Help please - Hoover Turbopower 1000 bit the dust...

[jmurray01]

Well I'll try and remove the motor cover and take a look.

How exactly would I burnish the commutator ?

 

[suctionselector]

Jamie

For such an advanced machine, yes, it is worth it!

Hopefully I can get one of these so I can have something over those low sucking Dysons I am trying to get rid of!

Good luck!

Best Wishes

Jacob =]

 

[ryry_87]

to clean the commutator up Jamie you'll need a comm stick, however if its not too bad, it can be done with a bit of wet & dry. If the commutator does appear black and charred, its probably a goner and cleaning it won't do much good. You're better off trying to find another motor.

 

[jmurray01]

Thanks Ryan, I'll check if I can get the motor casing off, hopefully it won't be too difficult!

 

[ryry_87]

when you've got it out obviously check to see if the carbon(s) have completely gone, if not post a clear pic of the commutator to show how bad it is. check for any charred sections or heavy scoring

 

[singingrainbow]

You will need to get a carbon brush seater stone and while the motor is running with new brushes in it, touch the stone to the commutator a little at a time and the stone will wear down. and it will basicly clean and smooth the commutator, Of course you will want to wear safety gogles for this.
Someone else might be able to explain it better.
Scott

 

[Scaniabebe]

2 Vacuums Not Working in 1 Day, mine & Jamie's....

Jamie, I know how you feel about it. Hopefully, it's just the Carbon Brushes, but as Ryan said, it could be the motor.

I feel your pain. For all who don't know, I was using my Numatic James JPV180A today. I went to unplug, and it had jammed in the socket. Had to get an electricion out to put a new socket in, but, he couldn't even get the plug out. So, at the moment, my James has it's very own Socket! Got to order a new whole new cable for it, now! Annoying, as I use this vac almost everyday in the garage (I also use my HVR200A for around the house), and as I use this vac almost everyday, and the new Cable won't be here until about Monday (at least). It's not gone well at all!

 

[ryry_87]

A comm stick….

http://www.candmdomesticappliances.co.uk/carbon-brush-commutator-stick

 

[ryry_87]

going back to what Scott said, there is an easier way of doing it. once the new carbons are in, rather than comming it in while its running, just get a powerful cylinder, put the hose over the fan inlet to get it spinning and comm it in that way. Its less scary than trying to do it while the motors running lol

 

[jmurray01]

OK, update, I've tried to get to the motor but have hit a problem!

I got the floor head off OK and have taken the two screws out that hold the motor casing on but it won't move more than about a centimeter. It is like there is something else holding it on but I can't see anything else!

Help!

 

[ryry_87]

god its been years since I've had one of those apart, i've got a feeling it should be 4 screws holding the motor casing on? 2 at top and 2 down the bottom. You might have to ask Ric or Benny for help on that

 

[jmurray01]

Nope, only two... Well, that I can see.

I'll email Benny and see if he can help, haven't seen him around on here for a while as it happens.

 

[Scaniabebe]

Try moving the main body of the unit, backwards, or forwards (depending on where it is. As the bag container and handle may be covering the screws!

Oh, and I've found a machine that you could get a motor from! I'll send a few links through!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HOOVER-TU...336?pt=UK_Vacuum_Cleaners&hash=item3a77df1348

 

[Scaniabebe]

Another one, but this one looks slightly different and is Red!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HOOVER-TU...343?pt=UK_Vacuum_Cleaners&hash=item35bebf1c47

 

[jmurray01]

I can't understand what you're trying to say Jason...

 

[singingrainbow]

Jamie, did you check to see if the bag door was covering the screws?
Also, Jason the red hoover is a dirty fan machine and does not have the same motor as Jamie's hoover.
Scott

 

[vintagerepairer]

The clicking noise is a lifted segment from the commutator catching the brushes. So as Ryry suggested, the motor has had it. But as these cleaners rarely burn out, you should fine another one fairly soon and take the motor from it for yours.

 

[jmurray01]

Can't see any screws near the motor cover inside the bag compartment, though I did look!

Yes, that is true Scott, the red one is a Turbopower 1 which obviously doesn't have a compatible motor, least of all because it is dirty fan plus half the wattage!

Out of interest, how do you know about the Turbopower being a dirty fan since you are in America ?

 

[jmurray01]

I see Benny, thanks for explaining!

 

[Scaniabebe]

Dirty Fan? Huh? You lost me?-.-
Still, that Blue Turbopower should be the right one, am I right?