Hilariously angry sounding Electrolux turbo brush
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sebo_fan
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Good video although that "loose" fabric isn't all that loose since it seems to be elasticated and covers the entire secondary mattress.
The design of the turbo brush is pretty much the same as many on the market; they're all noisy. I don't think I have experienced a low noise one unless of course you put the machine into the low speed if available, but then at the detriment of pick up.
It is one thing that brands seem to forget about; the noise of air driven turbo brushes.
The design of the turbo brush is pretty much the same as many on the market; they're all noisy. I don't think I have experienced a low noise one unless of course you put the machine into the low speed if available, but then at the detriment of pick up.
It is one thing that brands seem to forget about; the noise of air driven turbo brushes.
Yes all turbo brushes are noisy. They also struggle on the high pile carpets. This one has floating brush roll, but it is very stiff and don't float in practice. Brushes stick out from the soleplate quite a lot. For turbo brush. Brush roll in this is actually quite aggressive.
But what it comes to carpet cleaning airflow is too low because of small opening for the suction. This is problem with all air driven nozzles.
For cleaning the carpets I use the Miele SEB 216-3 powerhead.
But what it comes to carpet cleaning airflow is too low because of small opening for the suction. This is problem with all air driven nozzles.
For cleaning the carpets I use the Miele SEB 216-3 powerhead.
sebo_fan
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In the UK most owners with cylinders don't have a PN. Already some members on here prefer the air driven turbo brushes.
In my experience it doesn't matter whether the brush roll is soft or aggressive, or for the fact that it may have a floating mechanism - what really improves pick up in my experience are air outlet sliders, or air valves. It looks like there is a vent on the back of that turbo brush you have on the rear right hand side. Both my Miele and SEBO wessel werk style floor heads don't slow down on high pile, provided that the air slider is open. I also have a Hoover turbo brush (similar to the ones fitted to the Maytag Constellation) and it also has a rather handy air slider.
I might add thought that not all carpets are great with turbo brushes. I have found really thick pile to be a struggle with some air driven heads, but in general, I like the added fact that for the most part, air driven turbo brushes are lighter to push and lift up compared to PN's - the PN with my SEBO K3 is too heavy. I don't use it much.
In my experience it doesn't matter whether the brush roll is soft or aggressive, or for the fact that it may have a floating mechanism - what really improves pick up in my experience are air outlet sliders, or air valves. It looks like there is a vent on the back of that turbo brush you have on the rear right hand side. Both my Miele and SEBO wessel werk style floor heads don't slow down on high pile, provided that the air slider is open. I also have a Hoover turbo brush (similar to the ones fitted to the Maytag Constellation) and it also has a rather handy air slider.
I might add thought that not all carpets are great with turbo brushes. I have found really thick pile to be a struggle with some air driven heads, but in general, I like the added fact that for the most part, air driven turbo brushes are lighter to push and lift up compared to PN's - the PN with my SEBO K3 is too heavy. I don't use it much.
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I'm not keen on turbo brushes. The noise is soooooooo annoying and a lot of the airflow is used up spinning the brush.
sebo_fan
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I like them. I have recommend many to people who are on tight budgets, who have a very effective suction only cylinder vac and who really needed to buy an upright for carpets. When the prices at the time were too high, the cheaper alternative is an air driven turbo brush.
Link to a review to someone I "helped."
http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/vacuum-clea...-brush-floor-tool-for-numatic-henry/#/tab/opi
Link to a review to someone I "helped."
http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/vacuum-clea...-brush-floor-tool-for-numatic-henry/#/tab/opi
marcusprit
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If they have a tight budget I'd recommend getting a used Sebo upright on ebay.
I prefer an upright on carpet. A cylinder for hard floors and above floors. Turbo brushes are good if you are hard of hearing
I prefer an upright on carpet. A cylinder for hard floors and above floors. Turbo brushes are good if you are hard of hearing
sebo_fan
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I wouldn't, despite my name sake.
