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[delaneymeegan]

 


So Benny, do you mean, if one took out Henry's bag and cloth filter, it could NOT then be used to clean up water/liquids?

 

[vintagerepairer]

That's right - Henry is a small dry vacuum cleaner. The wet vac is the Charles. The next one is George, and he wet cleans carpets as well as sucking up water.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Here is the inside of a Henry.

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwBrJ9H6vWA

 

[delaneymeegan]

 


ah well, I'm bemused by this realization.  I thought for certain, one of Henry's benefits was that he could do double duty.  In the event that during the rainy season(s), there was a problem with damp, Henry could clean up any mess he was served with. 


And THIS tid-bit was enough to make Henry's bulbous presence a worth while investment. 


But no........


 


 


And Henry is only a few inches smaller than my shop vac.   This makes Henry about the size of a Filter Queen.  The likes of which is very quiet and does an EXCELLENT job of filtering BUT; is very cumbersome, heavy, and would also not store on the top shelf of a wardrobe. 


Frankly, I would much rather use Henry, than a Filter Queen.


 


 


Benny, where does Charles get the water/liquid that he uses to wet-clean carpets?  


Does he have a reservoir with a pump that sprays the fluid through the tubing on the hose, or does he need to be connected to a water source like a tap?


 


 


 


 


 

 

[vintagerepairer]

Hello again. It's George that wet-cleans, and as you say he has a built in tank to hold the cleaning water. You fill it from the tap.

 

[delaneymeegan]

 


 


I like this commercial for George. 


Frankly, I've had the equivalent of George, quite a while back actually. 


 


It was called the Sears Cleanmore or the earlier versions were simply called the Kenmore carpet cleaner.


 


Bissell also had a crappy carpet cleaner in the 90s..... there's a reason they don't make these anymore.


As much fun as they were to me, to most people a canister style carpet cleaner is just too much work, for mediocre results. 


 


 



http://https//youtu.be/-cn91FJBbOg

 

[sebo_fan]

Delaney - respectively Numatic are a commercial company by trade and reputation. The Henry concept was to provide a dry only vacuum cleaner tub for commercial areas. The domestic versions were only brought out by customer demand and from there the company brought out specific editions to deal with domestic home mess. Numatic also sold an upright back in the early days but they no longer sell it.

In other countries Numatic have SEBO uprights under their name.

2 in 1 or 3 in 1 vacs do exist; they offer a similar design to what you have supplied here in terms of that Bissell. I for example, own a Vax tub vacuum and was only bought a few months ago after putting up with a Bissell carpet washer. When Vax came to market, UK owners had to deal with the size of adding those machines to their homes. Id hasten to add the size alone made owners realise the similar dimensions of a Numatic should they ever choose to buy one.

My late parents owned a Vax 3 in 1 model for 23 years. It does have its downsides; far more bulky to store than Henry (ours lived in our garage) but it offers a lot more power and 3 in 1 cleaning applications such as dry dirt suction, wet & dry function or washing carpet function.

There used to be other brands available in the UK such as Hoover, Electrolux and Goblin who all offered 3 in 1 machines, but they have gone out of popularity or production now. Hoover still sell a tub vacuum but it isn't all that well made.

Have a look at Numatic history on here - again there are archive threads. The first link (below) shows a lot of the old Numatic models and brochures.

http://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?17289 (first given as a link)
http://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?18959
http://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?17289

 

[turbo500]

Sorry totally off topic, but isn't that actually a really great thread? It's informative, it's interesting, there's debate with no arguements and a definite clear perspective from US and UK members without any "I'm right, you're wrong".

Bravo, vacuumlanders!

 

[sebo_fan]

Yes it is Chris - well may it continue.

Also Delaney - both Charles and George can use a 15 litre dust bag compared to the 7 litre bag on the "smaller" Numatic vacs.

 

[turbo500]

@delaneymeegan, the comparison you made above to the FQ is pretty accurate. A friend of mine has a FQ which he comparably paid a crazy amount for brand new. He wasn't happy when my reaction to trying it was "well apart from the powernozzle, it doesn't do anything a Henry doesn't!" lol. The size is very similar, although I would say the Henry has far more suction power, even with a lower power motor.

 

[gottahaveahoove]

I have relatives in Ireland, who always had Hoover Juniors

Those houses were always smaller than ours. My cousin came over to visit, saw my 140 yr old house. "It's a fine house", was his comment. He nearly died when he saw the basements, a brand new idea to him. His wife asked how we clean these monsters. I like the Juniors, and have a few of them. A "Dirtsearcher" is on my list of 'must gets'. THey now have a "Henry". I saw it when I was over there.

I haven't posted much recently. A lot has been happening, plus, many of you saw in Miscellanea that my beloved cat, arthur, died Nov 13.I didn't really feel like posting much.
So much to do before Christmas.
I keep on using my Hoover Convertibles, or, 'seniors", as they are known 'over there' .

 

[alexhoovers94]

To be honest the Juniors are even too small for many British homes.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Juniors

I think the consumers of the day were happy enough with the size of a Junior, Alex, given the millions of Juniors & other cleaners of the same size that were sold over the years. If they weren't happy about the size, I guess they simply loved the colours.

 

[sebo_fan]

When you consider the Junior had a fill capacity of 7 to 10 or so many litres of dirt, they're nothing like the small and slim compact uprights you can buy nowadays. Ironic really given that Juniors are supposedly smaller given the footprint of a Dyson ball upright. How times HAVEN'T changed.

Photo taken from Sam / beko's video of the old 119 Junior. The Junior seems to be faster to me on pick up.

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3CPA0dxXEo

 

[alexhoovers94]

No I am talking about the time it takes to clean a carpeted area with a Junior, for most UK homes it is still on the small side. Takes a while since the cleaner head is only about 9 inches wide and not the regular 12 inches.

 

[sebo_fan]

Perhaps all those years of owning a Hoover Turbopower has taught you that. I on the other hand don't find a huge difference between size widths of upright floor heads let alone combi floor heads on cylinder vacs. Infact from what you're suggesting, if the 12" size is quicker, it's more likely to get stuck in the path of cleaning under chairs. Not exactly quick then.

 

[gottahaveahoove]

All I'll say is....................

3 inches CAN make a world of difference.

 

[alexhoovers94]

Indeed it can but size doesn't matter, it's how we use it.

 

[vintagerepairer]

And with what, who, and how often also.

 

[gottahaveahoove]

Without

question.