Hoover junior 1224 supressor

[jake1234]

Hello everyone,

Today whilst i was vacuuming my house with my hoover junior 1334 the suppressor blew. To stop this frightning experience from ever happening again i have took the sensible decision to remove the suppressor from all of my vintage vacuum cleaners. One of my models is the hoover junior 1224 but i am not sure wether this has a suppressor. I would like to know before taking it apart so if someone could just give me a yes or a no to if it has a suppressor i would be more than greatful.

Thank you, jake

 

[huskyvacs]

I wouldn't recommend just blindly removing all the parts out of fear.

 

[jake1234]

Bang!

I know its a risk but i dont want the other vacuum cleaners to go bang like the 1334 did!

 

[cal]

Hi Jake,
Looking through the 1964 Hoover parts catalogue, the 1224 has a TV choke listed as part no 619481, the 1334 suppressor is part no 618164, so it doesn't sound as if they would be compatible. I certainly wouldn't start stripping the 1224. If you are able to hold out until after Christmas, I have a 1334A base & motor which I was going to scrap as the housing is cracked and the motor bearings need replacing, I will see if I can get the suppressor out of it as a donor to your machine.

 

[jake1234]

Thank you but,

I dont want to replace the suppressor in the 1334 as they can blow up like the previous one did. I was asking about the 1224 becaue i wanted to know if it had a suppressor or not because if it did i wanted to remove it and throw it away not put it in the 1334. The suppressors in vintage machines are prone to blowing so they are better off just being removed.




Jake

 

[garlee]

Yes the Hoover Junior 1224 has a suppressor in the motor whereas the Hoover Junior 119 didn't

 

[madman]

Well, now that it's been necroposted already, what the heck is a suppressor? Is it like a choke?

 

[huskyvacs]

No necroposting rules here.

What the suppressor is for in vacuums is back in the old days of radio, TV, etc. in the 50s and 60s everything was very sensitive to electric currents and whatnot traveling in the air. Even in the 80's as well with C.B. radios and other electronics. Running your vacuum cleaner, the motor current would start scrambling the TV and radio signals and affecting them. So they fitted a capacitor within the vacuum to reduce this current flow and trap it so that it doesn't interfere with any electronics devices. When I had a CRT TV, my Eureka Optima would cause little bits of static and blips on the TV every time I got the vacuum near it, and more than once I had a cheap Sylvania CD player/stereo that would just randomly turn on from across the room as the vacuum was doing something to the IR receiver that made it think I was hitting the remote. But like all capacitors over time, they will leak and short out, which is why the next time they get turned on and current tries to charge them again, pop goes the weasel.

 

[jake1234]

Suppressors

The problem is its not just when the vacuum is initially turned on that they can blow. They can blow when the vacuum has alrrady been on running and they can actually blow during use. I was using a vacuum once and the suppressor blew 25 minutes into vacuuming! I was vacuuming as usual with no problems and I was 25 minutes in and then the vacuum just went BANG! then POP! and it just kept doing that until it stopped about 20 seconds later. Then it cut out and wouldnt come back on until I had removed the supprrssor. The vacuum I am talking about was an electrolux upright. Thats why its good practice to always remove the suppressor from a vacuum you are fixing or servicing. It was mainly analogue equipment that was bad for interference problems when a vacuum came near. Typically analogue television. But this has been switched off around me since 2009 so suppressor removal isnt a problem. To be honest, even when analogue was still about I can never remember having any interference troubles with any of the televisions due to a vacuum interfering. The problem is not all vacuums have one which is why I was asking in the thread I originally posted if there was a suppressor in the Hoover Junior 1224.

 

[madman]

Ah, I see. Makes perfect sense. You know, capacitors are like... very easy to come by. It's not like some old rare thing that isn't made anymore. But hey, who the hell's going to be listening to AM radio or even watching TV while somebody's vacuuming nearby? Would be kind of hard to do with vacuum noise in the room, anyway, so what's a little added radio interference?

Also if there's one thing I despise, it's having 3 different names for literally THE SAME THING. (Capacitor, condenser, supressor.) Stupid english language.

 

[beko1987]

I've had many blow, horrible things! I remove them as a rule nowadays. Probably essential in the 60s, 70s and 80s but useless today. Infact I showed an Electrolux 500 series running with both supressors removed with my tv on and not a drop of interferance! All Tv is digital in the UK now, and although I don't have a radio (stream it if I want it on the Google Home)I imagine that would be fine now.

 

[huskyvacs]

I figured these must have been a UK & England thing, because I've never seen one here in the USA, or heard of one. Not sure if we had them in our vacs.

 

[madman]

Doubtless some silly regulation that doesn't exist on this side of the pond.