Sebo uprights aren't for everyone. Same as Numatics or a Miele. One has to remember that even if a SEBO is great for long term reliability and cleaning performance, other factors have to be taken into consideration:
1) Size of home for usage of the actual vacuum.
2) Types of carpet and floors the machine must be able to clean on.
3) Considerations of family usage or main user; whether they want something cost effective and long lasting as well as being practical and versatile.
4) Fast and effective cleaning - something that in my opinion the automatic sensor X uprights aren't always great for. The Felix is faster, down to its manual height adjustment, or even any of the SEBO cylinder vacs with air driven floor heads.
5) General pricing and availability of spares INCLUDING the factor that not all buyers want to shop ONLINE all of the time.
6) Actual COST PRICE of the vacuum in question and then factor in the costs of additional stuff like filters, bags etc.
Fine if you live in a place that has major franchises like Currys, Argos and JL nearby for SEBO spares, but if not you're sunk and restricted to online shopping. Don't preach to me about it -I live in an area where we are severely restricted by public transport, so I HAVE to do online shopping mostly all of the time.
Sebo uprights aren't for everyone. Same as Numatics or a Miele. One has to remember that even if a SEBO is great for long term reliability and cleaning performance, other factors have to be taken into consideration:
1) Size of home for usage of the actual vacuum.
2) Types of carpet and floors the machine must be able to clean on.
3) Considerations of family usage or main user; whether they want something cost effective and long lasting as well as being practical and versatile.
4) Fast and effective cleaning - something that in my opinion the automatic sensor X uprights aren't always great for. The Felix is faster, down to its manual height adjustment, or even any of the SEBO cylinder vacs with air driven floor heads.
5) General pricing and availability of spares INCLUDING the factor that not all buyers want to shop ONLINE all of the time.
6) Actual COST PRICE of the vacuum in question and then factor in the costs of additional stuff like filters, bags etc.
Fine if you live in a place that has major franchises like Currys, Argos and JL nearby for SEBO spares, but if not you're sunk and restricted to online shopping. Don't preach to me about it -I live in an area where we are severely restricted by public transport, so I HAVE to do online shopping mostly all of the time.
sebo_fan
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Another thing I love about air driven turbo brushes is that there are no cables attached. You can also fix it onto the main handle for cleaning stairs, use it in the car like on the backs of seats or boots but crucially, mostly all are just not all that heavy.
They're not all the same though - some can't be opened up for ease of cleaning, others don't have rubber squeegees for hard floor cleaning whilst others are poorly made.
They're not all the same though - some can't be opened up for ease of cleaning, others don't have rubber squeegees for hard floor cleaning whilst others are poorly made.
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You wouldn't recommend a Sebo Felix? I'm in shock :-o
If you're looking for a bagged upright in the UK it would hard to find anything better.
So what would your recommendations be Nar if your home is mostly carpeted?[this post was last edited: 3/9/2015-13:38]
If you're looking for a bagged upright in the UK it would hard to find anything better.
So what would your recommendations be Nar if your home is mostly carpeted?[this post was last edited: 3/9/2015-13:38]
First I have to say that I prefer canisters.
I have gone through number of turbo brushes. Philips, Wessel Werk copy, Miele and now Electrolux (best so far). I would say that they all are SO MUCH easier and more effective cleaning the carpets than the straight suction nozzle. I honestly hate to use straight suction nozzle on the carpets. Turbo head noise is just terrible.
However powerhead wins every time. It's silent, powerful and cleans deeper. It also can be used on the bare floors which is huge plus because there is no more need to constantly change nozzles between carpets/hard floors.
Owning the powerhead (Miele SEB 216-3) has its downsides.
I live in the country where powerheads are VERY uncommon. I had to buy my powerhead (after long searching) from the store which is specializing in household electrical appliance spare parts. Then I had to do ALL power connections and wirings myself. I was so desperate for the powerhead.
And top of all that my powerhead cost more than average vacuum cleaner.
But now I am pleased
I have gone through number of turbo brushes. Philips, Wessel Werk copy, Miele and now Electrolux (best so far). I would say that they all are SO MUCH easier and more effective cleaning the carpets than the straight suction nozzle. I honestly hate to use straight suction nozzle on the carpets. Turbo head noise is just terrible.
