repairman
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Can someone please post the wiring configuration for a Power Surge on a Hoover Concept One where the switch is in the handle?
Hoover Concept Power Surge Wiring
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I received the switch in the mail a couple days ago and connected it using the configuration shown below. I have the terminal coming off of the cord going into the single terminal on the bottom. Everything works as it should but I noticed when shutting off, there is a spark in the switch and I smell something electrical. Is that the grease in the switch burning off?
I received the switch in the mail a couple days ago and connected it using the configuration shown below. I have the terminal coming off of the cord going into the single terminal on the bottom. Everything works as it should but I noticed when shutting off, there is a spark in the switch and I smell something electrical. Is that the grease in the switch burning off?
madman
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The grease may burn a bit, I doubt you would smell it. A noticeable spark means the switch probably has a problem. Make sure it's fully engaged to one position or the other. If it's an old switch, it's possible it has arced many times and burnt the PCB material the bottom of the switch is made of. Once it burns, it carbonizes and conducts electricity, and will continue to arc progressively worse.
I'm assuming it's a speed switch. Otherwise, why does it have three connections?
Even if it's a NOS switch, the old grease inside might be gummed up and causing this issue. Might want to open it, clean it thoroughly, scrub the contacts with a scotch brite pad, apply a light coating of grease, and reassemble.
I'm assuming it's a speed switch. Otherwise, why does it have three connections?
Even if it's a NOS switch, the old grease inside might be gummed up and causing this issue. Might want to open it, clean it thoroughly, scrub the contacts with a scotch brite pad, apply a light coating of grease, and reassemble.
suckolux
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They are a two speed switch, power boost on mine is pressure on only, spring loaded.
suckolux
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I know earlier models stayed in high setting.
dysonman1
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I would call the expert. John Gregory at Gregory's Sweeper Center in Dunmore, PA. 570-343-2020 He will gladly help you. That's the kind of person he is.
John has been a world of help to me by answering questions. He's a Hoover expert and owns a Hoover Service Center. His whole life is Hoover. Glad he got to meet a good number of collectors at the Pennsylvania thing last month.
John has been a world of help to me by answering questions. He's a Hoover expert and owns a Hoover Service Center. His whole life is Hoover. Glad he got to meet a good number of collectors at the Pennsylvania thing last month.
Mike,
I hope you got it all figured out.
Those are great machines. I never really used the "surge" on them OR the Decade 80 lineup.
I'm sure there are a few people who can guide you through.
I hope you got it all figured out.
Those are great machines. I never really used the "surge" on them OR the Decade 80 lineup.
I'm sure there are a few people who can guide you through.
huskyvacs
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The drive control on/off I believe all that did was lock the handle from moving up and down so you could not actuate the rod that pulled on the transmission lever. So needn't worry about that.
The power surge, I am not sure how they wired that. It looks like a 3 position switch. You have your hot and neutral and then a 3rd position that kicks in the overdrive on the motor, which I think only stayed there as long as you held it, so you do not kill the motor.
Sparks and ozone are normal in switches that are heavily used, it is from arcing and bad connection. You wouldn't see this with the switch installed, I am sure many switches spark worse than this, you just cannot see them. Would need to take the terminals apart and polish them clean, or try and get away with squirting electrical terminal cleaner in there a few times and operating the switch aggressively and hope it can clean some of it off.
The power surge, I am not sure how they wired that. It looks like a 3 position switch. You have your hot and neutral and then a 3rd position that kicks in the overdrive on the motor, which I think only stayed there as long as you held it, so you do not kill the motor.
Sparks and ozone are normal in switches that are heavily used, it is from arcing and bad connection. You wouldn't see this with the switch installed, I am sure many switches spark worse than this, you just cannot see them. Would need to take the terminals apart and polish them clean, or try and get away with squirting electrical terminal cleaner in there a few times and operating the switch aggressively and hope it can clean some of it off.
repairman
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This was a NOS switch in the package. The sparks aren't what throw me off, it's the smell. It's smells like gunpowder. I have confirmed with John Gregory that I have it wired correctly and I found a thread stating how to wire a Decade 80 Power Surge which came in handy.
repairman
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Huskyvacs: What grease would you recommend? Do you apply it to the contacts or the sides of the slider?
huskyvacs
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I was talking about a cleaning spray to clean the contacts from buildup so they don'tspark, but there is dialectic grease you can apply to stop the terminals from corroding and help them move smoother. Any good quality brand should do. You would apply it to the contact points. For the plastic on plastic contact I use something called EcoLube, it works well at permanent lubrication of plastic parts.
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