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so i need to get a maid for my house not a full time one, just someone who comes in my house a few times a week and cleans everything, as my parents are incapable of telling the dogs to get down from anywhere, and are even more incapable of cleaning anything in the house, my mother is completely against the idea because she dosnt want strangers in her house, so dose anyone have any positive maid experiences so i can tell my mother to put her mind at ease
 
we have a maid, but we call her the housekeeper and shes full time livein and we have nevere had a problem with her before. The key to a happy maid is to use please and thank you and give her a little extra money sometimes.
 
Well, the thing is, if the cleaner wasn't to bring her own vacuum would you want her using yours? I know from your past experience with that builder that you don't like people using your vacuums!
 
A lot of cleaners will only use their own equipment, including the vacuum, as their insurance covers them on it. If they break their own cleaner, it's no big deal, but if they break a customers cleaner, they'd have to pay for it.

Personally, I wouldn't ever have a cleaner. I've always considered it a complete waste of money and totally lazy. It doesn't take THAT much effort to keep a house clean. Lord knows we managed in a house with a single parent and 4 kids for all those years - we all had to pitch in.

Do you intend to pay for said cleaner? They don't come cheap and if your folks aren't willing to pay for it, then you're a bit screwed really.
 
I beg to differ ...

"It doesn't take THAT much effort to keep a house clean."

Actually, it DOES, particularly if you have high standards.

And for most of us, it's not just the effort, but the TIME.

Unfortunately, I have yet to find a housekeeper who can live up to my standards of cleanliness AND whom I can trust.

And in terms of full-time domestic help, the trick really is in staying out of their way and disappearing while they do their work. Regardless of your title, position, or type of work, no one likes their boss looking over their shoulder most of the time. It's like you're being *tested*.

Like what we see on "Downton Abbey" or in the old "Upstairs, Downstairs" PBS series, the homes best designed for full-time help allow for "servants' quarters", back staircases, etc., to allow the staff to "disappear" and stay largely out of sight. To anyone who's never employed household help (or who has never worked as a domestic), this SOUNDS incredibly elitist, but it really works out to be the most comfortable arrangement for both parties; owners don't want employees constantly underfoot, and employees, frankly, don't like spending their entire workdays under the watchful eyes of their bosses. A servants' hall ... lounge ... or quarters ... is a comfortable and discreet way for both employer and employee to retreat into their own "space".
 
WE've never had any kind of help, but

there is a room upstairs here that WAS for the maid. It was a 20x25 room. It later became a kitchen when the house was turned into an apartment by the former owners. Now, it's back to a spare room. Actually, it's the cats 'apartment! They have their food, litter boxes and a twin bed up there. It will become the HOOVER "gallery" before the summer is over. I'm uncovering nice things in there and am planning to add some nice things, as well. Still no maid, though.
 
Actually, it DOES, particularly if you have high standards

I beg to differ.

I have VERY high standards and I manage perfectly well to keep on top of my work life, social life and housework. I also grew up in a 4 bedroom, 3 story house with 4 children and a single parent and my mother always managed perfectly well to keep the house clean to a high standard.
 
Roomba does a good job in between cleaning visits. I have a longtime friend that is in charge of keeping my home clean. Used to have a yard service, but decided to make working in the yard my hobby and it has been great!

I tell people daily, I can sell clean all day long, but when it comes to my home, I HATE vacuuming and cleaning.
 
well maintaining a house without 3 forever molting dogs, and one without is a completely different story, i am the only one cleaning my house and im getting sick of everyone else in my house messing everything up and then leaving it, without even considering to clean it up, Chris in your house you all pitched it if only it was the same in my home
 
Raising Your Parents

Raising your parents is the worst job you'll ever have. They don't listen and you can't spank them. My mom has Alzheimer's and my dad has had a series of TIAs in addition to an undeveloped mind because he always made mom do everything. They need a housekeeper, but more of a sitter who sorts mail, hides the important stuff for my brother to see, throws away the spoiled food and tries valiantly to clean up after them and boy do they make messes. My folks are a cross between Pa and Ma Kettle and the Beverly Hillbillies so it takes a special person to navigate the terrain and get out alive. Their house was always a disgusting mess and my greatest fear in life is that if I ever go to bed on a mess I'll wake up just like them. We have a lady now who actually looks and acts a bit like Granny Clampett and they don't get away with much as she's tough and pretty hard to buffalo. The key is finding the person they connect with. Sometimes its a younger person they can parent and mentor and other times its a paraprofessional who knows the ins and outs of oldsters. Twice a year I hire a professional cleaning team to attact the whole house and then we try to keep up in between. A fresh insight also helps to see things we as families can sometimes miss.
 
