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Hi i need some advice about the right replacement flex to get for my 1969 Hoover Senior.
Can anyone tell me the correct details of what to buy?
Thanks
Mark
 
Yes it has. But flex is now measured in mm. You will need a minimum of 0.75mm to be sure, and make sure it is 2-core. I cannot count the times I repaired a cleaner which had three core flex fitted, when the specific model dictated two. It will cost you more and will twist more easily when wrapped around the cord hooks. Most vacuum cleaners require 0.75mm, a lot use 1.00mm if the motor is more powerful. Some say the slight extra thickness of 1.00mm makes it more durable.
 
Yeah thats exactly what happened to the Senior i need to replace the flex on, it had been fitted with a thick three core flex which was far to big for it so it had to go.
 
The number of cores. Not being sarcastic, I'm stating a fact. A basic one, but a fact. Every cable and flex has one or more wires or 'cores' inside of it. Domestic flex for everyday appliances always has at least two and sometimes three, if an earth connection is needed. Some fixed appliances like gas boilers need 5 core if connecting to other apperatus.
 
Well that is exactly what it is. Now, many vacuum cleaners past & present (though less so today) have required an earth wire. The reason for this is that there are metal parts on the cleaner which are considered potentially liable to come into contact with a live wire, in rare circumstances. How this is decided and who decides it I don't know as this is not my area of expertise. A lot of Wet & Dry cleaners had earth wires, as did a good many older dry vacuum cleaners.

Most cleaners are double insulated, which in it's basic form means that there is enough none-conductive material between live parts, even if a live wire became loose. A rating plate will usually indicate whetehr or not an appliance needs an earth, by saying the words earthed / double-insulated, or by displaying the respective logo. You will have to search Google for that.

However, a lot of DIY people replace flexes on appliances, and get it wrong. The two worst things which someone could do would be to fit a flex which was too thin for the job it was required to do, and fitting a 2-core flex to an earthed appliance. Other issues are using ordinary PVC flex on items like irons, not fitting cord clamps correctly, and so on. On vacuum cleaners, a classic trick is to use three-core flex to replace a two-core. Although there is essentially nothing wrong in that, the earth wire needs to be cut right back at both ends for it to be safe. It is just rather sloppy practice to use three-core, if nothing else. But it is sometimes very impractical too, as getting it through the cord sleeving and grips can be difficult if the flex is thicker. Also as I said earlier, the three cores make twisting much easier and on a vacuum cleaners the cores will eventually overlap and twist as a result of winding & unwinding the lead.

The worst possible use of three-core flex comes from a DIYer deciding to fit a three-core flex and utilise the earth wire by attaching it to a metal part of the appliance. There is no need for this if the cleaner is clearly marked as being double insulated and in some cases it can be argued that it makes the appliance more dangerous, should the earth wire ever get disconnected and made contact with the live. However, that could probably be said of any earth appliance.
 
You just need to be lucky like me and find a 100M reel of white, 2-core 6Amp cable for a fiver at a car boot sale, proper stuff too, I've put some on my Electrolux C12 (even though it's desperate for a new set of bearings).... :P

Handy for all them vac rewiring (aswell as other things) needs... :D
 
2CV...depends on if that £5 flex was counterfeit. May not be quite the bargain it looks...Not saying it is, but there is a lot of it about at the moment. Actually, I've been rather paranoid about buying flex and cable these last few years.
 
Informative as always Benny!

My 1982 Electrolux 502S doesn't have an earth wire, but my 1977 HOOVER Ranger does.

The reason for that I expect is that the Ranger is made using a lot of metal parts, where as the Lux is mostly plastic.
 
No...the ranger was not earthed. If it has an earth wire then it is a replacement flex. You need to refer to the rating plate which will say double insulated, either in writing or by using the double insulated symbol, which can be found on a google image search. This was the point I was trying to get across earlier. In many cases it will be quite obvious whether an appliance needs an earth, just by looking at the wiring arrangment inside of the machine, but the rating plate with usually indicate one way or the other.
 
Very possibly knocked off, who can tell. But like I said, there is also a massive ammount of counterfeit cable doing the rounds too. It's actually very worrying.
 

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