beko1987
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I think the main fail with that dyson vs Bosch is the floor tool. Stick a better one on and I reckon it would do better. Doubt it would win though
Heavily abused Dysons
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gsheen
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Yep I could do that comparison in my shop and make the bosch the Looser very easily. The problem with Utube vids is that its very easy to make the vacuum you want to win win and the vacuum you want to loose, loose badly. Been there done that.
I did that recently with a Miele and made it loose horribly after a customer showed me a Utube vid where the Miele outcleaned the dyson. I love showing customers this and have one of every model of my competition to aid in this.
As for the vacuum bags $ 20.00 for a pack of 5 Thats to pricey for me. All the hospitals here in SA that are worth there salt have massive central systems with UM a cyclone on them. Infact I don't know when last I saw a Hospital with a normal vacuum in it.
I did that recently with a Miele and made it loose horribly after a customer showed me a Utube vid where the Miele outcleaned the dyson. I love showing customers this and have one of every model of my competition to aid in this.
As for the vacuum bags $ 20.00 for a pack of 5 Thats to pricey for me. All the hospitals here in SA that are worth there salt have massive central systems with UM a cyclone on them. Infact I don't know when last I saw a Hospital with a normal vacuum in it.
matt8808
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gsheen
ahhh somebody that talks sense!!
ahhh somebody that talks sense!!
vintagerepairer
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Many UK hospitals
have reduced the amount of vacuuming they do as it was actually thought to be unhygenic due to what could be breeding in the cleaner and the dust bags. Carpets have all but been eradicated, but also the method of vacuuming hard floors was considered liable to unsettle dust in a way that made it airborne, to the extent that dust-mopping floors has been favoured. Hospitals here also prefer paper hand towels over electric dryers, again for the belief of moving around germ-borne air. That is of course excluding Dyson hand dryers which have been able to make a presence in some establishments.
As for that video and as for the comments that the Dyson can be made to look more favourable should one choose to, it has to be remembered that these videos are little more that the results of, say, a survey, where comments and statistics are gathered in such a way as to reflect only the aspects which the commissioner of the survey wishes to convey to the 3rd party. The video here was completely biased in favour of the Bosch, and in normal usage no cleaner would be expected to cope with that kind of debris. Indeed with any cleaner, I would be inclined to sweep the area first.
But this does not mean I am standing up for Dyson either. One only has to review their own official videos to see they too like to show matters from a certain angle. For instance, those cleaners which in tests are mechanically moved back and forth, and cleaners dropped from a height continually. What does this prove? It proves they held their own during rigid factory testing. It does not prove they will hold out in 'normal' use. That, as we all know, is an entirely different way of testing the durability of anything.
have reduced the amount of vacuuming they do as it was actually thought to be unhygenic due to what could be breeding in the cleaner and the dust bags. Carpets have all but been eradicated, but also the method of vacuuming hard floors was considered liable to unsettle dust in a way that made it airborne, to the extent that dust-mopping floors has been favoured. Hospitals here also prefer paper hand towels over electric dryers, again for the belief of moving around germ-borne air. That is of course excluding Dyson hand dryers which have been able to make a presence in some establishments.
As for that video and as for the comments that the Dyson can be made to look more favourable should one choose to, it has to be remembered that these videos are little more that the results of, say, a survey, where comments and statistics are gathered in such a way as to reflect only the aspects which the commissioner of the survey wishes to convey to the 3rd party. The video here was completely biased in favour of the Bosch, and in normal usage no cleaner would be expected to cope with that kind of debris. Indeed with any cleaner, I would be inclined to sweep the area first.
But this does not mean I am standing up for Dyson either. One only has to review their own official videos to see they too like to show matters from a certain angle. For instance, those cleaners which in tests are mechanically moved back and forth, and cleaners dropped from a height continually. What does this prove? It proves they held their own during rigid factory testing. It does not prove they will hold out in 'normal' use. That, as we all know, is an entirely different way of testing the durability of anything.
sebo_fan
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$20-00 is equivalent to roughly £12. For that you get double the amount of SEBO bags for the commercial BS36 series - 10 bags to you, compared to the 5 you quote - and that's taken from a Trader company AFTER VAT has been added. Numatic are even cheaper in some cases £5-95 which is half of U.S $20-00 gets you 10 bags for the Numatic.
Whilst SOME hospitals depend on wet cleaning to get rid of dust, several hospitals and department stores that have vinyl mix floors use a mix of dry polisher machines and some that have the combo suction bags on them to pick up dust. Other departments use Henry vacuums or more expensive commercial tub vacuums with even more elevated costs on dust bags, that aren't as mass available to buy such as Numatic or SEBO.
My point in all of this is, it doesn't really matter that much that dust bags have to be purchased in lieu of a bagless vacuum - after all - lets face it - if Dyson offered a much better built vacuum designed for commercial usage, I bet the sole plate wouldn't be so easy to scratch let alone have obvious external wear parts that wouldn't scuff or shatter that easily.
Matt - have you tried trundling your Hoover TP model up and down the stone flagstones of that church? See how long that lasts.
Whilst SOME hospitals depend on wet cleaning to get rid of dust, several hospitals and department stores that have vinyl mix floors use a mix of dry polisher machines and some that have the combo suction bags on them to pick up dust. Other departments use Henry vacuums or more expensive commercial tub vacuums with even more elevated costs on dust bags, that aren't as mass available to buy such as Numatic or SEBO.
My point in all of this is, it doesn't really matter that much that dust bags have to be purchased in lieu of a bagless vacuum - after all - lets face it - if Dyson offered a much better built vacuum designed for commercial usage, I bet the sole plate wouldn't be so easy to scratch let alone have obvious external wear parts that wouldn't scuff or shatter that easily.
Matt - have you tried trundling your Hoover TP model up and down the stone flagstones of that church? See how long that lasts.
beko1987
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I'd not want to run a TP over those flagstones, wouldn't last a minute! Can't think of much that would really, apart from a kirby, which would probably level the whole area over a period of time, breaking down the raised corners...
The one win about the dyson soleplate is it's flared, so will ride up and over the top of the corners, and as it's got a large surface area just glides and absorbs the impacts for a time.
However, would love to run a TP over the carpet!
The one win about the dyson soleplate is it's flared, so will ride up and over the top of the corners, and as it's got a large surface area just glides and absorbs the impacts for a time.
However, would love to run a TP over the carpet!