Chris in your house you all pitched it if only it was the sa

Difference was though Michael, that if we didn't, my Mum would've gone ape shit :P.

Doesn't sound easy though Michael and I do understand where you're coming from. The only problem is who is going to pay for a cleaner if your Mum is against the idea? Have you spoken to your Dad about this at all?
 
well ive found one for £10 an hour so i could afford one for a few hours a week at least, then when my parents see how good they are they will pay, but im going to have to try and get one when my mother isn't in because she will quite literally hit the roof if she finds out haha
 
Once a week

We have two cleaning ladies come in once a week.
Simply put, we have a large house, we are both very busy and we can afford it.
As far as vacuums are concerned, they use the Oreck classic for rugs and the 1967 Royal metal hand-vac for the upholstery. (... the best $5.00 NIB purchase I ever made...)
I use the NILFISK once or twice a week to keep the kitty dander down.
THANKS FRED!!
Using the Nilfisk is my treat to myself. I actually find housecleaning fun. However, housecleaning is incompatible with our stressful jobs and cocktail time in the evening.
 
Exactly as NYCWriter said...

Not to mention being extremely time-poor. Our housekeeper was completely invaluable to us. Couldn't have lived without her!

Even as a child I remember our housekeeper, she was always there, a constant. Things would have been very different without her...

Not all of us have the afforded luxury of 'time' to take care of a home to the level we'd like. And to be honest - our housekeeper loved our place as she always said 'we never made a mess of anything!' so obviously her job was made easy too! LOL
 
MAID!!!!

Are you kidding, My folks were not poor, but we sure couldnt afford a maid! LOL My Dads older sister did have a maid, Her name was Lilly Horton, and she spoiled me rotten when I was a kid,Here is a funny true story, in 1969 when the moon landing was going on, My Aunt Mable and Lilly set down to watch, they were talking about how great it was, at this time in my hometown, there was a lot of racial trouble going on, and earlier they were discussing it, My Aunt , who was very much into equal rights, asked Lilly what she thought they would find on the moon...She thought for a few minutes and said, " wouldnt it be funny if it was just full of black people!" Now you have to understand, Lilly was African American, her and my Aunt Mable laughed and hollered for days about that comment, to which my Aunt said, Well if it is, maybe we can send George Wallace!!LOL, They laughed about that for years.
 
No! I have never had a maid/housekeeper and neither have either of my parents! I have never even given it a thought. I don't think I would like a stranger running around our house and getting into everything. I don't have a problem with cleaning, I actually like vacuuming and doing laundry, and everything else gets done as needed, like dusting, cleaning bathrooms, mopping floors, etc.... Dishes usually go directly into the dishwasher after meals, and it is washed usually once a day. I usually go by "the house is clean enough to be healthy, and dirty enough to be comfortable"
 
Isn't that a little bit odd for someone that collects va

I do collect, I've amassed quite a nice vintage collection over the last couple of years. I enjoy looking at them and restoring them. The best part of vacuums is selling them, in fact, I wish there were collectors close to me- we are throwing away about 150 trade in's over the next few weeks because they are taking up way too much space. Using them...nah, I'll leave that to people who like to clean.
 
Sorry

I have to disagree about having a housekeeper. I work all week long and have a large house. No, I do not want to spend the weekend or evenings cleaning the bathrooms and dusting. I consider it along the lines of hiring a professional to do a professional job and an investment in the maintenance of my home. It is just how I choose to spend some money. This way I can vacuum and clean when I want to, not when I have to. I say that because I like the house immaculate. I agree, it is not for everyone, but it is definitely for me.
 