However powerhead wins every time. It's silent, powerful and cleans deeper. It also can be used on the bare floors which is huge plus because there is no more need to constantly change nozzles between carpets/hard floors.
Owning the powerhead (Miele SEB 216-3) has its downsides.
I live in the country where powerheads are VERY uncommon. I had to buy my powerhead (after long searching) from the store which is specializing in household electrical appliance spare parts. Then I had to do ALL power connections and wirings myself. I was so desperate for the powerhead.
And top of all that my powerhead cost more than average vacuum cleaner.
But now I am pleased
I have to add that I have recommended turbo brushes to several people. Like been said here it's easy way witout all the cables and the weight.
But I personally use the powerhead instead.
Difference powerhead vs Wessel Werk (copy) turbo brush:
But I personally use the powerhead instead.
Difference powerhead vs Wessel Werk (copy) turbo brush:
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Nice video Mike. I'd prefer a powerhead might be a little heavier than a turbo brush bit it's still light enough.
I think Dyson turbine heads are very good. Other turbo brushes slow down or stop once they hit the surface. Dyson ones never stop, they speed up no matter how hard you push.
Now the tangle free one does not tangle and it also doesn't slow down
I like them, however half of the suction is used to turn the turbine and the other half is at the brush. this means there is half of the suction at the surface. but then it is a good thing I guess for airflow to occur.
Now the tangle free one does not tangle and it also doesn't slow down
I like them, however half of the suction is used to turn the turbine and the other half is at the brush. this means there is half of the suction at the surface. but then it is a good thing I guess for airflow to occur.
sebo_fan
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You misread me Marcus. Whilst I will happily recommend a SEBO vacuum or Miele to anyone, it is usually knowing how much they are likely to spend before I can recommend anything.
When someone asks me for a good bagged upright that isn't expensive to buy, SEBO is far from my thoughts because buyers are looking to buy BRAND NEW and they want something tipping the scales at £100 and no more.
SEBO don't yet have an upright on the market brand new that costs £100. So, my recommendation either comes down to the cheap and cheerful Electrolux/Zanussi Powerlite OR those faithful Panasonic bagged uprights.
Where bagless is concerned, the Vax Mach Air Reach. In my opinion it has always offered top value.
Where bagged cylinder vacs are concerned, the Bosch BSGL3 series; they are usually priced below £100 or good old Henry.
When someone asks me for a good bagged upright that isn't expensive to buy, SEBO is far from my thoughts because buyers are looking to buy BRAND NEW and they want something tipping the scales at £100 and no more.
SEBO don't yet have an upright on the market brand new that costs £100. So, my recommendation either comes down to the cheap and cheerful Electrolux/Zanussi Powerlite OR those faithful Panasonic bagged uprights.
Where bagless is concerned, the Vax Mach Air Reach. In my opinion it has always offered top value.
Where bagged cylinder vacs are concerned, the Bosch BSGL3 series; they are usually priced below £100 or good old Henry.
sebo_fan
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A little bit heavier
Um, the SEBO ET-1 alone weighs 2.4kg ALONE. SEBO's equivalent TT air driven turbo brush? 620 grams. I know which one I'd choose!
Um, the SEBO ET-1 alone weighs 2.4kg ALONE. SEBO's equivalent TT air driven turbo brush? 620 grams. I know which one I'd choose!
sebo_fan
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Has Dyson brought out a main size tangle free turbo brush?
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Well being as a you can pick up a used Sebo Felix or X4 for £100 and it will last a lot longer than a budget cleaner they will be saving money in the long run, but if they are on a budget and HAVE to have new then they would have to go with the cleaners you mention.
You can order Sebo parts over the phone btw.
And 2.4kg should be ok even for the frail and elderly, still a lot lighter than an upright.
You can order Sebo parts over the phone btw.
And 2.4kg should be ok even for the frail and elderly, still a lot lighter than an upright.
