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Hi Josh - I have seen some of your vids on Youtube - as Joshyvacboy - I often see your mum Heidi selling your old vacs on Ebay too lol


Keep up the good work on your vids, always very informative - I liked the one you did on the Hoover Dust manager and your likes and dislikes of it.
 
You know my friend with the DC41 animal, well he no longer owns it.
He now has a DC39 multi floor, and he likes it better. He has had a Henry (non eco with 2 rocker switches I believe strongly) before the DC41
he says it has stronger suction, and I said the capacity is small.
He replied: It has a small bin but the dust shrinks or gets compacted because of the cyclone assembly
I asked how are you going to pick up the strings and threads off the carpets if you wanted spinning brushes?
He said that the floor tool has strong suction and some brushes under the tool and that gets up the threads and strings.
I think the DC04 let some hair go on the filter, and the DC14 did more too, but the new sieve shrouds are okay for acting as a sieve.
 
HiLo - do you remember what I said about the cyclones clogging up on the Turbopower cylinder model I had - well I reckon you might have the same problem on your Jazz, as they are the same cleaner. There is a design problem with the tips of the cones - they get clogged and then all the dirt gets drawn into the pre-motor filter.
 
Ah thanks that's really nice to say. Thank you By the way on the one who actually sells them lol I might do that like an disk like thing on my AEG precision Thanks for being so nice Some people on here are A little bit offensive Thanks Josh
 
I will have to open up the Cyclone tomorrow, easy to do, it is a shame as it is a good cleaner & works very well when the suction is able to pass through. Did you have to unscrew a section on your Turbo Power though Steve?
 
I cant remember about screws - may possibly have been some, but I dismantled the whole assembly and saw that there was only very small clearance between the tops of the cones and the housing itself, meaning the cones exits got blocked with fluff and hairs. This is a design flaw, and I ended up sawing off the tops of all the cones to give more space for them to discharge into in the dust chamber below them. Not a good vac I'm afraid and its probably why they ended up reduced to £42 in Tesco. I wasn't impressed with the suction either and the motor was very noisy.
 
I will agree the motor is noisy, suction was good at first but then slowly started going, washed the filter, it fell to bits had to get new ones as mentioned before. It has worked a bit better since but dust is now building up on the filter again.

Bagged Vacuums all the way I say.
 
Yes Hilo - it sounds like the cyclones are clogged and all the dirt is just going straight into the pre-motor filter. Very early Dyson DC07 models suffered from this problem too. Some Vax Air3 models also seem to suffer from it - again down to the exits from the tips of the cyclones getting clogged up with fluff and hairs. All down to the design I'm afraid, and some multi-cyclonics are better than others. The original Vax Mach Air models are OK, as they have plenty of space at the exits from the cyclones, so don't clog up - but they can suffer from the rubber gaiter at the bottom of the dust tube not seating properly against the base of the bin, and this will then cause them to suck up the dirt in reverse from the base of the bin and clog the pre-motor filter.
 
No Filter?

I am so sorry to sound so dumb but does this new Dyson have no filter at all? From what I understand there is no pre-motor filter is this correct? Now is there an after motor filter? I just can't see how there is absolutely no filter what so ever. Even if a vacuum has so many cyclones there are still minute particles in the air that would get through. Could someone enlighten me on this? Again sorry to sound, well dumb. :)
 
Yeah it's got one at the back HEPA filter But it hasn't got prefilter like the sock in the Dyson DC 39
 
All very good in theory - but its gonna be the price that's prohibitive - I'd imagine it will retail at about the £350 - £400 mark in the UK.


You will still need to keep the bin internal shroud clean though (The sieve part) as this is where its gonna get clogged, and people don't always brush it clean when emptying the bin.
 
I'm wondering why the Australians got the DC54 before the UK market got it - seeing as It was probably designed here anyway
 
Gave the Jazz Cyclone System a clean, opened up the top area & most of the cyclones were clogged with Dust, Hair, Dirt etc. then steamed it & my hands were covered in Dust which only made me wheeze.

I think I might send it back, because it is pretty poor now. At first it was a brilliant vacuum, but despite cleaning it I gave it a run around this afternoon & opened up the filter again to already find a small coating of dust on the so called HEPA filter.

I am not impressed now, the fact that I opened up, spent a while cleaning it & now it's near enough gone back to how it was before, so there wasn't much point. And like your Turbo Power Steve, the Cyclones were blocked, I just needed to unscrew the 2 parts from eachother to notice it.
 
HiLo - the problem is that where the small tips of the cones discharge into the collection chamber, there is just not enough room for them to discharge the hairs and fluff without it clogging them up again. Its a very bad design, but on the Turbopower cyclonic upright, its designed differently and the cyclones are fine - they don't get clogged. Its only the Turbopower cylinder and the Jazz cylinder which has the problem. No matter how often you dismantle the cyclone assembly - it will keep on getting blocked, and will always result in the pre-motor filter getting clogged very quickly, as the cyclones are failing to discharge the fine dust as they should.
 

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