I personally have never had someone else do my work. Two years ago I had someone mow while I was on vacation and it was a disaster and expensive. I used to care for a person that was dying from cancer, the family hired the "home helpers" to come in and clean....I had the cleaning done before they arrived and so they spent time visiting with Sophia and I made breakfast.

In your case, it sounds like your parents won't be open to this. I totally understand that and I think your family needs to honor that as well. Perhaps the family can come in on weekends such as Mother's Day or Fathers Day and do a complete spruce up and spend time with them. Rotate the chores thru the family letting someone come in each week and do the weekly cleaning.

I am like my grandmother, she was almost 98 when she gave up cleaning and cooking...it still gave her joy. I am the same way, I enjoy it, especially mowing and yard work in the summer (as long as it is not hot).
 
While Arlee and I are not filthy pigs, we don't exactly have "high standards." I had a high school English teacher who used to say, "I don't mind a few dust bunnies and cobwebs around the house as long as I have a good book to read," and that's pretty much my philosophy! (*)

At the same time, neither of us wants to have housekeepers coming in and snooping around and eating up all the food in the kitchen and watching TV instead of doing their work. We have had several different ones over the years, and only one of them was really acceptable in terms of results. She was a young teenage girl who was the daughter of the housekeeper of my employer at the time.

I am, most of the time, the only one who does housework. Arlee is a real "princess." His favorite line is, "You love vacuuming so much, why don't you do it more often?" He does wash the dishes which is great because I hate the chore. But clean the cat box? HAHAHAHAHAHA forget it! Turds would be spilling over the sides before he would deign to clean it out!

(*) funny story about that teacher. Her name was Mrs. Dixon. She and her husband lived in an old, old house that, yes, was chock-full of cobwebs and dust bunnies (hell, there were dust elephants in that place!!), and stacks and stacks and stacks of books. They were everywhere. Well, one evening Mrs. Dixon was seated in her parlor reading one of her favorite books when all of a sudden there was a creaking, groaning sound in the ceiling. Before she knew it, her husband Jasper came roaring down through the ceiling, along with the bathtub full of water that he was bathing in. The old wooden floor was rotten and finally gave way!
 
If you want one, need one and can afford one..

go right ahead. I don't need, want, nor can afford a 'cleaner'. I enjoy doing it myself. Sometimes I have to pace myself better. This old place has 11 rooms. Thankfully, I have an arsenal of cleaning equipment.
My sister has a cleaning person who comes in. She gives her strict instructions on what to clean, what NOT to, etc.. One day, she discovered the cleaner drinking soda out of WATERFORD CRYSTAL. They had a little talk about that. When I visit, I make sure her HOOVER has the correct bags, etc. She bought a Bissell steamer. She thought it was made by HOOVER. I told her,"That's it..no kidney for you".
 
Help with cleaning

KirbyLover, I fully understand where you are 'coming from' on this....

Unfortunately, no 'professional' or 'semi-professional' cleaner will set foot in your house without the householder's prior consent. You will be best off making a private arrangement with a friend (or friend's sister or brother) to give you a hand with the cleaning up. This will be a much cheaper option, particularly if you can make it a reciprocal arrangement. Try to find someone who likes dogs!! It will also avoid the 'stranger in the house' problem if it is someone your parents (vaguely) know... This MAY also 'shame' them into being a little tidier in their ways!

From experience, I don't share your confidence that your parents will appreciate the difference and 'change their ways'. As R2D2 said, trying to raise your parents can be a truly thankless task. If they are comfortable living in what you consider to be squalor, you are unlikely to make any lasting change. I'm afraid you are probably stuck with it until you can get a place of your own, where you can set your own standards. I know I was!

I truly wish you the very best of luck

Dave T
 
My dad is not married and owns 3 businesses so cleaning the house really isn't something that he has the time for. We have always had a housekeeper come every 2 days and do the cleaning. It's nice because you never come home to a dirty house and it always has a fresh smell. I can't imagine what our house would be like if we didn't have one.

I can understand that some people may have the time and enjoy cleaning though. Every once and a while I'll give the house a good cleaning, even when it doesn't need it. Just because you have a housekeeper doesn't mean you can't clean the house too.
 
