Hoover experts: missing Convertible U4007 speed switch actuator 18588

[superocd]

Hi all, I recently acquired a U4007 Convertible. It had been broken down to clean and refurbish. Upon putting it back together, I realized that the speed switch actuator was missing. A search in my garage turned up nothing, so I have to buy one. Apparently the part (18588) is NLA on all the parts sales sites I could find. It also cannot be found on eBay or Amazon, however, I found a Convertible actuator (38452028 C1) and was wondering if it would work with my machine?

Failing that, what else could I do? I could do without the high (hose) speed since I do not have a hose and do not plan on buying one, so if there is a way to permanently wire it for low (floor) speed for worst-case scenario, I'm willing to do that.

 

[kloveland]

Is the whole switch missing or just the arm? If you are going to use the upright without the hose it should work fine. You shouldn't have to rewire anything.

 

[bnsd60m9200]

photos would be helpful. if the actual speed switch itself is missing the machine wont even turn on.

 

[superocd]

I have the switch but I'm just missing the actuator arm. I'm assuming that the actuator depresses the switch when the handle is lowered for floor mode (low speed), and as soon as the handle goes up, the actuator is taken off of the switch, making the motor run on hose (high) speed. Is that correct, or is it the other way around? I don't know a whole lot about Hoovers as this is my second one in my collection (other is a Convertible JCPenney ca. 1974, which is very similar to this one).

I have heard that hose speed for floor mode is bad for the motor, which is something I do want to avoid.

 

[2011hoover700]

In a u4007 the speed switch actuator is actually activated by sliding the hose converter under the bag in the back I'll look for 1 and I'll send you a picture of what 1 for a u4007 looks like.
Hopefully this helps.
2011hoover700

 

[superocd]

Here are my thoughts. Hoover experts, please chime in!

Since it is highly unlikely that I am going to find an actuator arm and since I am OK with not having high motor speeds for a hose I don't have, I have been considering to bypass the switch.

There is one lead coming in on one side of the switch from the cord. On the other side of the switch, there are two leads going to the motor: one black, one white. I am thinking that the black lead supplies power to the coil for low speed and the white lead, along with the black lead, supplies power to the coil for high speed. My plan was to connect the lead from the cord to the black lead and cap off/isolate the white lead.

Would this work?

 

[kloveland]

Yes

That would work.

 

[bnsd60m9200]

there's no need to do that

the machine should run on low without the switch arm for high speed. if it doesnt run at all, the speed switch is bad, or your on off switch is bad.

 

[superocd]

Hmmm...

My motor runs on low when the switch is depressed, but runs on high when the switch is NOT depressed (at least from what I remember, I could be wrong, I was only able to look at it for a few moments -- I've been having 50-55 hr weeks for a while due to A/C season. Lots of calls, not enough service techs, LOL). I will have to double check. I'll report back. If that is the case, maybe I reversed the leads going from the switch into the motor. I'll have a better look Mon since I'm being rotated off being on-call (finally!) and will be off.

 

[kloveland]

Will is right

Just switch the wires around coming from the motor on the switch. It should look like this and connected just like in the attached picture. It'll run fine without the arm it just won't engage the motor into high speed when using the attachments. I three u4003s.

 

[superocd]

Lo and behold...

The white and black leads fron the motor were reversed, causing the motor to run on high when the switch was not depressed and on low when the switch was depressed. It's back to normal again sans the actuator arm. Now, I'm just finishing the primering/painting of the handle and converter plate and I'll be finished.