,   it's just MY preference. That's why there's chocolate and vanilla, I suppose.


John


 
 
Anytime, Kenny.

True,  when friends poke fun at friends OR knowingly "in jest",  it is nice.  Then,  sometimes,  people poke fun at others and it is childish,  mean, scandalous, and sometimes, illegal.


 But, when/if we know with whom we are dealing,  it paints a very clear picture.


  You, Kenny, do not have a mailicious bone in your body. Anyone who has met you in person can attest.  Those who've never met you must has realized it, too.


 
 
I like both, but prefer the Eureka Rugulator or Dial a Nap carpet selectors better, as they raise and lower the front wheels, instead of the rear wheels on hoover convertibles.


 


 


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Bud
 
I guess because we lived close to Illinois Eureka was more popular where I grew up. There were not many folks who owned Hoover and most were Eureka canisters.

Personally, I have always felt that Eureka cleaned better. The Vibra-groomer 1 has stood the test of time. I would agree with Hans that the early models did drive much better due to the weight of the metal base.

Kirby and Electrolux were very popular as was Air-Way. Not many folks owned a Filter Queen or a Rainbow.

Growing up with a Kirby and Working with Royals at the school, those are the machines I am partial too.
 
I like both

There are different aspects about each I enjoy. As far as looks, I really like the streamlined design of the Hoovers. Something about styling of the Eureka uprights just doesn't appeal to me (with the exception of those beautiful chrome and Blue Eurekas - simply stunning!) The bag system is worlds ahead on the Eurekas, and I feel like they really grab my rugs more than convertibles. However, It seems like both machines pick up tons of filth from the floors.
 
I would have to agree that over its history, Eureka did a lot of copying rather than innovating. But sometimes Eureka made the feature better - just like Japanese companies eventually improved upon American cars, televisions and even vacuum cleaners (Panasonic ended up making a better Dial-a-Matic).

One thing I believe Eureka proved: you really don't need beater bars to effectively agitate a carpet - rows of bristles can do the same thing as exhibited by Eureka's Disturbulator brush roll.

I think Eureka also eventually figured out a way to effectively grab all the suction from an upright's fan to use for attachment cleaning. First, it introduced a Bottom Plate to close off the suction from the brush roll windows, then it developed the pan converter which was also eventually adopted by Hoover. Airflow was never really great with both companies' "fan-first" uprights, but the pan-converter was the best way to grab whatever suction was produced.

I also think Eureka's attachments were better than Hoover's: when Hoover cheapened their upholstery nozzle by eliminating any bristles or rubber fingers, Eureka still offered one with a nice strip of bristles. Though Hoover's attachment system prevented tools from falling off, the locking mechanism did not allow the user to rotate the tool to a more comfortable or useful position. On the other other hand, Hoover introduced a much better bare floor nozzle with the Dimension canister which picks up dirt on both the back stroke and the front stroke (though I think Kenmore innovated that design).

Some other features Eureka offered to buyers before Hoover: an all plastic Tool Caddy, power nozzles for canisters, cord reels on uprights, top-fill upright bags, the Groom-a-Pet tool, easy-to-replace brush roll strips, front end upright height adjusters. Though other vac-makers innovated these features, Eureka copied them before Hoover.
 
A nice thing is....

if you really like the style and performance of the older Eurekas, but want the present day cleaning performance for today's rugs and carpets, you can buy a Sanitaire. You can do the same with Hoover I suppose with the current Guardsman line, but to me personally, I think the Sanitaire beats them out on both style and performance, with the chrome hoods, front height adjuster, and vibra groomer brushrolls.
 
Not to hijack the thread, but how has Kirby compared with Hoover and Eureka at convention competitions?
 

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