Hoover 63 on operating table

[camelotshadow]

cleaned the fan blades of motor
didn't open anything
tried to open top cover but it didn't look like it would expose much & I cleaned from side

don't know what I would grease if got it open

like top check brushes but only see one possible location for them

Doers this motor only have one brush?

Whats easy to check or do to maintain this that I can open pretty easily?

Thanks

 

[camelotshadow]

side view

I cleaned up inside there as much as I can
I;m not worried toomuch about greasing as this vac has had alot of service most recently 2003 so it was taken care of

the wires were really dirty though so I cleaned them up of dust & excess oily gringe best I could

 

[camelotshadow]

looks like upper bearing is under the metal plate on top of the fan?
Is that odd
what does it fit into?

maybe it does have only one brush
#12 carbon brush n spring
I can see a spring in there so its the brush
wondering why only one

wondering id I should I take it out to check?




http://www.elkypro.com/hoops2005/vacuum_parts/hoover/62.html

 

[camelotshadow]

is there a screw or something missing

there are 3 screws on the plate
looks like maybe there was some other plate on top maybe
there appears to be an empty screw hole
or is it an oil port?
on top

 

[junior1975]

Second carbon brush.

Hi,

The second motor brush is located underneath the black bakealite cover shown on the last pic, has the white lead going into it, just near the handle bail. You should need to remove the small round headed screw holding this cover on and this will expose the carbon brush holder.

All motors of this type have two carbons, this is to make the complete circuit on each winding on the armature.

I hope that this helps.

Happy hoovering,

Clark.

 

[camelotshadow]

thanks

thought there should be 2 on opposites sides

so perhaps that uncovered brush holder is missing a cap?
maybe something to do with that open screw hole?

 

[camelotshadow]

bakelite

is the hood n motor casing bakelite?
guess it could be considering its age
thought it seems different

also were using lucite I think in early 50's
as in parker pens

how can you polish it?
I have seen old pens rubbed out to a nice shine

 

[camelotshadow]

patient is back together

did some cleaning
oil springs
attempted to check on ebrush
I think that cover is missing
I see another screw hole on side
so it had a cover too
no sense opening things now
as if they break no parts
LOL

did pull the brush spring out
it has a copper wire in it
so put it back & clsed it up!

It still works

LOL

Should be better now that its clean under the hood
& wiped carbon dust off fan blades

Here she is all happy
& my bird is looking at the noisy monster

LOL

 

[camelotshadow]

this model took a c bag

I have a bojack dvc bag w bottom tube
I have a f n g bag in there as it works

how does the c bag differ?
should I get c bags for it or is this bag made for f n g?

Thanks

 

[camelotshadow]

Is the hoover body case aluminum?

looks like it
has anyone ever thought of polishing the base?
would be stunning

 

[lux1521]

I think the casing on this one might be magnesium, but I'm not sure.

I think I have seen one of the 60 series cleaners that had been polished. It looked pretty cool. The thing is, if your vacuum is painted, then it is most correct to leave it that way.

If you want a polished Hoover, and still have it correct, you need to get a 1927-1936(?) cleaner. Your always talking about a vacuums practicality, and these cleaners still clean very well compared to many modern vacuums. Actual use is not that hard either. They are not too hard to push or anything like that. For a pre-war vacuum, they are also very inexpensive and easy to come by.

 

[camelotshadow]

Hi Dr Lux

Thanks...
I;'ll keep mine stock
but was just thinking if one was really bad it might look nice buffed metal
but if its magnesium
then its a duller blue gray & won't be a hi gloss aluminum

Magnesium would be nice
strong n light

It really does clean well
but its not kirby or filter queen
StillI';m glad I found her dwelling amongst the other forgotten vacs & took her home
which wasn't easy as I had to take her on the bus...

talk about determination!

OOOh I dont want to look too much
for the fear I will find something else I can't live without

LOL

but I do like those old shiny hoovers w black bags

 

[camelotshadow]

So...Dr Lux

did I do OK?
What should I try to do when I have a patient oopen on the table.
In this case I went as far as my intellect told me was wise

I would one day be able to grease bearings if need be

 

[lux1521]

My personal technique with old Hoover motor repair is this: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Old Hoovers tend to last and unless something about it is bothering you, then I'd leave it alone.

If the base is magnesium, then I might not want to polish it. Magnesium is flamable when in small particals. In big chunks it is fine, but when ground up it can be dangerous. I have seen magnesium burn in a chemistry class, and it burns so bright you can't look at it directly, and so hot it strips the oxygen from water and burns even hotter! If the magnesium is bonded to something it is probably safe, but I would not try it without knowing more about the magnesium that Hoover used.

It is entirely possible that someone else here says I'm nuts about the whole aluminum thing, but I'm just being cautious.

 

[camelotshadow]

I'll go w that

esp since it was in a vac shop in 03.
I don't think uts had excessive use since then
as the bag was broke & it was full of dirt.
so I'm hoping its fine
but you hear some say dry bearings & worn
& I listen 4 every rumble

it works
it sucks up a area rug
so its doing ok...

alot of things are explosive when in dust form
even flour

She has a pretty nice though thin cot of paint
really thin as some of it flakes off easy if you remove dirt.

Anyway shes fine
just like a nicer bag in dark blue
then she'd be stunning

night

 

[swiveltop]

It looks real good,You did a great job, I got mine for a couple of bucks quite a while back,I brought it upstairs and it sounded and worked great, it had to go back downstairs to the garage since i have too many vacs up here and too little space,last time I turned it on it sounded funny when it first started,so it might need the same procedure as yours,Id like to restore it if I could find a decent bag.

 

[camelotshadow]

Congrats nice find

those models seem to have a thing for starting a bit slow or so I have heard
I suppose when a vac isn't used for a decade or more
lol
it can just get cranky til it wears in

It really does a decent job for its age
& would beat alot of the junk these days

they just run n run as this one seems to have been in use all its life as it has service stamps from 70 to 2003

nice darker bkue bag like the 62 had would be nice but in the c bag would be ideal

this was filthy when I got it
loaded with dust iside the case & bag
but I got it pretty clean

 

[aeoliandave]

Very very very nice cleanup job, Christine.

Your 63 was well cared for and used, not abused. Just spent a few months or years gathering grime for you to wash off to reveal the diamond.

 

[camelotshadow]

Thanks

It got messed up probably very recently
bag was either broken or incorrectly seated
its fng type spring bot load
& the entire bag was full of muck
there was alot in motor casing too
I originally just blew it out
& boy did alot come out

Now I found I had those same 2 screws out but wasn't sure if it was hood at that time but after looking it over I figured those had to be the screws from peaking under at the construction

have to take that off for lightbulb anyhow
it works & its a 25watt 120 v sylvania

my only peeve is the light bakelight seems to have warped a bit & doesn;t sit exactly symmetrical on both edges

oooh well...its minor