hoover 612

[z30soulbrother]

Hi folks
Just bought a 612 on ebay for £9.95!! awaiting 2 cleaners now! Happen to have a hose and converter for this one too! Have never used a 612 with hose attached. How exciting is all this!!! Pics to come as soon as the machines get here

Si

 

[rolls_rapide]

612

Wow, £9.95!! Well done!

The noise of the Hoover Senior 612 is best described as sounding "regal". It has a quality tone that is missing from todays "screamers". Probably something to do with the motor being vertical, as opposed to the off-horizontal 'Junior' motor design.

 

[z30soulbrother]

regal sound

Yes i used 1 years ago at a friends it is a wonderful sound. Ive got part of the toolset for it, converter, hose, both rods 1 brush

crevice, no blower, oh well, keep a lookout ay?
SI

 

[rolls_rapide]

You're better off than me!

I've got my Great Grandmother's 612 upright, with converter, hose, and upholstery brush. (No blower, no tubes, no manual).

Back in 1992/93, I contacted Hoover for agitator brushes. They sent a letter back saying the parts were "obsolete". I persisted, and finally got a set sent to me, free. (Thank God for Ye Olde Hoover Ltd.!)

I can't see modern Hoover/Candy/Gias doing that!

 

[rolls_rapide]

Speaking of Hoover/Candy

Around 2002/2003, I phoned Hoover Spares Dept in Bolton, for 612 agitator brushes. The person (can't remember if male or female) looked through the parts catalogue and came back with the response: "There's a first! - The brushes are removable from brushroll!"

I thought to myself: "There IS no hope!"

Sadly, they had none.

 

[z30soulbrother]

removable brushes

just goes to show ay?

 

[gottahaveahoove]

It could be worse!

They could ask "What's a bag"?

 

[rolls_rapide]

They could ask "What's a bag"?

Don't!!!

It doesn't bear thinking about! (faints dead away...)

 

[z30soulbrother]

parcel arrives!

here it is! latest addition!

 

[z30soulbrother]

revealing!

quick glance!

 

[z30soulbrother]

out and assembled

upright!

 

[z30soulbrother]

hose attached

hose attached and working

 

[z30soulbrother]

decent suction

decent suction seems more sealed than the later 652 series hose converter

 

[z30soulbrother]

back to rest

back to rest

 

[z30soulbrother]

model no

model no. is
j499465
Any idea on date of manufacture anyone? Everything seems origional and yes it does have that regal sound.Suction on the hose is surpriingly strong, better than i ever thought it would be on one of these machines. The back goes down and the motor pitch goes up when you cover the pipe. Looking at the connection it seems its designed that the only unsealed part is just enough to let both sides of the belt slip through, rather than the much more open gap left with the later rear 652 type converter
Si

 

[74simon]

Cool!

Glad you got the cleaner to go with the tools at last! I love the 612, I think this was one of the most imposing domestic Hoover cleaners.

I agree that the toolkit on the 612 (and 160 for that matter) are far more effective than the 652 type, although my modded one works much better than the standard one, it does that change of motor pitch now, and hasn't blown up yet!

I'll check my manual for the date in a bit if no one else gets the chance ;-)

Si

 

[vintagehoover]

You should always...

...use the shake-out bag Hoovers with the handle reclined when using the tools. It prolongs the life of the bag, and improves the suction by making the air-path simpler. If you use it with the handle upright, the air/debris hits the lower-back of the bag, and has to do a 90-degree turn!

 

[z30soulbrother]

well i never....!

cheers for that i never realised!... but now you mension it all the old ads and manuals seem to show this and i had wondered why, as the paper bag type tend to be shown using tools in upright position?
si

 

[z30soulbrother]

si

cheers mate
tell me again how you modified your senior converter
si

 

[vintagehoover]

The paper bag kind...

...have the bellows and outlet duct, which absorb some of the force of the dirt going into the bag. With a shake-out bag, the dirt shoots straight off the fan and against the fabric, which wears it away quite rapidly. When the handle's reclined, it has the full length of the bag to lose momentum before it hits the fabric.

Also, the bellows and outlet duct curve gently, making the air-path less abrupt than the right-angle in a shake-out bag cleaner used in the upright position.

 

[turbomaster1984]

LOL

I recently (this saturday) aquired a 612 which is sat in the garden shed awaiting restoration.

Pics to be posted when I get the camera off my better half....

R

 

[turbomaster1984]

Prisoner Cell Block H - I love this show.

Spot the 612

 

[z30soulbrother]

love it!

i love the way these machines just happen to be there in the background!
si

 

[z30soulbrother]

hieght adjuster

never knew they had one till today!

 

[aussie-plugs]

Automatic height adjuster for above-floor cleaning ...

You could adjust the height manually using that latch near the power switch at the left of the photo - push on the wheel carriage to create a gap between it and the baseplate, then flip the latch over to keep the wheel carriage at the higher setting. Additionally though, when you inserted the hose adaptor into the inlet at the right of the photo, the system automatically adjusted the height to get the brush roll away from the carpet because the adaptor fitted between the small notch attached to the wheel carriage. For added suction, we used to detach the belt - no worries about the brush roll fuzzing the carpet and more suction to boot!

Nick

 

[z30soulbrother]

cheers nick

will try that mate!

 

[74simon]

Hey Si,

in January 1952 production started at J462,200 and by July '52 it had made it to J512,300, which should give you an idea of when yours was built.

Here's a shot of the underside of my 6525C with the mod, been like this for about a year now. It's just a thin bit of metal, with a cut up part of an old loyalty card on top cut to shape, and all held on with gaffer tape! The cleaner hasn't suffered any ill effect, and I do think it has made it more usable.

Si

 

[z30soulbrother]

modified senior

Thats fantastic,Si! What i dont understand is why Dreffus didnt do this? It seemed that great effort was put into working out the elaborate design of the converter, with the brush roll lifter plate, and then letting it go out with a silly gap that could so easily be closed. Even going to the trouble of introducing a 2speed motor to correct the defect, when all was needed is what youve done! Unless i am missing something and the gap needed to be there for another reason? It looks like he formed a bit of a lip to receive the horns of the converter, why not go all the way?
Si

 

[myhooverco]

Remember guys...this machine was intended for "dusting" purposes. The guy that worked on this said that they purposely made it this way so that the fan would be protected. The thin nature of the converter itself prevents someone from sucking up larger objects. The US version had the two speed from the beginning and it was more of a gimmick than anything else. Closing the gap in the converter like this would limit some airflow for cleaning carpets. I am sure that they needed the largest opening possible to permit good airflow.

This is a clever idea especially if tool suction is very important. I have to admit that I too have done something similar, but your idea is much better thought out!

--Tom