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<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva; font-size: medium;">NYC Writer: I completely agree with your opinion, as I do with Fred's. I have both been, at times, an employer of cleaning help AND an owner of a cleaning business. When I cleaned for a living, I enjoyed much more when the "boss" was not underfoot. All my clients were appreciative, though only a few had actually done much cleaning of their own houses, ever. </span>


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<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva; font-size: medium;">It is hard work cleaning for a living. Good help does not sit around (except on agreed breaks) eating the boss's food and generally making themselves at home, unless they are live-ins, or have a personal rapport with the family. I would've never DREAMED of doing that on a job. I also charged a professional rate AND made it clear in pre-assignment interviews with clients why I charged what I did, and what they could except from my work. I heard HORROR stories of what previous cleaning help had done to cleaning equipment, furniture and floor coverings. The most hideous thing I witnessed was the damage done by a previous cleaning woman who had taken straight bleach to a teak dining room table. She was the same one who had murdered the owner's previous Dial-a-Matic. </span>


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<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva; font-size: medium;">Some people should not clean for a living.  </span>
 
Just to clarify, the people we've had in for house cleaning were not members of a professional cleaning service but were referrals by friends or "friends of friends." One guy in particular was a real case. Every time after he was here for "cleaning, we noticed a distinctive diminishing of stuff in the refrigerator. We also figured out that he liked to snoop around in closets, dresser drawers, etc. The final straw was when we came back from a day of shopping and errands and found him asleep on the couch with the TV on....... "Your services will no longer be required."
 
I used to own a small housecleaning business, with myself and four members of staff doing the work. Our approach was pretty much the same as what Portable detailed a couple of posts up. We charged a professional rate, and made sure we did a professional job. We had a meeting with every new client before taking on the work, which involved a detailed walk-through of the entire house. This allowed us to tailor the service to the customer's needs, manage expectations (only when everyone is singing from the same hymn sheet will both sides be happy with the arrangement), and address any questions or concerns. Plus we could discuss pricing in person, having seen exactly what we were getting into. Never, ever would we give prices over the phone or on our website.

The vast majority of our clients were executives or self employed working 60+ hours a week. I wouldn't call them lazy for not wanting to come home at 9 PM and start cleaning a six bedroom house. We also had some elderly and disabled customers, who needed a little extra help with certain tasks. For them, it made all the difference between keeping on top of things and maintaining their independence, versus not coping fully and allowing things to go to rack and ruin. Again, not lazy.

Now the only ones I didn't have any time for were the desperate housewives who only wanted a cleaner for the sake of having one. Wildly unrealistic expectations, and usually under the false impression that they could set our prices for us. Also the most likely to talk down to our staff, because he or she was "just the cleaner". We got to be quite good at weeding these ones out from the start, and declining their business with the polite excuse of being fully booked.

Personally, I always preferred to clean when I had the house to myself. No interruptions, and no fear of disturbing the client or making them feel as though they had to keep out of my way. Sometimes though it was unavoidable, for example when they couldn't get into the office and had to work from home. One thing I would never do, however, is snoop amongst their belongings or help myself to the contents of their fridge. That's just creepy, and I'd hate to be on the receiving end of it.

If you do employ a cleaner, I'd say the most important quality to look for is someone who actually enjoys cleaning. You don't want someone in your house who resents doing other people's dirty work, because that's basically what the job is all about. Make sure they have full insurance, and if possible, ask to speak to some of their other clients. A good cleaner will advertise very little (other than when first starting up business), because most of their work comes in through word of mouth recommendation.

These days I'm in a completely different job, working 12 hour night shifts, but I still do my own cleaning. This does eat into my free time a little, as I like the place to be absolutely spotless at all times. Given the hours I work I wouldn't feel at all guilty for hiring a cleaner if that's what I wanted to do, the only thing stopping me is the fact I get satisfaction out of doing it myself.
 
I Agree

Hiring right is the key to success. I have had a housekeeper for going on 40 years (I still can't believe that.) During those years there has been normal turnover. Getting a good referral is the key to success since a housekeeper is a most personal service. In between housekeepers, I have gone months without one during the search. Well worth it. During those years I amazingly have not been disappointed.
 
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